Not seeing any lists that have the blue splash in the last 5 pages. Anyone have a link to a few? Trying to do 4 color loam with RBGu, including lily, snap, collective brutality, maybe search for az. Thanks!
Totally agreed; where do we stop with the one of lands. My main issue is that the legends we play against are stopped by maze anyway, and against sneak they can just wait a turn for the double red to Emrakul.
I'm liking the 3x Thalia sideboard so a karakas main with the additional options of riftstone portal, Savannah, and horizon canopy def still seems good.
Crucible is also a fav of mine so it'll always at least be in board. It's advantage main seems like it only comes when you're already ahead.
Anyone ever try grand architect with the crane for our combo or with the trinket, trophy or treasure mages?
Infinite life and tapped 2/2 thopters with the architect and combo
Anyone ever try Chandra, torch of defiance? Seems like a possible replacement for the Nahiri set. That +1 for 2 red seems like a huge bonus post balance not to mention the digging for more lands, action, etc.
Also I'm not liking yahennis expertise, there's not much I'd want to play for 3 after wiping and in an agro meta anger of the gods just seems better. It's also easier to cast color wise. Arguments?
Might be stupid but I could see a more blue based deck with the intact core being good. Was thinking of highlighting snapcasters with Volraths stronghold, brainstorm, daze, fow maybe. Make up for the loss of punishing with more abrupt decay and EE/ruins. Keep intuition and tolaria. Just a thought since snap is so strong and it'd give us better game against combo decks. Thoughts or additional card suggestions? Might give it a try at a local
Any thoughts on Nostalgic Dreams? Probably a one of. Great deck, great posts and just getting into the deck figured I'd add a suggestion from my collection.
Some of y'all are on the right track with the aggressive control mill needs to maintain. Emptying their hand rapidly is crucial but I think a great strength the deck has (especially against combo) is extraction. Turning extraction into a mana-free instant discard gives us a great chance to attack early. Also not sure if it's been discussed earlier but smallpox can do serious damage for us.
My list is definitely not optimized but what I envision is T1: Inquisition/thoughtsieze T2: Glimpse. Extract something you remember to be in their hand. They hit u with cheap threat. T3: Smallpox/Liliana. Followed by control game with remand working well with extraction, snapcaster for visions-glimpse-extraction-cryptic command-removal, and ashiok. I think that T2 or T3 smallpox can be huge to slow them down with a land and crit loss plus the discard. Just murders their momentum. I feel like a dick when I play this but it works. Let me know what y'all think
Not sure how to do the other way of entering a deck but here's my initial list:
I'm liking the 3x Thalia sideboard so a karakas main with the additional options of riftstone portal, Savannah, and horizon canopy def still seems good.
Crucible is also a fav of mine so it'll always at least be in board. It's advantage main seems like it only comes when you're already ahead.
Infinite life and tapped 2/2 thopters with the architect and combo
Also I'm not liking yahennis expertise, there's not much I'd want to play for 3 after wiping and in an agro meta anger of the gods just seems better. It's also easier to cast color wise. Arguments?
My list is definitely not optimized but what I envision is T1: Inquisition/thoughtsieze T2: Glimpse. Extract something you remember to be in their hand. They hit u with cheap threat. T3: Smallpox/Liliana. Followed by control game with remand working well with extraction, snapcaster for visions-glimpse-extraction-cryptic command-removal, and ashiok. I think that T2 or T3 smallpox can be huge to slow them down with a land and crit loss plus the discard. Just murders their momentum. I feel like a dick when I play this but it works. Let me know what y'all think
Not sure how to do the other way of entering a deck but here's my initial list:
4 Glimpse the Unthinkable
4 Archive Trap
4 Surgical Extraction
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Thoughtsieze
4 Snapcaster Mage
3 Liliana of the Veil
3 Smallpox
2 Cryptic command
3 Remand
2 Visions of Beyond
2 Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
22 Lands: Polluted delta, Watery Grave, maybe Darkslick shores, 1 Shelldock, basics