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  • posted a message on MTGS Average Peasant Cube 2019
    I'm glad to see some folks are getting some use out of the list already. Thanks to Phitt77 for doing this originally and ultimately sparking the idea for me to do this last year. I've added the 2017 link to the OP as well.
    Posted in: Pauper & Peasant Discussion
  • posted a message on MTGS Average Peasant Cube 2019
    Quote from Narvuntien »
    I am not a big fan of the colour scheme it isn't intuitive, brain was hurting trying to keep track of what was popular.
    I feel like green should be the highest and red the lowest.

    There is a lot of popular cards I disagree with but hey thats okay.

    The color scheme isn't really a "scheme" or trying to be anything other that just different colors. I just have to work with the colors that CubeTutor offers for tags. It's easier to keep track if you use the filter function on the view list page and filter down to only the ones you want to see.

    Quote from ahhabee »
    Also, super insulted my list didn’t make the cut. Just super insulted. It’s like a personal attack on my character.

    Put a link in your sig. Wink
    Posted in: Pauper & Peasant Discussion
  • posted a message on MTGS Average Peasant Cube 2019
    With no more large sets scheduled for release this year, I thought what better time than now to go ahead and put this list together.

    We had seven sets adding new cards to our library since last year's average list was put together.

    Ultimate Masters
    Ravnica Allegiance
    War of the Spark
    Modern Horizons
    Commander 2019
    Throne of Eldraine

    Cutting to the chase, here's the link for the 2019 average list. https://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/156304

    Here is the CubeCobra link: https://cubecobra.com/cube/list/mtgs19

    The filters are not set up on CubeCobra yet, but I'll try to make that happen.

    I know the CubeTutor color coding can get a little blurry, but I find it nice to use the filter function to see where cards land or what an average 360/450/540 etc list might look like. You can also uncheck the show colours checkbox at the top of the page.

    If you're interested in more info about where exactly a card landed, here is the link to a Google doc I created. I didn't do this last year and I wish I had. Google Doc

    The Google doc details the list of users' cubes included in the average list, as well as the full card list including which user's list the card appeared in and how many times each card appears exactly. So if you're wondering why a card landed where it did, you can check the doc to see just who's running it and maybe spark up a conversation with them about why.

    Speaking of cubes included, I was able to get to 30 cubes this year, though I did have to stretch the criteria a bit. I got to 28 cubes looking at active users here on MTGS from the past few months. The final two cubes were recently updated (through Throne) cubes from CubeCobra and CubeTutor. Maybe this taints the list somehow, with them not being all MTGS users' cubes, but 30 lists seemed better than 28 to me. One thing I'll note on this is that you should all have a link to your cube in your sig. It's incredibly helpful. I probably could have gotten to more than 30 here on MTGS if more people had links.

    Another difference this year from last year is the exclusion of Un and Conspiracy cards. I did this instinctively because I don't personally enjoy Un cards, and honestly, I wish I hadn't excluded them from the average list. This is personal choice of mine, but obviously several people enjoy them, so I think it would have been nice to see where those cards landed in the numbers for those that want to include them. By the time this regret settled with me, I had already calculated the data to a point that it was too late to go back and include them. I did miss a few (as you can see in the CT blog) and some are still included in the Google doc.

    As to the data at hand, I've had people ask me why this list is somehow better than the CubeTutor average lists when I've linked last year's list to them. To answer that question and explain why I think this list is helpful, I'd say that, while this is a much smaller sample size, all of the cubes included are owned by cubers who have updated their list within the last three months. Most of them being active members participating in discussion happening on MTGS (the best Peasant cube community around). Also this isn't intended to tell you what you have to run in your cube. I personally just think it's nice to see what an average list looks like. Propaganda isn't a very popular card in the cubes included here, but my group loves it, so it's in no danger of getting cut.

    With all that said, the last things I'll include here are links to the 2018 cube as well as a link to the CubeTutor comparison between the two if you're interested in seeing what changed from last year to this year. I thought about going through that info, but it's a lot and this post is long enough already. Obviously this thread is an open forum for discussion of anything interesting you folks might find in the compare.

    2017 List
    2018 List
    CT Comparison

    Cheers, guys, and here's to another year of discussing this fine format with you all!
    Posted in: Pauper & Peasant Discussion
  • posted a message on Evaluate Everything
    That Google sheet is awesome. Very well done!
    Posted in: Pauper & Peasant Discussion
  • posted a message on FIrespout and Savage Twister
    The issue with cards like this is that, even though they can be very powerful in a peasant environment, they don't support Gruul as much as they support Temur or Jund midrange/control decks. So the playing trying to draft the RG beatdown deck sees a card like Savage Twister in the pack and they just can't take it. I don't think that's a good thing.
    Posted in: Pauper & Peasant Discussion
  • posted a message on [SOI] Nahiri, the Harbinger
    Quote from CubeEngineer »
    is nahiri still viable in cube now? it doesn't look like she fits any archetype at all?

    Nahiri kind of creates her own archetype in a way. I like her because she's not just another burn spell and she can generate a Boros deck that's not just aggressive. I've seen her in Naya ramp decks, Jeskai or Boros Wildfire shells, or Sneak Attack decks. She's like a breath of fresh air in a guild that's nothing but aggro support.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on [Conspiracy] ฺBrago, King of Eternity
    Quote from wtwlf123 »
    Soulherder might've been the nail in Brago's coffin for the cube.

    I came in here to say this exact thing. I ran Brago in my low power cube to support blink and tempo archetypes in UW and UWx decks and I've made the swap to Soulherder. Brago is a bit more powerful in vacuum. He's a flyer, he can exile multiple things to generate more value, but being cheaper and getting the blink effect on the turn he comes down is a really nice upside to Soulherder. I think that outweighs the potential value lost by exiling multiple permanents with Brago.
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on [GN2][Cube] Exclusive Cards
    I'm running Rampaging Baloths in my low power list, and this giant looks like a great replacement for it. Very cool.
    Posted in: Cube New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on [[Peasant]] The Peasant Cube Discussion Thread (C/U/)
    You could always play Infiltration Lens if you wanted a "fixed" 'clamp.
    Posted in: Pauper & Peasant Discussion
  • posted a message on [CUBE] The Great Henge
    I have a low power list that's currently running Rude Awakening as a ramp payoff. It's a card that's hit or miss, but I think this seems more fun/interesting and I might make that swap.
    Posted in: Cube New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on Ranking Project 2019 - Lands Voting CLOSED

    01 Library of Alexandria
    02 ONS/ZEN Fetch Lands
    03 ABU Dual Lands
    04 Prismatic Vista
    05 Mana Confluence
    06 City of Brass
    07 RAV Shock Lands
    08 Ancient Tomb
    09 Mishra's Factory
    10 Mutavault
    11 Ash Barrens
    12 FUT/MH1 Horizon Lands
    13 Strip Mine
    14 Rishadan Port
    15 Maze of Ith
    16 Wasteland
    17 WWK/BFZ Man Lands
    18 Grand Coliseum
    19 Gemstone Mine
    20 Terramorphic Expanse (Evolving Wilds)
    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on [ELD] [CUBE] Inclusions & Testing Thread
    My cut for Fabled Passage is gonna be Jeweled Amulet. Amulet is a good card, but it's a bit convoluted with needing to keep track of the color you used to activate if you don't use it immediately the following turn. Maybe that's just in my head, but the block of text on it often keeps my players from picking it very highly.
    Posted in: Cube New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on This or That discussion.
    Quote from EpicScar »
    Please help me choose 2 white 5’s for my Old School 93-97 (through Weatherlight) cube:

    Petra Sphinx
    Abbey Gargoyles
    Ivory Gargoyle


    How big is the list? Are you already running Serra Angel? If so, do you really need two more white fives beyond her? I just did a quick Scryfall search for all the white 5-drop creatures from those sets and, man, there's really not many options.

    If I had to pick two from those three, I guess I'd take the two Gargoyles. The Sphinx is interesting, but is there enough top of library manipulation to take advantage and not just be guessing each time?

    Posted in: Cube Card and Archetype Discussion
  • posted a message on Throne of Eldraine for Peasant Cube
    Quote from Leelue »
    stonewright is doing poorly for you?

    Not necessarily, but cuts are tough at 360. I'm open to suggestions for a different cut.
    Posted in: Pauper & Peasant Discussion
  • posted a message on Cube lists
    Ben (CubeTutor's owner) posted this on Twitter today, so it seems like the site has just been an unfortunate victim.

    "Cube Tutor continues to be targeted by people who appear to be making a Concerted Effort to take it offline."

    I predominantly use CubeTutor, but I also use CubeCobra.com and have been using it more and more lately with CT being offline more and more often. Beyond that I keep all of my lists in regular old spreadsheets.

    Posted in: The Cube Forum
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