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  • posted a message on Card Æsthetics Evaluation Thread
    Quote from Cythare »
    I've gone out of the way to remove textless cards from my cube entirely, for the same reason as I've worked to avoid non-English cards (still one short on that one though!). Even if most people I would cube with are enfranchised, occasionally I'll have people join that don't otherwise play any more. They're generally fine with reading up on/having new mechanics explained to them, but anything I can do to minimize people asking questions during draft (and thereby revealing to everyone what's in the pack) generally improves the play experience, both for them for not having to feel awkward asking and for everyone else for maintaining the integrity of the draft. If people want to chat about packs because it's a casual event, that's fine, but if they feel they have to ask because they don't know/remember what something does, then that's less great.


    I agree completely. I have no completely textless cards in my cube and very few non-English cards left that I want to replace. I do have a few non-English cards that I don't want to replace, though, that I feel are worth the exception.

    Japanese Foil Buy-A-Box Birds of Paradise
    Japanese Foil Mercadian Masques Counterspell
    Japanese FBB Lightning Bolt
    Korean Foil M12 Llanowar Elves

    These cards are just so iconic that most people, even those that aren't so enfranchised, would know what they are and what they do. Plus they look sweet! I love my Korean Llanowar.

    We also have a Spanish Foil Meloku. The text reads that it makes 2/2s. We don't play it that way, but it is a sweet misprint.

    Here's a true story from 100 years ago when we still had Diabolic Servitude in the cube. One of our players calls out in the middle of a draft, "What's this card do?" He holds up the Servitude. At the time we had a lot more foreign cards in the cube, so I honestly just assumed it was foreign. Another player explains what it does, the guy acknowledges and places it back in the pack, makes his pick and passes. The pack reaches the guy who had explained the card and he exclaims, "Dude, this card is in English!" This has since been a running joke among our group and the go to response whenever someone asks about a card now. Cube is a blast.

    Posted in: The Cube Forum
  • posted a message on Card Æsthetics Evaluation Thread
    Quote from GoutPatrol »
    No love for the full art promo?


    For me, personally, I'm just not a fan of full art no text versions of cards. Of course using a textless Disenchant is different from using a textless Cryptic Command, but I'm just not a fan of the aesthetics of textless cards. I wouldn't mind a version of that in the new full art style, though. The art on it is nice.
    Posted in: The Cube Forum
  • posted a message on Card Æsthetics Evaluation Thread
    I like Beta more than foil 7th, though neither option is a bad one. My favorite Disenchant is the FNM promo.
    Posted in: The Cube Forum
  • posted a message on [WAR] War of the Spark for peasant cube
    So far this set is great for peasant cubers, especially compared to what we've seen in the last year or so from other sets. We still have another week of previews to go and, even at a tight 360, I'm already at four includes. For people with midsize or larger peasant cubes WAR looks like it'll give them a ton of new options.

    My current update list, again at 360, looks like this:

    Kasmina, Enigmatic Mentor -> Time of Ice
    Eternal Taskmaster -> Dark Ritual
    Paradise Druid -> Penumbra Spider (or maybe Phantom Centaur, but I love that guy)
    Saheeli, Sublime Artificer -> Gelectrode
    Posted in: Pauper & Peasant Discussion
  • posted a message on [SCD] Duplicant
    I believe Duplicant was somewhere near the beginning of the power creep of creatures from the past several years. I generally feel that it's overrated by players who played limited and constructed during Mirrodin. At its core it's just a colorless Nekrataal variant. Keeping that in mind, I don't think being colorless and the potential to end up a decent sized body warrants the six mana casting cost by today's standards. Casting Nekrataal to target a bear that's ruining your time feels good. Paying six for that same play is a little less satisfying. It'd probably be better, at least in cube, if it didn't take on the p/t of the creature it exiled and just remained a 2/4. I could also justify the casting cost if it was a clone that exiled the copied creature. I'd say it's a fine creature for larger cubes in the 720+ range, but only due to lack of competition at that slot. I'd put it at number four behind Wurmcoil, Triskelion, and Scuttling Doom Engine for that slot.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on Too many walkers
    Just based on what we've seen so far, I think we can safely say that a majority of this influx of new planeswalkers will be too weak for most cubes.
    Posted in: The Cube Forum
  • posted a message on Card Æsthetics Evaluation Thread
    To avoid getting too deep into the current Terese Nielsen debacle, I'll stick to addressing this:

    Quote from Cythare »
    EDIT: That being said, the original goal of the post was more "assuming I can't run Terese Nielsen arts (albeit, for self-imposed reasons), what do you think is the next best option for each of these?"


    Unfortunately for most of these there's just the one other art option. I think you're on point for your choices here, but I'd personally go with something other than the SDCC 2017 promo for Gideon/Chandra. I'd prefer the pack foils there. I'm just not a fan of the flat look of the hieroglyphic promos.
    Posted in: The Cube Forum
  • posted a message on [WAR][CUBE] Vivien's Arkbow
    Quote from wtwlf123 »
    I don't like the comparison to Pod. Partially because I think Pod is a bad cube card, but more because I think this is a completely different card. This is closer to a Survival or Evolutionary Leap effect than a Pod effect. So the Pod comparison simply isn't a good one.


    I think this is the card we were looking for when we were initially excited about Evolutionary Leap during that spoiler season.
    Posted in: Cube New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on Card Æsthetics Evaluation Thread
    I don't personally think an artist's political or personal views should have any bearing what so ever on how I feel about their artistic skills. I love Terese's work and generally prefer those options to others. Obviously you're free to add/remove whatever versions of cards you personally prefer from your own cube, but I think several of the replacements in that list are leagues behind the Terese versions.

    Posted in: The Cube Forum
  • posted a message on Sleeves and Storage Discussion
    Quote from Cythare »
    Has anyone here tried out the new Ultimate Guard Katana sleeves?


    I haven't even been able to get a single pack to sleeve a random deck in order to test them. My LGS can't keep them in stock. I do have a friend who ordered some online. He let me check them out and shuffle them when he got them, so I can vouch for the look and the shuffle feel on a small sample size. Just based on that, assuming you could get them for a decent price and there aren't any quality issues between cases when buying that many, it seems like a good sleeve option.

    Quote from SavannahLion »
    Oh..... I see. Tongue I thought you were talking about them stacked, I.e. Thickness. What a goof I am!

    Yeah, my experience has been spotty with Ultra-Pro and their tolerances. I can see having a 3+/-mm or so tolerance on their penny sleeves. But it gets pretty damn ridiculus when the 1 or 2 mm tolerance on their pro-fits and a similar tolerances on their deck sleeves mean double sleeved cards can stick out of the top.

    Even the cheaper BCW sleeves have much tighter tolerances.

    Really the only reason I have to buy Ultra-Pro is their ubiquitousness with the market. Stores that offer Dragon or KMC are typically sold out whenever I really need to buy them and have a ton on hand when I don't need to buy any. GrrrAAAAAH


    This reply was six months in the making. lol Grin

    I would offer an update on the Eclipse sleeves, but there's not much to offer. The unfortunate discrepancy in sleeve height across my cube makes me really dislike them. I can also add that the matte front on the Eclipse sleeves cuts down on glare, but also cuts down on how shiny your foils are. I would recommend Eclipse for miscellaneous decks or as draft sleeves that will hold up for a long time, but I don't think they are great for cubes.
    Posted in: The Cube Forum
  • posted a message on [[Peasant]] The Peasant Cube Discussion Thread (C/U/)
    Does anyone actually not run the perfect set of ten, out of interest?


    I'm not running the full set of ten. Selesnya, Gruul, Boros, and Golgari missed the cut for me at 360. Those pairs specifically just didn't seem like they had the archetypes that would want mana rocks very often. The colorless options felt better to me since, if a Golgari deck wanted access to a mana rock it'd have it, but the decks that would be more likely to want that rock would still have access to one that had a better up side than just being an off color rock.

    I'm also at 360, so my slots for these types of things are limited and sacrifices had to be made. If I were to go up to 450, it's possible I'd be more willing to include the rest or at least some of the missing Signets. I've also thought about trying out Dimir Keyrune. It seems like exactly what a UB control deck would want.

    Apparently, CMC5 is an utter land of desolation when it comes to decent Peasant-legal colourless cards. I was looking at Lurking Automaton and... er... crickets.


    I just checked my spreadsheet from the MTGS Average Cube project I did last year and Lurking Automaton is the only colorless five drop creature that anyone was running. It was in just two out of the 27 lists I polled. One person was running Strandwalker which kind of counts, but that's still not great.

    If you're willing to use online only rarity, you could look at Thopter Squadron. I feel like that card was good at some point somewhere? Maybe?

    Annihilator and/or Skullclamp... they're both totally busted. Yea or nay in your cube?


    This really just comes down to personal preference and how high you want to push the power level of your cube. Annihilator is probably fine no matter the answer there. Unless you're routinely seeing turn two Eldrazi, they shouldn't be any more oppressive than other powerful finishers. Skullclamp can be a point of contention, though. I tend to be on the side of it's not as powerful as everyone claims. Don't get me wrong. The card is bananas. But you have to make the card bananas. If you just add it into your Boros aggro deck for value, it'll net you some value and be really good, but not broken. If you build around it with lots of tokens and ways to abuse it, then it really starts to show its power level. Because I see it as a card that can be either of those things, I don't think it's too busted for peasant. It's powerful, for sure, but not ban worthy.

    I don't cross the Sol Ring/Library line, though. Those two cards are honorary P9 to me. These are cards are at a level where they're often debated which one of them is the actual best card in a powered cube. It's probably correct to take either of them over Black Lotus. That type of power level just breaks the spirit of peasant for me, so I can't see adding cards of that caliber to a peasant list.
    Posted in: Pauper & Peasant Discussion
  • posted a message on Evaluate Everything
    Quote from BetaHDream »
    I am looking the average cube and it seems a good list. I think the colors must absolutly be changed because like that are really confusionary. I would have choosen colors from red to dark green (7 total) that create a more intuitive red-green scale.

    Thanks for the help anyway Smile


    I totally agree. Unfortunately you're limited to the colors that CubeTutor has to offer, so creating a good gradiant scale is a challenge to say the least.
    Posted in: Pauper & Peasant Discussion
  • posted a message on Evaluate Everything
    I believe it was bacchus2's intention to keep it going, but they've not be very active in the forums lately that I've seen, so I don't know what the situation is there as far as the future of this project.

    I would recommend taking a look at the average MTGS cube list in my signature. This ends up getting very similar results to if you were to build a 720 list based on the rankings in this thread. I compared 27 recently updated peasant cubes from the MTGS forums here to get the results. It ended up at 641 cards, so just short of a 720 list leaving some room for personal preference at that size. It's updated through GRN, so only missing UMA and RNA.

    Just a bit of opinion based on what I've seen from the peasant format, though, would be that 720 lists can be extremely low power. Adding an extra limitation on yourself of making it modern only seems like it would greatly decrease the power level of the cards available to you. This could very well be the environment you're looking for, in which case, carry on. I just wanted to point out that in peasant, at least in my experience, going much larger than 450 starts to greatly fall down on the power spectrum.
    Posted in: Pauper & Peasant Discussion
  • posted a message on score/placement keeping
    Quote from TheGroglord »
    I just use pen and paper, or am I missing something?


    I believe OP is looking for a way to keep track of a tournament to organize each round and who's playing who and such. The app Big Jim suggested is probably exactly (or at least close to) what they're looking for.

    We tend to just wing it and not take it that serious. Honestly there are times that one match takes so long that we end up only playing two rounds before we shuffle up for another draft. To figure out the first round opponents, we usually pass around a stack of face down basics and each pick one. Matching basics play each other.
    Posted in: The Cube Forum
  • posted a message on [720][Powered][Conspiracy]Metamind's Cube
    Well, to be completely honest, I don't remember Haruspex being all that great during it's short time in my 550 list. Mostly, I was just curious as to how important you thought the ability to draw a card off its own death was. Seems like that really does make a big difference.
    Posted in: Cube Lists
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