Its slow, its costly, you have to jump through hoops to really make it be anything more than delayed and fragile removal.
You'll never be able to get someone to lose on its conditions. As a commander its tax and slowness make it impractical to swing with repeatedly. In standard its slow and crap without running several in the deck. Its unplayable anywhere but the kitchen table. Even there itll be a card someone loves and tries to make work every single time, but never admits it doesnt.
i guess you can jump through hoops and idk, run sunforger and sundial of the infinite and hope to get it all into play with enough mana to pull it off AND have enough creatures on board to be lethal by making them survive into next turn... but it'll almost never happen so uh... have fun?
cloudstone curio + earthcraft and enoughcreatures in the yard is infinite tokens, and mana, and draw
nim deathmantle + phyrexian altar/ashnod's altar and enough duders in the yard thats also infinite duders, mana, and draw in the case of phyrexian altar
demon of dark schemes + earthcraft/phyrexian altar + enough dudes in the graveyard, thats infinite tokens and mana and draw too (you'll need another sac outlet without the altar)
dread return seems like a given
have you considered more cards with dredge?
if they're there, my apologies, your formatting is incredibly difficult to process
not a big fan of then new trostani at all. it just feels... boring. its strong yeah i guess but, and this more from a commander standpoint, it doesn't make me want to build around it. its just another anthem in the 99, and honestly one that would be cut pretty quick when something better comes along.
And the quest for a more interesting r/w commander continues! Join us next set for more disappointment as we continue to not explore any aspect of this color pair outside of the red zone!
a lot of people complain every game the is the same. my feeling is the opposite. its always am i going to stop it this time, how can i stop it, how are they going to pull it off, how difficult can i make it to pull off, how can i pull off my own while stopping theirs. that all, combined with having to find ways to protect your own or stop someone elses it forces you to think about your deck in a different light and modify it accordingly. it ends up being a MUCH more interactive game where you're not just goldfishing but instead actively trying to push your own boardstate while stopping someone elses. its just that the wins are more spectacular and seemingly out of nowhere than just turn dudes sideways
stax
slow and grindy? sure! but again, once someone pops up with a stax deck thats effective it forces you to deal with it or play the most miserable game imaginable, and even then you're trying to figure out how to beat it rather than just complaining that you can't do anything
Bonkers. Competitive cost. Triggers on cast no resolution. Meaningful creature type.
Its tempting to jam this in decks that arent just mono-g elves. Speaking from an edh perspective its not uncommon to poop out a creature every single turn, mix in elves and its play deck
this is EXACTLY what i've wanted in b/g. like, absolutely exactly what i've wanted for YEARS. i'm so building this for edh and i'm going to love every god damned second of it.
neat i guess. idk. i wouldn't run it in the majority of white edh decks. there are so many better options. like swords, or path. maybe in monowhite i guess?
Its slow, its costly, you have to jump through hoops to really make it be anything more than delayed and fragile removal.
You'll never be able to get someone to lose on its conditions. As a commander its tax and slowness make it impractical to swing with repeatedly. In standard its slow and crap without running several in the deck. Its unplayable anywhere but the kitchen table. Even there itll be a card someone loves and tries to make work every single time, but never admits it doesnt.
A+ disappointment.
i guess you can jump through hoops and idk, run sunforger and sundial of the infinite and hope to get it all into play with enough mana to pull it off AND have enough creatures on board to be lethal by making them survive into next turn... but it'll almost never happen so uh... have fun?
nim deathmantle + phyrexian altar/ashnod's altar and enough duders in the yard thats also infinite duders, mana, and draw in the case of phyrexian altar
demon of dark schemes + earthcraft/phyrexian altar + enough dudes in the graveyard, thats infinite tokens and mana and draw too (you'll need another sac outlet without the altar)
dread return seems like a given
have you considered more cards with dredge?
if they're there, my apologies, your formatting is incredibly difficult to process
a lot of people complain every game the is the same. my feeling is the opposite. its always am i going to stop it this time, how can i stop it, how are they going to pull it off, how difficult can i make it to pull off, how can i pull off my own while stopping theirs. that all, combined with having to find ways to protect your own or stop someone elses it forces you to think about your deck in a different light and modify it accordingly. it ends up being a MUCH more interactive game where you're not just goldfishing but instead actively trying to push your own boardstate while stopping someone elses. its just that the wins are more spectacular and seemingly out of nowhere than just turn dudes sideways
stax
slow and grindy? sure! but again, once someone pops up with a stax deck thats effective it forces you to deal with it or play the most miserable game imaginable, and even then you're trying to figure out how to beat it rather than just complaining that you can't do anything
Glad to see my second favorite walker finally got a good card.
I need about 9.
Bonkers. Competitive cost. Triggers on cast no resolution. Meaningful creature type.
Its tempting to jam this in decks that arent just mono-g elves. Speaking from an edh perspective its not uncommon to poop out a creature every single turn, mix in elves and its play deck