Pizza: We are the slowest people in the mafia-playing internet. I'm actually having trouble keeping up with the high pace of this game. I never should have done this.
Also, after posting that he wanted to "win something" for having the most posts, BE disappears for 3 days.
@BE: What are your current thoughts on Kami, ZDS, and imab. In detail please.
3 days! It was one and a half! I haven't even been prodded, and prods are at 48 hours!
Kami is null-scum for me. Multiple people say that his posting is different, and I trust them, I gues. I have no (completed) games with him. I still don't want to lynch him atm but we have thee days so Vote Kami
ZDS has been analysing all game. He's been scumhunting hard. I have no idea what the case on him is, but it ain't good, that's for sure.
Imab has been obvtown since day 1. His aggression is so genuine. Like, really genuine
So, KJ is asserting that:
- He just copied the attack idea from KK;
- Relm is attacking him for the attack idea;
- Relm didn't attack KK for the attack idea, and this is inconsistent.
I'm weirded out by WG's #14 and GJ's #43 for voting when the rules say there aren't any votes, only attacks.
I'm also pinged by KK's #36 where he calls for a mass claim of attack stat. That would be more helpful to the scum. If scum knock out the town with higher attack stat, it would be more difficult to kill the scum. I'm not sure if I distrust him for it but I think it's a bad idea.
I'm also pinged by KK's #36 where he calls for a mass claim of attack stat. That would be more helpful to the scum. If scum knock out the town with higher attack stat, it would be more difficult to kill the scum. I'm not sure if I distrust him for it but I think it's a bad idea.
That is a much better reason not to do it than any I'd thought of.
Please explain as best you can why you thought it was a good idea.
I was about 50-50 on whether it was a good idea or not, and was hoping for opportunistic scum to agree with me. Failing that, I figured I could town clear somebody, which I think I have.
Benefit:
+We can keep track of our hp and know when a death is coming exactly, so we can choose the likely town to get the hammer bonus xp.
Consequences:
-Scum might learn info about our roles from it.
-Scum might lie about their attack to mess up our calculations (but that might make them easier to catch, so maybe +)
Note that at this point, KoolKoal has already stated that he was only 50-50 to start on the idea, and has seen additional detriments beyond that. In other words, KoolKoal is clearly not supporting the idea at this point. This is what Relm says about it:
Note that this is the first time Relm has posted since the attack massclaim thing got proposed. By this point, the proposal has been basically resolved. Later, Killjoy enters the picture:
Now to figure out how to exploit them. I'll think on that.
I like KK's Attack idea.
Attack re:KK
Benefit:
+We can keep track of our hp and know when a death is coming exactly, so we can choose the likely town to get the hammer bonus xp.
Consequences:
-Scum might learn info about our roles from it.
-Scum might lie about their attack to mess up our calculations (but that might make them easier to catch, so maybe +)
Speed:
Benefit:
+We can judge where people will fire relative to everyone else, at least N1. Specifically, docs and cops and the like will be able to make better decisions as to when they will fire.
Consequences:
-Would not benefit the town directly, only indirectly.
-Scum might lie, messing up calculations.
HP:
Benefit:
+Late game, we can do some maths and figure out how much damage was done to a person, then if their HP is less than the amount of damage, we catch scum in a lie.
Consequences:
-Without claiming this, scum could potentially try to attack someone on the assumption that they might die, but then they don't. With this claim, scum would know who not to attack, or maybe who to attack more.
Claiming what we leveled up:
Benefit:
+Kind of a mismash of all the other benefits if we assume all people start at our personal values.
Consequences:
-Scum might learn info about our roles from it.
-Scum might lie about their attack to mess up our calculations (but that might make them easier to catch, so maybe +)
Others I see no benefit to claiming.
If I missed any benefits or Consequences, let me know.
I also dislike DCIII's big post.
Although I also dislike hans' assessment of DCIII's post.
HP hasn't done much, but I remember that being a thing she does early game.
Pizza claims to have been hit with Delay Attack. This is interesting if true, because not a lot of people in this game know him. Only one of those people are likely to target him. (Unless this means he just doesn't have time to read. That could be a thing too)
KJ says that he likes the idea; he further expands on it directly, adding more +/- for claiming other stats. The series of posts after this have already been summarized by Relm.
So this is the real series of events:
- KK posts the mass-attack claim idea and swiftly retracts it;
- Relm makes an offhanded comment after the retraction;
- KJ picks up the already-retracted idea and claims to like it, and expands on it;
- Relm questions this;
- KJ deflects the questioning to KK;
- Relm points out KJ's inconsistency and backtracking;
- KJ attacks Relm, and claims that Relm should have been questioning KK over the same thing.
KJ is trying to hide behind KK and misrepresenting the events, and that retaliatory attack on Relm is clearly anti-town.
Sword-chucks, yo! I'd be like Bruce Lee meets Musashi! Only better! God, I'm so brilliant!
COULD BE A BREADCRUMB
1) Why did you see necessary to highlight Iso's crumbs?
2) Why do you want us to class claim (not to mention full massclaim)? What benefits do see in it?
@Wheat - you asked me if I've ever read you as town, which implies that I often read you as scum (and has a subtext that I'm usually wrong). What are you basing that impression on?
KK - "doe eyed" information spew
Relm - similar takes as mine, tone
Hunt - Naturally inquisitive to Iso
Meg - not elaborating on this one
Sep - naturally playful
Hans - "Bro."
Bur - newish player proposing mass claim
Cantrip - cop play (although I really didn't like the rest of Cantrip outside of that)
Iso - like top three reads, play, push
Gentleman Johnny - sloppy
HP - not elaborating on this one
?
Sir Chris
MisterSins
Mojito
Players who haven't posted
Eeeeh.
Chemtrails - "can't argue with that" comment felt self-conscious
KA - Sir Chris/Gentleman Johnny interaction (tip-toeing around calling GJ a hypocrite but not drawing any conclusions from it)
Wheat
Wheat - pending answer to my question above
More Suspicious Than Wheat!
Dante - awkward. apologizing, validating people for suspecting him, "good guy" posting.
Blindfaeth - #57 "good guy" posting, tentative language around reads, approach to KK
*hits self with a zombiestrike weapon to avoid the effects of Death*
Not so great for my ability to heal, but I don't have enough stuff collected to make a Deathproof armor.
The sudden hunger for brainnnnsss not really that different from my usual.
I read the rules, looks like we're voting by an attack and HP system.
Don't attack me, I'm ever so vital to this team.
Weren't you a part of Mafia Championship games?
If what point do you see in telling "don't attack me, I'm vital" everyone? What are your current thoughts on the game?
To answer your question to me in there Bur... I did it because I felt like it.
Attack: Bur
This whole post is crap, and is the only one you have all game. I just got off Animal Mafia where you would do this, and you turned out to be super scum. Not letting it happen again.
Why is it crap?
Shouldn't you wait for more interactions before going that far?
Yes and nothing.
No
Busing is a thing that exists. Not saying that I or Imab are bussing, but you should consider the possibility at least.
Also, your case on me is total crap. Like there's so much baloney that I'm not even gonna attempt to answer it.
3 days! It was one and a half! I haven't even been prodded, and prods are at 48 hours!
Kami is null-scum for me. Multiple people say that his posting is different, and I trust them, I gues. I have no (completed) games with him. I still don't want to lynch him atm but we have thee days so Vote Kami
ZDS has been analysing all game. He's been scumhunting hard. I have no idea what the case on him is, but it ain't good, that's for sure.
Imab has been obvtown since day 1. His aggression is so genuine. Like, really genuine
you wouldn't.
I think I'm already voting you.
'Consistant'??? I only grant kills on spades. I tried to give Seppel a bodyguard. I give bodyguards out on red suits.
/spectate. Three games=already too many games.
I agree, KJ is misrepping in a scummy way.
@Chemtrails: wow you're more useless than me.
Hooker is probably town, but I agree with ISO that his attack is odd. However, he's done it in a townie way.
BF's posts look so fake Attack Faeth
Why is it crap?
Shouldn't you wait for more interactions before going that far?
I failed at reading. Sorry.
This happened to me too.