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have we considered just being dicks with stuff like winter orb and tectonic break while using something like goblins or elves to keep pressure up and continue our own plans?
RG needs all the help it can gets in EDH, winter orb is a good call. Dunno about land destruction but ruination usually hurts lots of players significantly.
have we considered just being dicks with stuff like winter orb and tectonic break while using something like goblins or elves to keep pressure up and continue our own plans?
...for 9.... and it dies to almost anything, while being chumped all day every day.
look i'm not saying its bad. i'm just saying its... average.
it'll be quirky and fun with stuff like rancor slapped on it, but its by no means ridiculous or broken
...are we really going here?
1) For 9 it doesn't die to almost anything. Do to cost and body and monocolor, it dies to LESS things.
2) Getting chumped, really? We are talking about a legendary in the color with well over dozens of just mono-colored cards to give it some form of evasion. Doesn't even need to be trample. Slap Treetop Bracers or even heck a Trailblazer if you want to go really old school and you can knock someones lights out in one punch.
3) You and and me know this is above average for a green legendary for what it does AND at uncommon no less. Show me the next uncommon that reaches this same sort of power by itself.
4)It is ridiculous that it can become a 20/20 by itself for such a frankly cheap cost in a color that loves ramping and making mana.
yeah. we are going there.
you're jumping through hoops to make it do what you want.
no haste, no shroud, no hexproof, no flying, no built in trample. the turn this thing comes down you have to have things set up to not only protect it but give it these things or else it's going to be blocked by that 1/1 token and do nothing. there's no surprise factor here. its just a big dumb fatty that gets bigger and dumber and dies to... anything that isn't lightning bolt. its a craw wurm that gets bigger, at a fair mana cost.
it'll be okay in limited if you can build your entire deck around it, it might be okay in constructed but probably not because spot removal is a thing. its mediocre as a commmander for a staggering number of reasons, and unplayable anywhere else.
you like it, i get it. cool.
i didn't say it was a bad card. i said it was an average card. the hype is overrated. it'll be forgotten in a week.
...for 9.... and it dies to almost anything, while being chumped all day every day.
look i'm not saying its bad. i'm just saying its... average.
it'll be quirky and fun with stuff like rancor slapped on it, but its by no means ridiculous or broken
speaking from an edh perspective, any deck where i'm running coffers is also running this.
wah wah wah but coffers was an uncommon! except it shouldn't have been in the first place.
i'd rather have this AND coffers than just coffers.
the you control clause kinda kills it for me too, well along with the art.
that its 4 mana, does nothing on its own, and has to be an instant or sorcery you control... it doesn't feel like a mythic to me. its got so many limiting factors it feels more like a rare. not even a good one at that.
that said... i kinda wanna build it for edh and just be obnoxious with extra turn abuse
yeah but then you can drop kessig after you do the real damage to finish people off.
ruination and friends can set the table so far behind that they'll never catch up
yeah. we are going there.
you're jumping through hoops to make it do what you want.
no haste, no shroud, no hexproof, no flying, no built in trample. the turn this thing comes down you have to have things set up to not only protect it but give it these things or else it's going to be blocked by that 1/1 token and do nothing. there's no surprise factor here. its just a big dumb fatty that gets bigger and dumber and dies to... anything that isn't lightning bolt. its a craw wurm that gets bigger, at a fair mana cost.
it'll be okay in limited if you can build your entire deck around it, it might be okay in constructed but probably not because spot removal is a thing. its mediocre as a commmander for a staggering number of reasons, and unplayable anywhere else.
you like it, i get it. cool.
i didn't say it was a bad card. i said it was an average card. the hype is overrated. it'll be forgotten in a week.
...for 9.... and it dies to almost anything, while being chumped all day every day.
look i'm not saying its bad. i'm just saying its... average.
it'll be quirky and fun with stuff like rancor slapped on it, but its by no means ridiculous or broken
is it almost as good as coffers? you betchya
speaking from an edh perspective, any deck where i'm running coffers is also running this.
wah wah wah but coffers was an uncommon! except it shouldn't have been in the first place.
i'd rather have this AND coffers than just coffers.
broodmate dragon this is not.
that its 4 mana, does nothing on its own, and has to be an instant or sorcery you control... it doesn't feel like a mythic to me. its got so many limiting factors it feels more like a rare. not even a good one at that.
that said... i kinda wanna build it for edh and just be obnoxious with extra turn abuse
kind of like the ability, not sure if it does what i really want to be doing in edh but it might work
its a decent inclusion... its just kinda... not good any more.