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Did Lightning Greaves get banned while I wasn't watching?

This is *not* going to happen every game, but running Sol Ring and Lightning Greaves is pretty much just good deckbuilding.

T1 - Plains(or any other mana source) Sol Ring, Lightning Greaves
T2 - Bird, equip, swing, fetch your land, play a land. Make a 1 mana play
T3 - Bird again, equip, swing, fetch.

Again, this is the cieling of what can be done, but if you have ways to eat your own lands (like Kjeldoran Outpost, Dust Bowl etc. this gets very sick. So that's the tension the developers had when designing the card. It may have been nerfed a little too hard, but if it were much better it would have to be a green card or just break the pie.

you've certainly got a fair point, but those stars need to align pretty well... and honestly, i almost never see greaves these days. there has been a HUGE influx of board wipes and spot removal, so a lot of players just kinda stopped running it because their crap gets bounced, wiped, or killed in response to the equip.

its still a valid point, any haste enabler with this does increase the potential for sure

uyo, silent prophet

i might build her with this in mind just for funsies finally...

i see a ton of people on facebook touting this as omg broken best card and frankly i'm just not seeing it.

its good, probably even borderline great, but in most cases its just going to be a gaea's cradle, or nykthos, or a cabal coffers, and that's fine, that's fantastic even, but its not really broken.

you're not really going to be cracking it as a fetch, and you're going to be desperate if you're using it as a strip mine, sometimes it might animate into a creature, or maybe its a kessig wolf's run, or a maze of ith... but that's hardly broken, what other lands are you running into on average that have activated abilities worth utilizing? in most games you really aren't seeing that many

in a few years that might change as the volume of good lands increases - especially since they keep printing new things with edh in mind. but for now... i feel its just mostly good and doesn't necessarily belong in every single deck.

because this is mtg:s, i said BROKEN. i did not say bad. there's a tremendous difference in distinction here.

i like it, but i wish it were a knight instead of a soldier to have a little more synergy with all the knights that just came out

i must build something that does nothing but copy expropriate, repeatedly.

solid inclusions, solid reprints, they might not be worth a ton but they're very playable

for those of you jumping all over my ass about dismantling wave...

i said its cost was high, not bad.

i do understand its uncounterable (barring stifle effects of which there have been a significant increase), but outside of navi 8 mana is a lot to use on this effect - especially when it pops your toys too. outside of the navi deck, i don't expect to see it often. i feel that's a fair assessment and in no way means its a bad card. niche playable is fine.

that's cute. i don't think it'll see serious play, but it'll pop up from time to time at casual tables

this + sylvan/worldly/vampric tutor and your opponent is pretty ****ed.

i'm just not a fan of building around cycling, but i see where they're kind of useful. i think the the cycling cost on dismantling wave is needlessly high given all the other ways white in particular can nuke all artifacts, enchantments, or both.

i love the art, and the more i think about it the more i like what they do. there are tons of ways to interact with +1/+1 counters and -1/-1 counters in these colors so i see it as a pretty decent dig for combo engine. plus pink hair.

i wish white wasn't part of the pair, but i'm not a fan of 3 color partners/decks in general so that's why

it does protect me during my turn, but it also makes my opponents much harder to control, i'm not entirely sure how i feel about it. but having sorceries and creatures popping off at the end of my opponents turns doesn't benefit any deck much. it makes their choices easier to make and allows them to react more so... its cute on paper but i don't think it'll be that great in practice

i like the arts, but it feels like they don't really do anything.

i'd be interested to see what archetypes end up supporting them.

i think i want to try this out in yuriko

i don't really like him though i'm interested to see how decks abuse him. swarmability is definitely there.