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  • posted a message on Eldraine Fairy Tales
    Based on the existing art, we already (probably) have:

    - Avalon
    - Knights of the Round Table
    - Camelot
    - Hansel and Gretel / the Gingerbread House
    - The Frog Prince
    - Baked into a Pie? (Four-and-Twenty Blackbirds? Jack Horner?)
    - The Lady of the Lake
    - Sleeping Beauty / True Love's Kiss (role-reversed if the former)
    - Wicked Stepmother
    - Overgrown by Brambles (from Sleeping Beauty)
    - Wicked Queen w/ Apple (Snow White)
    - Little Mermaid
    - The Gingerbread Man
    - Goldilocks (now a bear hunter)
    - Little Red Riding Hood (who is apparently Rowan Kenrith) -> could mean Will Kenrith is Little Boy Blue, or both double as Hansel and Gretel

    I agree Big Bad Wolf, Rapunzel, Glass Slippers, the Holy Grail, Excalibur, Merlin, Mordred, and Morgan Le Fay are all very likely, and I hope we see the Pied Piper, Puss in Boots, Rumpelstiltskin, and the Green Knight. I also second the request for a few (probably won't be many, sadly) more obscure Fairy Tale references - the Blue Light, Bearskin, and Snow White and Briar Rose, for example.

    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Throne of Eldraine speculations
    With what little we have to go on right now, based on the art and the formal invitations, I'm guessing an Arthurian / Chivalric Romance traditional High Fantasy set, and that it will be Kasmina's home plane. (She is a wizard who trains other wizards, so she could easily be the world's Merlin analogue.)
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Brand new world after Core 2020 confirmed
    While I agree a Viking / Norse plane (probably Kaldheim, Valla, or a renamed-for-trademark-reasons version of one of those two) seems most likely, I just heard another theory today about the Fall set: a true Dungeons & Dragons crossover set.

    Last fall, WotC published the Guildmaster's Guild to Ravnica for D&D 5th Edition. D&D is huge right now, including streaming D&D games, and WotC is clearly looking to bring the Twitch crowd to Magic and especially Arena. So maybe it's time for MtG to return the favor and visit a D&D plane (such as Faerûn)? We've been promised a new plane, but that could just mean new to Magic.

    Any thoughts?
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Quote from Perkunas687 »
    So my original pet theory was that Ugin would ultimately take out Bolas like Flynn takes out CLU in Tron Legacy. I had heard War will happen on more than one plane, and I thought it might happen in the Meditation realm.

    However, I was perusing Maro's Tumblr and he says that the mythic walkers are the main players of the story (Bolas, Gideon, Liliana), and that Ugin will be rare because he's only a supporting character, with 'a role to play.' Which is kind of disappointing, after the core set last year set up their history.

    So if what Maro says is true, then it's Liliana and Gideon that are most likely to take down Bolas? And I think Maro also said the other plane isn't Amonkhet. So which plane might it be? Dominaria?

    Since you brought it up, the Meditation Realm actually makes the most sense - perhaps the final battle against Bolas will be fought there, or alternatively, there will be some sort of epilogue set there (e.g. if Bolas is defeated but survives or is sealed away).
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Re: Nissa and Vivien's respective chances for survival - I don't see *both* of them dying.

    To my mind, Vivien is being potentially being positioned as the next focal green planeswalker to replace Nissa. For Nissa, given everything that happened in Amonkhet (and the subtitle of her War of the Spark card), I believe she will play a big role in defeating Bolas. From a narrative standpoint, that would be a good place to end her story arc (such as it is), since there doesn't really seem to be anywhere else her character can go. It would also be a good bait and switch with Liliana - the trailer makes you think they will kill one of the iconic Gatewatch members and then they instead kill a different one.

    My one reservation about Nissa's potential death is this: WotC has been building up some kind of significant relationship (not necessarily romantic) between Chandra and Nissa (even Maro recently made a joking reference to it here) and from that perspective, I'm not sure they would want to kill both Jaya *and* Nissa (probably two of the three most important people in Chandra's life) off at the same time. For a variety of reasons other people have already brought up, I feel a lot more certain about Jaya's death.

    Quick Edit - For the record, I would prefer that no preexisting character be killed off except Bolas. Every character is someone's favorite character, and even bad characters have plenty of potential in the hands of a good writer. Killing off characters just to show how serious the situation / how high the stakes are is one of the worst comic book cliches out there, but I can at least see the narrative case for Nissa, Liliana, Gideon, or Jaya dying (or Jace, as the Living Guildpact, but *no one* thinks that is going to happen).
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Quote from Flisch »
    What I find odd is that Dack does not have a card despite being shown to die in the trailer. What's up with that. He could have easily taken Saheeli's slot, who doesn't really feel like a natural inclusion to me. (Then again, she does have ties to the gatewatch, so I guess it's fair.)

    http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/183853892223/will-we-see-dack-in-some-cards-even-if-we-dont

    According to Maro, Dack wasn't part of the story when they made the set, hence him not having a card. He's also said elsewhere that some planeswalkers were included / excluded based on how they chose to color-balance the 36 different planeswalkers. (For example, that could be why Daretti and Mu Yanling are absent.)

    In-universe, it's possible Bolas has some control over which planeswalkers are and aren't summoned - for example, Garruk running around and killing other planeswalkers would be antithetical to Bolas's plans to steal their sparks, so he was uninvited.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    Aside from the obvious meta-reasons and the presence of Project Lightning Bug and/or the Beacon, it's possible there is another reason why Bolas chose Ravnica for his final play: Merging the Immortal Sun with the Guildpact might be an integral part of the plan. Recall Nissa's vision from "The Hand That Moves":

    "A large golden disc, shaped and stylized like a sun, descending from the sky. The sun disc approached a large circular stone tablet covered with strange sigils, and the two discs merged, becoming a single golden disc. Cracks appeared in the golden disc, small at first, then widening, growing. The disc crumbled away into nothingness."

    As we discussed back when Ixalan came out, that certainly sounds like the Immortal Sun merging with the Guildpact. It might just be using Azor's spark within the Immortal Sun to destroy the Guildpact, but it could also involve merging their properties to allow the Elder Spell to occur.

    Also... the rest of the vision (after the symbols of the defeated Gatewatch)is interesting as well:

    "She closed her eyes against the onslaught, but still the images came tumbling through her head, crumpling her in mid-air. A falling dragon. Giants, covered in metallic blue, stomping through streets. A massive flash of light, consuming a world. An angel descending from the sky. Nissa opened her eyes, and the angel continued to descend. It was the angel from her nightmare. The angel that reminded her of Emrakul."

    I'm guessing that those visions refer to Niv's "death", the Eternals, and the Elder Spell...

    But does the vision of the Emrakul-esque angel foreshadow anything in War of the Spark, or was that just a projection of whatever force or being was speaking to Nissa back in Amonkhet?
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion

    I bet good money on Jaya, Old Mentor. And sure she said she wanted to help Karn with Phyrexia but two issues with that Jaya never did anything about Phyrexia in the past and Karn and Jaya were never friends before this recent trip back to Dominaria. Mostly she is old mentor though to Jaya so she is a dead women walking. I hope she gets a good card though. Yawgmoth vs The Nine Titans resulted in what half the Weatherlight Dead and 7 out of 9 of the Nine Titans gone by the time it was done.

    Half the major legends on Ravnica dead is possible some are already dead like the Ghost Council. Bolas putting down 50% of the Walkers present though yeah no. I be impressed if a dozen Walkers fell in the fight quite frankly. As for who they kill personally I like them to kill some Humans, we have too many Humans running around.


    I cynically expect three to six casualties, even though I hope I am wrong. Good call on Jaya - Dead Mentor cliche and her character lives in very similiar planeswalker card space (in terms of card mechanics)as Chandra means WotC likely sees her as expendable (sadly). Also, good call that some of the casualties will probably be Ravnica Legends and not (only) planeswalkers. (Aurelia dying so Feather can return to lead the Boros Legion in the future is a one possibility I can see.)
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) and War of the Spark (WAR) General Discussion
    I'm assuming the major planeswalkers that are missing are AWOL because they have anchor roles in future storylines - Koth and potentially Tezzeret for a return to New Phyrexia, for example. (And if War of the Spark is Bolas's last hurrah, the Phyrexians are the next logical villains to begin building up.) Dack (and Elspeth) being missing could indicate a return to Theros in the near future. Garruk also probably has a starring role in a set in the near future, hence his absence.

    I agree that Sorin's inclusion is weird - I didn't think we'd see him again until the next return to Innistrad. I really, really hope they didn't just handwave him out of the stone wall offscreen, but I have a sinking feeling that is exactly what happened. Unless the beacon literally summons the planeswalkers, forcibly pulling them into Ravnica (which could also explain Nissa, although from a narrative standpoint I kinda hope Nissa gets involved to specifically because of Chandra).

    Also... I hate to be morbid about this, but is it too soon to start taking bets on who is going to be killed off? And I say this as a person who genuinely hates character deaths except as earned closure to a long-running arc (e.g. Urza, Yawgmoth), but I worry WotC with the love of comic-book tropes is going to kill a few planewalkers off to establish the stakes of the conflict. (If I were Kiora or any of the new planeswalkers introduced in this set, I would be looking over my shoulder. I also worry about Nissa with Vivian waiting in the wings. Despite Nissa not being well served by various writers, I still believe she has untapped potential as a character.)
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on (GRN) Guilds of Ravnica General Discussion
    Can we use this thread to discuss Ravnica Allegiance, or has that discussion entirely shifted to the Artbook spoilers thread?

    Quote from Moppi »
    Good God, if Ravnica 3 ends up with Jace still as the Living Guildpact, imma gonna Phage-slap him and/or somebody.


    My half-baked theory for this month is that Wizards originally created the "Living Guildpact" role for Jace as a way to semi-retire him in the wake of Jace, the Mind Sculptor and complaints about his over-exposure. A way to take him off the table for the time being but make him available to appear in the future.

    But then Magic: The Gathering gets optioned for a movie (coming never to a theater near you) and Creative Consultants asked Wizards who their 'Mickey Mouse' was, and they said "Jace". (MaRo has told a version of that story several times.) So they begin putting together the Gatewatch storyline with Jace at the front and center, but of course this creates a problem with Jace being "the Living Guildpact". So they decide to have Jace ignore his newfound responsibilities (whether that is out of character for him is a discussion I don't want to get into) until they could engineer a plot about him losing his status as "Living Guildpact". Nissa's visions in Amonkhet hinting that Bolas will use The Immortal Sun to destroy the Guildpact seems like it is leading in this direction.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on (GRN) Guilds of Ravnica General Discussion
    Obviously, the big question in all this is: What is Bolas's endgame? What does control over Ravnica get him that he didn't already have, in the grand scheme of things? And why did he need the Guildpact (or some other group of planeswalkers) to exist?

    Crazy theory time - Nissa's vision back in Amonkhet implied Bolas will fuse the Immortal Sun with the Guildpact. I've been assuming that Bolas could use Azor's spark in the Immortal Sun to destroy the Guildpact (also a creation of Azor's power), but, inspired by mapccu's post above... What if Bolas instead can combine the two, creating a sort of super-Guildpact that will bind every planeswalker on Ravnica to his will? That would explain everything Bolas has done since the Alara block - he wants as many planeswalkers as possible to come to Ravnica, either in his service or to oppose him, so he can bind them all.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on (GRN) Guilds of Ravnica General Discussion
    Quote from Lord_Mektar »
    Quote from Perkunas687 »
    According to today's MaRo article, two guilds in this set and three guilds in the next will be under Bolas' control/influence. Also, each of the five Bolas guilds will be led by a planeswalker loyal to Bolas.


    Yep. What I'm wondering is which three guilds in Allegiance will fall under his sway. We only really know of two 'walkers besides Ral and Vraska still under his command: Liliana and Tezzeret. Liliana is both easy and poetic. I can easily imagine Bolas going "Hey, Lili, you have some experience killing demons, yes? Be a doll and go off Rakdos for me. Then take over the guild while you're at it."

    Tezzeret is harder. We now know that Isperia is out of the picture, which makes Azorius a slightly more likely choice than Simic for the blue artificer. Especially given that he's originally from Esper, and that the Simic would likely firmly object to a technologically, as opposed to biologically, enhanced individual as their leader.

    As for the last one, it's up in the air. Kaya doesn't seem like the sort to work for Bolas. We haven't heard from Domri in ages, and the same applies to him. Though he would obviously know how the Gruul operate, were he to be swayed via mind control. My bet though is on Ramaz taking over the Gruul. He never got a card, we know he works for Bolas, and the Gruul already have shamans. Yes, he'd be yet another RG planeswalker, but oh well.

    For whatever its worth, I believe Ramaz's full identity is RGU. He would still probably be printed as an RG card, though.

    As to the Guilds, I am still operating under the theory that the Pro-Bolas and Anti-Bolas Guilds will be color-balanced. With BG and UR covered, and I agree that Azorius is now likely, my current theory is that Golgari, Izzet, Azorius, Orzhov, and Gruul will be Pro-Bolas, leaving Boros, Dimir, Selesnya, Simic, and Rakdos to be Anti-Bolas.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on (GRN) Guilds of Ravnica General Discussion

    I wonder if they color balance the sides.
    He has Golgari and Izzet.


    Let's play this out... Each color appears in four Guilds - e.g. black is present in Dimir, Golgari, Orzhov, and Rakdos. In order to color balance each faction, the Bolas faction and the Defenders of Ravnica Faction would each have five Guilds that collectively have each color represented twice.

    Baseless speculation time: The Bolas Guilds are Golgari, Orzhov, Boros, Simic, and Izzet (once Ral takes over). The Defender Guilds would then be Dimir, Azorius, Rakdos, Gruul, and Selesnya.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on (GRN) Guilds of Ravnica General Discussion
    Greg Weisman writing the novel is legitimately exciting to me - he's very good at writing multifaceted characters with layers of nuance.

    And I cannot believe I did not expect Kaya being called in to deal with the Ghost Council - in retrospect, it's such an obvious match-up.

    Edit - I don't believe Izzit is pro-Bolas yet, although Bolas clearly intends for Ral to take it over. My half-baked theory is that Aurelia is under Bolas's control (explaining why Lazav sent Krenko to free Feather) and the Boros Legion will betray the anti-Bolas alliance to Bolas. And that we will see Feather finally get a card in the unnamed third set.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
  • posted a message on Guildmasters of Ravnica D&D Campaign Setting?
    Quote from krishnath »
    Well, there goes the "we don't cross the streams in our products" argument right out the window, together with both the barrel, the baby, and the bathwater.

    Now can we finally get Illithid and Neholders in M:TG?


    I'm probably way off-base, but... what if the third name-to-be-announced Ravnica set (which we know does not focus on the 10 Guilds, and presumably features Nicol Bolas's invasion) is a full-blown D&D / MTG crossover set?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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