it's a sphinx, that's been made sacred, and specific to the plane of mirrodin also been compleated. it shouldn't get the phyrxian update because it would then mean every consecrated sphinx everywhere is a phyrexian one.
Well, with the same argument we could say that "Nested Ghoul" it's a perfectly generic name that could fit in many places of the multiverse, but, guess what? It is phyrexian, so yeah, you must either sacrifice flavor (no Nested Ghouls in Innistrad or whatever place you like) or gameplay possibilities (adding simply the word "phyrexian" to the line doesn't substract absolutely nothing in terms of gameplay, au contraire, it opens new rooms for new potential synergies between cards). That's why I said that WotC from two fails should had choosen the lesser evil, which is in this case, making the Sphinx phyrexian for gameplay reasons and would be still be a good compromise for the maniacal vorthosian purists since the Amonkhet Sphinx will always have forever only the word "Sphinx" in her printed creature line.
it's a sphinx, that's been made sacred, and specific to the plane of mirrodin also been compleated.
And that is not and will never be phyrexian. What a flavor win, right? It's incredible how some vorthosian purists have this cognitive dissonance of not accepting that Amonkhet Sphinx could maybe be phyrexian, but have absolutely no problem to have the Jin-Gitaxias masterpiece as not phyrexian at all. From a flavor viewpoint it's a total failure in exactly both cases (I would argue that flavorwise the current solution it's even worse, because if it's still possible that maybe there's a chance for the Amonkhet Sphinx to be phyrexian, but in the other hand it's for sure 100% wrong with no flavor excuses whatsoever that the mirrodian sphinx shouldn't be phyrexianized).
pretty simple. get over it.
No, sorry but I won't accept it and neither get over it. Thank god in EDH rule zero is a thing and most people have more sense into them than whoever incompetent at wotc made this phyrexian update. All shall be one!
while true on nested ghoul, and some other cards, what you aren't considering is that this is a trading card game where some cards are going to be in demand more than others.
con sphinx is highly played. limiting it to just masters style sets, and phyrexian oriented sets, actually scums you - the player.
you need to accept that some decisions are actually made for your benefit, and this is one of them. there is absolutely no reason that a sphinx couldn't be consecrated on any other plane, but changing its type to phyrexian just because the first (and so far only) appearance is on new phyrexia? that's absolutely stupid. i get that you don't like it, but there's more at play here than just slapping the creature type on everything that appeared on phyrexian/new phyrexia.
you keep bringing up the amonkhet sphinx but here's the thing, there has been zero link between phyrexia and amonkhet. that is a big stretch right now, on top of that a big part of amonkhet's lore would indeed link directly to making a sphinx sacred - ie consecrated. they do not have to be mutually exclusive with phyrexian. i'm not sure you're seeing how easily not linking that creature type to it lends it to being reprinted anywhere it fits without having to make leaps in story. if you make it phyrexian, any plane it appears on now has direct ties to phyrexia that you have to explain.
in this case its tied to the card's playability - and its generic naming. they're not exclusive here but inclusive. this happens sometimes with justifiable reason. see m10.
because no other sphinxes anywhere can be consecrated?
it's a sphinx, that's been made sacred, and specific to the plane of mirrodin also been compleated. it shouldn't get the phyrxian update because it would then mean every consecrated sphinx everywhere is a phyrexian one. that is extremely limiting, and ridiculous. by not making consecrated sphinx a phyrexian now you can reprint it on a plane like innistrad as a symbol of the church or just about anywhere else really.
There is no magical christmasland where youre drawing 3 cards per turn cycle off it because your opponents are intentionally swinging into it in edh. Your opponents know you get a card, and they might not.
Its more likely to be ignored until the draws are irrelevant. Sure that acts as a bit of a deterrent but not a major one. Anything aggressive will be able to remove this thing or just smash over it, and anything else will just sit back until their machine is created
Other formats? Idk, that fat ass to cmc ratio is nice but the equal draw power can backfire pretty hard
Its a mediocre rare that a lot of people are going to spend weeks defending and then never play anywhere
You do realize the point of the list isn’t for prices decreases and more supply right? You’re complaining about a great mountain reprint but not the yavimaya scion or bartered cow you can get?
You do realize it was one example of a wasted slot in a sea of many wasted slots right? That theres no need to list every single card thats just a crappy inclusion here. There a ton of cards included here that see zero play, have almost no value, or have already been printed into the ground.
If the purpose is to entice players into set boosters, and get reprints into their hands, actually push that angle.
The way it is now is a lotto ticket inside a lotto ticket that ends up having minimal impact on secondary market value and has quickly lost its appeal given how many terrible cards you can open.
Not everything has to be an ulamog, but itd be nice to have more possibilities and not get absolute trash.
This is also a guy who doesnt like tutors, denial strategies, or land destruction... so its not likely to happen
I think he should actually step back from being on the rules committee at this point because a lot of his views clash with what the format has actually become.
Edit: and because thatll rankle someones ass let me clarify: when you arent a fan of so many legitimate strategies, when they dont fit your concept of what the format is or should be, despite what that format has become, it calls into question your ability to identify and deal with legitimately problematic cards.
Goyf did not need to appear here. Remember when this card was pushing $150 and saw abundant play? It just had yet another printing in tsr, and sees less and less play all the time.
Why is mountain here at all?
Theres some good includes, but on the whole... throw us some ******* bones. Theres no reason not to add things like mana vault, or sensei's divining top, or ancient tomb, things that NEED reprints and just arent getting them.
Updates like this to the list are really just not utilizing it properly and scum the players
For **** sake one of my kaldheim packs had a hidden agenda from conspiracy. A card unplayable anywhere.
No gix, no ashnod, im disappointed. However foil titania makes up for it.
There are a lot of interesting cards here but im having difficulty justifying purchase beyond FeTcHlAnDs.
Ill wait and see what impacts what.
240+ for a box is just too high to gamble when the majority feels like its geared more toward edh than modern. I guess theres all that tron hate? Anyway, it means i only need 1 copy if at all and the rest rot in a box.
Im not saying there arent good cards thatll impact modern, im just saying it feels like there are far more that wont.
while i think it is a nice card, i dont get the design logic with the 7 cmc
so they give a common card an upside with (either a body or they change evoke for affinity) but than increase the cmc by 2 to work against that upgrade... what justifies it being a rare now ?
could have easy been and UC, if wou wanna make it rare, why not keep it at 5 mana ?
Did you miss that this also has a body?
A body with flying, that can attack and block. It can also be blinked. Most times youre getting a 2/2 flyer for U and drawing 2. It doesnt really need to cost less.
while true on nested ghoul, and some other cards, what you aren't considering is that this is a trading card game where some cards are going to be in demand more than others.
con sphinx is highly played. limiting it to just masters style sets, and phyrexian oriented sets, actually scums you - the player.
you need to accept that some decisions are actually made for your benefit, and this is one of them. there is absolutely no reason that a sphinx couldn't be consecrated on any other plane, but changing its type to phyrexian just because the first (and so far only) appearance is on new phyrexia? that's absolutely stupid. i get that you don't like it, but there's more at play here than just slapping the creature type on everything that appeared on phyrexian/new phyrexia.
you keep bringing up the amonkhet sphinx but here's the thing, there has been zero link between phyrexia and amonkhet. that is a big stretch right now, on top of that a big part of amonkhet's lore would indeed link directly to making a sphinx sacred - ie consecrated. they do not have to be mutually exclusive with phyrexian. i'm not sure you're seeing how easily not linking that creature type to it lends it to being reprinted anywhere it fits without having to make leaps in story. if you make it phyrexian, any plane it appears on now has direct ties to phyrexia that you have to explain.
in this case its tied to the card's playability - and its generic naming. they're not exclusive here but inclusive. this happens sometimes with justifiable reason. see m10.
it's a sphinx, that's been made sacred, and specific to the plane of mirrodin also been compleated. it shouldn't get the phyrxian update because it would then mean every consecrated sphinx everywhere is a phyrexian one. that is extremely limiting, and ridiculous. by not making consecrated sphinx a phyrexian now you can reprint it on a plane like innistrad as a symbol of the church or just about anywhere else really.
pretty simple. get over it.
There is no magical christmasland where youre drawing 3 cards per turn cycle off it because your opponents are intentionally swinging into it in edh. Your opponents know you get a card, and they might not.
Its more likely to be ignored until the draws are irrelevant. Sure that acts as a bit of a deterrent but not a major one. Anything aggressive will be able to remove this thing or just smash over it, and anything else will just sit back until their machine is created
Other formats? Idk, that fat ass to cmc ratio is nice but the equal draw power can backfire pretty hard
Its a mediocre rare that a lot of people are going to spend weeks defending and then never play anywhere
You do realize it was one example of a wasted slot in a sea of many wasted slots right? That theres no need to list every single card thats just a crappy inclusion here. There a ton of cards included here that see zero play, have almost no value, or have already been printed into the ground.
If the purpose is to entice players into set boosters, and get reprints into their hands, actually push that angle.
The way it is now is a lotto ticket inside a lotto ticket that ends up having minimal impact on secondary market value and has quickly lost its appeal given how many terrible cards you can open.
Not everything has to be an ulamog, but itd be nice to have more possibilities and not get absolute trash.
I think he should actually step back from being on the rules committee at this point because a lot of his views clash with what the format has actually become.
Edit: and because thatll rankle someones ass let me clarify: when you arent a fan of so many legitimate strategies, when they dont fit your concept of what the format is or should be, despite what that format has become, it calls into question your ability to identify and deal with legitimately problematic cards.
still hate this concept, but now with a show no one cares about any more.
Theyre under 3 bucks while we have an abundance of in demand uncommons soaring in price that just arent being reprint.
This is the perfect opportunity to get more onto the market without obliterating price, but they just dont do it.
Its hard to give a damn about the list when you could open a 3 dollar mountain. That also works against any excitement in set boosters.
Saying a sub 3 dollar card will always be in demand really just ignores the entire point being made.
Why is mountain here at all?
Theres some good includes, but on the whole... throw us some ******* bones. Theres no reason not to add things like mana vault, or sensei's divining top, or ancient tomb, things that NEED reprints and just arent getting them.
Updates like this to the list are really just not utilizing it properly and scum the players
For **** sake one of my kaldheim packs had a hidden agenda from conspiracy. A card unplayable anywhere.
That was kind of a huge plot point
There are a lot of interesting cards here but im having difficulty justifying purchase beyond FeTcHlAnDs.
Ill wait and see what impacts what.
240+ for a box is just too high to gamble when the majority feels like its geared more toward edh than modern. I guess theres all that tron hate? Anyway, it means i only need 1 copy if at all and the rest rot in a box.
Im not saying there arent good cards thatll impact modern, im just saying it feels like there are far more that wont.
i mean... its pretty close
without the restriction its insanely over powered and would make even the smallest amount of lifegain go wildly out of control.
if both of those things are true, then it just shouldn't have been printed at rare, or at all really. another turd of a rare.
Mox tantalite already sees no play. This wont either.
Did you miss that this also has a body?
A body with flying, that can attack and block. It can also be blinked. Most times youre getting a 2/2 flyer for U and drawing 2. It doesnt really need to cost less.