Quote from Davinel »I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Weatherlight can planeshift again at one point of the story. Or maybe it will be destroyed again ?
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Kiora also did it in the story Drop for Drop. Here's the relevant quote:
Reaching out across the Blind Eternities, she gathered to her the essence of every sea-beast she had ever called her own. She pulled those essences to her one by one, manifested them in Theros's seas.
Actually, wasn't Kioras whole mission on Theros at that time to establish a connection to Arixmethes (the immense Kraken) so that she could summon an aether copy of him wherever she liked? I never liked the explanation that planeswalkers could summon the original creatures from other planes. It has so much moral baggage and you would have to constantly explain away all the logical difficulties that this causes, especially after it was clearly established that the mending made interplanar travel for organic beings which are not planeswalkers or Eldrazi deadly. Also,they are mostly summoned to fight, so if planeswalkers summon the originals, does that mean that the originals simply die if they lose? Wouldn't that cause enormous problems if thousands of people and creatures constantly vanish and never return? Are they mind-controlled into doing the planeswalkers bidding? If not, why don't they object, if so, how could the more morally upstanding planeswalkers ever deal with the moral problems of doing so? It just raises too many questions, which the "aether copy summoning" explanation doesn't.
Most problems can be easily solved by considering you summon creatures from a specific period in a timeline amongst an infinity of timelines; if theses creatures die, they still exist in other timelines so there is no shortage. Simple.
The other logical difficulties can be justified precisely because we have very few informations on the details of players fights. So, many questions are raised but twice as many responses can be raised too.
Also, you're way too focused on the moral stuff, for me, a planeswalker with morals can make a pact with mutual consent with a creature and that's all.
If the creature is interested, good.
If the creature is not even a sentient being or not interested, the moralist planeswalker deal with it and don't bind the creature.
So why someone would willingly accept to be bounded to the will of a demigod in order to be summoned and sacrificed against monstrosities who did nothing to you and to whom you'd prefer not do anything ?
We can work our imagination, there's plenty of room : honor stuff, oath affair, fight for the good cause, etc
(of course, there is no need to make all theses justifications if you're an immoral planeswalker, for you just have to bind creatures against their will)
The "aether copy summoning" thing lack in epicness, it's like wearing counterfeit products. Or making a movie and lowering the budget. In the end, you can still imagine you will summon mere copies but i'll consider my creatures are the real deal
I guess in the end everything depends on personal preference... when it comes to imagining it for the game. Storywise though it's clear that aether duplicate summoning is the way these things go (at least when it comes to summoning beings from another plane). This is just a matter of plot consistency at this point. Also I reject the alternate timeline idea, not only because it leads to even further questions (since for example such breaches into different timelines were seen as a sign of the multiversal apocalypse in Planar Chaos), but also because it is nearly exactly as "boring" as simply cloning the creature via aether. Either way it's not the real deal from your time stream and for all intents and purposes the aether clone might vary less from the original than an alternate timeline counterpart which could have had different experiences and be totally different. In my opinion connecting to a creature/sentient being in such a way that you are able to duplicate them and their feats for a short time is very impressive anyway.
In regards to the Weatherlight: I can't believe that they would build up this new team and then leave them on Dominaria for at least a few years after only a few stories with them. It might not happen in Dominaria or even before the final confrontation with Bolas, but New Phyrexia is rising and what better way to fight them off than with the same ship with which their older counterpart was defeated. Sooner or later it will get its planeswalking power back somehow (mirroring Teferi now that I think about it).