Quote from benjameenbear »The list that I've been having some success with on Arena is as follows:
Esper ControlMagic OnlineOCTGN2ApprenticeBuy These Cards
Creatures (1)1x Nezahal, Primal TideNon-Creatures (30)1x Dawn of Hope4x Thought Erasure1x Cast Down2x Moment of Craving2x Negate4x Mortify4x Absorb4x Kaya's Wrath3x Vraska's Contempt3x Chemister's Insight2x Precognitive PerceptionPlaneswalkers (4)4x Teferi, Hero of DominariaLands (26)1x Swamp1x Plains1x Island4x Hallowed Fountain4x Watery Grave4x Godless Shrine4x Drowned Catacomb4x Glacial Fortress3x Isolated ChapelSideboard (15)2x Negate2x Disdainful Stroke1x Invoke the Divine3x Cry of the Carnarium3x Unmoored Ego2x Lyra Dawnbringer2x The Eldest Reborn
I play Best of 3 matches and I win a little bit more than I lose. The matchups that I have a tough time with are Mono-Red, the mirror match, and Mono-Blue Tempo. Sultai Mid-Range feels pretty manageable, particularly with the 4x Kaya's Wrath being mainboard. I find that I enjoy any Nexus of Fate matchup because a lot of them try and sideboard/keep removal in the main in anticipation of me bringing in Thief of Sanity. Juking them out feels fantastic, especially with the Ego stealing all of their Nexi with Counter backup.
I'm a little torn on the sideboard Disdainful Strokes. They're good against any mid-range deck and most Control decks, but I kinda want to shore up my Tempo and Mono-Red Matchups with more cheap removal. I'm contemplating going to just 1 The Eldest Reborn and adding in another Cast Down in the side. While I loved siding in [CARD}Thief of Sanity[/CARD], everyone is expecting it now and anticipates it, so it's no longer as effective as it once was.
The Matchups that I've come across as being most common are Azorius Aggro, Sultai Mid-Range, Mono-Red, Esper Control, Gate variants, Mono-Blue Tempo, and Nexus of Fate decks. Izzet Drakes will probably pick up in popularity soon, but that matchup feels manageable with the heavy Removal count mainboard. Either way, the fact that the meta has settled down a bit makes Control a better option than it was previously.
My favorite part about Esper Control is how I no longer lose to Carnage Tyrant. That card literally made my blood pressure rise every time I tried playing against it with Jeskai Control. No longer!
It's been mentioned a number of times by professional MTG players and writers, but the mainboard Thought Erasures go a LONG way in shoring up some difficult matchups G1. Taking a Mono-Red's Frenzy is game-changing, or nabbing a Vivien Reid or Find//Finality can be pivotal in winning G1. It's probably the best card for Control decks right now, and I could easily see a Grixis variant doing well. Maybe a Grixis variant with mainboard Thief of Sanity could be intriguing and effective against the current meta.
Hope that this brief analysis helps.
Quote from kpal »Actually Kaya's Wrath and Grace being a non-bo is quiet the opposite. You almost want Grace in the grave yard when you're on your last breath so that you reset your life total back to 10.
My prediction is that Gruul will be the dominant creature deck. Requiring cards like Mortify. which are an upgrade over Divine Intervention since it takes out monsters too.
Therefore, my suggestion for an esper build would be either A) UW based splashing black for only 4x Mortify. B) BW based splashing blue for only 4x Tefi
Quote from Simto »
Yeah, it's bull***** they made Azorius crap because of Teferi. I still went with them at the pre release either way hehe.
To me Quench seems better than Syncopate. Syncopate is almost always the first card I side out and they kinda fit the same spot.
The question to me is still, is the deck strong enough now? Is it better than Niv Mizzet? I like the non damaged based removal from black over the red damage spells, but Niv Mizzet alone is pretty much better than everything else hehe.
I still think jeskai is stronger, but I prefer playing with Esper.
Quote from Courier7 »Between this and Rhythm of the Wild it seems unlikely that Control has much prospect for long-term success. Demystify will have to be in the main.
Quote from AnImAr_ »half x life and half x cards? Sigh.
Quote from Simto »Haha thanks. I think I'll have to win 10 FNM's to have enough store Credit for one or two more Teferi hehe. FNM's here in Denmark are pretty small.
Yeah, the Mortify reprint is pretty sick. I still like cast down for the lower cost, but Mortify will be sick.
Quote from Fred Bear »
Thanks for the answers... Hopefully, you won't mind some follow-up discussion...
I'm going to try the Ritual of Soot based on your comments. I see a lot of Adanto Vanguard, so I may keep a couple Golden Demise in the board, but otherwise, I too am wishing for Supreme Verdict to make a comeback.
I'm also going to try the Treasure Map. I've been very impressed with the 'turbo mill' package of Sabotage, Thought Erasure, and Discovery as quick flips of Search for Azcanta can be a significant advantage. That said, here are a couple more questions:
1) Was Dream Eater worthwhile? I've played a list (link is not me) set up similar to yours (no Treasure Map) and I just really didn't care for it. I like flash, etc. etc., but in most match-ups it just ate a removal after 1 (or less) hits. If I had the permission, I really didn't care to protect it and it didn't feel necessary. Love to hear other thoughts, though.
I don't particularly like the card, and was hesitant to try it. It's a lot better than I thought. It slows down a lot of problematic permanents. Once in the tournament, I cast it to throw 3 or 4 cards in the GY to flip Search, which was huge.
2) Did you miss Eldest Reborn in the main? I find it to be a card I search out, a lot. I like to play 2 maindeck, but it may just be my playstyle as opposed to 'right'.
Kinda, but not too much. I love that card, but IMO, it is more of a tap-out style card. SB, it does a lot in the appropriate matches. Especially against Niv when you haven't or can't Ego them.
3) Did Vona do enough? I've played Profane Procession from the Board, but I've not played Vona in a while. At 5 mana, is it fast enough to matter (I'm assuming it comes in vs aggro)? What am I missing?
The lifegain removal is the MVP in the aggro matches, but Vona is really good. I never activated her, but a 4/4 vigilance lifelink creature is very good. She gets you out of Banefire range fast and slams the door on them quickly. Cheaper than Chromium. In a pinch, she can destroy History, Frenzy, The Immortal Sun, any planeswalker. I sometimes bring one in against GB if they appear to not have a lot of removal. Also good against GW Tokens.
Personally, I've found it comes down to what 'has' to be destroyed and when, which could be completely wrong, of course. I find you almost have to pick and choose your one-for-one removal and not play a cast down on a creature that can be dealt with using a different card. (I win a lot at less than 5 life by the way...)
Quote from Simto »Congrats on the great result! Awesome to see you running Unmoored Ego. Love that card.
I don't get why so many pick Golden Demise over Ritual of Soot. Ritual is insane.
I love Esper Control. Going to run a bad variation of it at my next FNM, but I'll have fun doing it hehe. I run more white to have access to Lyra and Settle. I only have two Teferi though...
How did you like having so many moment of cravings? Last time I ran esper I had 2 or 3 main and the rest in the sideboard, but every single time I drev one I wish it had been a Cast Down which I only had two of. My current build has no moment of craving and four cast down main deck (pseudo Fatal Push...) so I will most definiteley be up against decks with lots of Adanto Vanguards hehe.