I understand what you mean, I may take out the 2 evolving wilds for 2 islands and take out 1 plains for the 4th irrigated farmland so I'll have 16 islands out of 25 lands. I don't really need double plains main deck, after sideboard regal caracal might need double white.
Actually I will give it a shot, I wanted the evolving wilds to thin out my deck but I guess having 16 islands in the deck would make it a lot more stable early game and make the engulf the shores very strong since in the first 4-5 turns I only need 1 white mana at most and having 7 dual lands would probably give me that.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll change the decklist above to fix that, I have really fallen in love with engulf the shore.
Thanks so much for making my deck clickable, I will try to edit my original post and see if I can make it the same way. As for your suggestions, I have not been playing magic or standard for 7-8 years and now I live in Tokyo, Japan and have just found out about a local store. I want to attend their limited events and also the standard events since the deck I will be playing is not that expensive and I can keep it under $100.
I also have a lot of experience with playing control decks, but I have no idea what my meta is at this store. They do have almost daily standard tourneys, but I haven't actually watched any games to know what people are playing.
So, by having just 2-3 of each card I want to confuse my opponents since they won't know what cards I'm playing in my deck and how many of each. So, that's why I want to test 2 engulf the shore and 2 fumigate maindeck, I may buy another fumigate for the sideboard, also I like that engulf is an instant and only needs 1 blue to cast so I can keep a counter back after casting it.
Second I really like Censor in testing, because it does act as a hard counter turn 2 and maybe turn 3 and after that I can just cycle it away, I want to be able to counter as many things as possible in the first 4-5 turns. Once I figure out if my meta is creature heavy or not then I can decide on whether to run 4 essence scatter or 4 negate main deck or not.
Any suggestions on win condition main deck first game? I think that the glyph keeper is very hard to kill and it's embalm ability makes is great later in the game. Another question is can I use Cast Out on a planeswalker? (I stopped playing magic right after planeswalkers came out so I almost never had to play against one)
One last thing, I got my inspiration by watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uojgtju4nuY
And yes I know that deck is Gearhulk heavy, that's why it works but I can't afford it right now, and I want to keep this deck on a budget.
So, I have decided recently to get back into Magic after about a 7-year hiatus. I am looking to play mainly limited but also want to play some standard tournaments.
Since I was very comfortable playing control decks in the past, I believe the last deck I played in standard was U/B faeries, that should tell you when the last time that I played standard tourneys was.
Anyway, here's the U/W control that I'm working on for standard right now, I believe the deck is less than $100 in total which to me is pretty budget and since I don't have any cards I will basically buy every card in this deck.
So, anyways this is my deck right now, I didn't get to test it yet in the field, but I think it is good enough to take on some of the other decks and it is well under $100. The 5 main deck rares are less than $1 each. The regal caracals are also less than $1, and the dovin bann's are about $3 each, the Sphinx is also $1 and Linvala is about $2. The other higher priced cards are the lands basically.
I am not sure if the Glyph Keepers and Viziers main deck are enough of a win condition, I would like to play another win condition but not sure what. I do like the regal caracal and vizier possible combo after side boarding the cats in and turning into more of a beatdown deck.
I was also thinking of putting 2 or 3 Approach of the second sun in the sideboard and also up the Failure/Comply to 3 so that those become an alternate winning combo and can win in 2 consecutive turns, but it would take 9 mana to pull it off.
Anyways, what do you think about this deck and do you have any suggestions on other win conditions for it? I do not want to get the Torrential Gearhulk because it is very expensive and I don't like that it's an artifact and many people will have main deck hate for it. I also don't like Kefnet because it is also kind of expensive and this deck doesn't need to draw cards that much to win in the first game.
I like having only 5 creatures main deck so the opponent's kill creature spells will be useless, also not playing any planeswalkers main deck either for the same reason.
I'm gonna go ahead and quote myself cause everyone seems to miss that part.
White Über-enchantment 1W
Enchantment
Creatures and enchantments you control have shroud.
That's a rumored card, and coming from the imp it's fairly certain that it's real. So back to the original question, how the **** will you get rid of a WG creature with Shield in a situation like that? Of course the shield would have to be played before the other enchantment, but it can still happen. No Nameless, no God/damn, no maw etc etc... the only thing that comes to mind is Cruel Edict (as long as they have no other creatures on the board) or Evacuation, which noone plays. Anything else that might work?
Nameless Inversion works just fine, as does Peppersmoke, Festercreep and any other card that uses -x counters. Giving a creature -1/-1 or +1/-1 will kill it if it's a 1/1 even if the aura is on it, since the -1 part of the counters that affect toughness kills the creature as a state based effect. No creature can have a 0 toughness in the game at any time, it'll die as a state based effect.
So, there's more than enough things to kill the creature even with the aura of indestructability on it.:D
I love camarid tokens, i actually played homarid spawning bed way back when mirage came out and i started playing magic. It's not that bad of a card.
Homarid Spawning Bed
Cost: Card Type: Enchantment P/T:
Rules Text (Oracle): , Sacrifice a blue creature: Put X 1/1 blue Camarid creature tokens into play, where X is the converted mana cost of the sacrificed creature.
One per booster is pretty good...if you're really lucky you can keep opening akromas and psionic blasts, or voids and mystic snakes or other playable cards.
I'm pretty sure they'll be standard legal, there's no point to reprint cards in a new set that won't be legal in standard...it kind of defeats the purpose of type 2 and new sets.
Wizards is reprinting cards with no mana cost, and you think that reprinting disenchant and psionic blast is crazy?
Would you have ever thought of cards like Evermind and Lotus Bloom would ever exist, until they actually did?
Exactly!
So there's 121 old cards that you can play again in type 2, who cares...are we all going to build decks around wall of roots, consecrate land and void now?
I doubt we'll be building decks around shadowmage infiltrator and akroma either...so live with it.
I'm guessing these reprints are really meant to bring back some old players to magic. I know i'm going to start playing again after this set is out, even though i haven't been playing much the past couple of years.
It's unbelievable, even if these cards are only limited legal, how exciting it would be to open a pack and see a Void, or Psionic Blast or Shadowmage Infiltrator in it. It's like having 2 rares in one pack...however i don't think they're going to have one per pack, maybe one per box. It seems that one per pack is too easy to get...i don't know.
Thanks but Cast out pretty much does the same thing and can hit other permanents, I think it includes planeswalkers, is that correct?
Does anyone know of another win condition for the main deck, except for torrential gearhulk or kefnet...anything else that I am missing?
I understand what you mean, I may take out the 2 evolving wilds for 2 islands and take out 1 plains for the 4th irrigated farmland so I'll have 16 islands out of 25 lands. I don't really need double plains main deck, after sideboard regal caracal might need double white.
Actually I will give it a shot, I wanted the evolving wilds to thin out my deck but I guess having 16 islands in the deck would make it a lot more stable early game and make the engulf the shores very strong since in the first 4-5 turns I only need 1 white mana at most and having 7 dual lands would probably give me that.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll change the decklist above to fix that, I have really fallen in love with engulf the shore.
Thanks so much for making my deck clickable, I will try to edit my original post and see if I can make it the same way. As for your suggestions, I have not been playing magic or standard for 7-8 years and now I live in Tokyo, Japan and have just found out about a local store. I want to attend their limited events and also the standard events since the deck I will be playing is not that expensive and I can keep it under $100.
I also have a lot of experience with playing control decks, but I have no idea what my meta is at this store. They do have almost daily standard tourneys, but I haven't actually watched any games to know what people are playing.
So, by having just 2-3 of each card I want to confuse my opponents since they won't know what cards I'm playing in my deck and how many of each. So, that's why I want to test 2 engulf the shore and 2 fumigate maindeck, I may buy another fumigate for the sideboard, also I like that engulf is an instant and only needs 1 blue to cast so I can keep a counter back after casting it.
Second I really like Censor in testing, because it does act as a hard counter turn 2 and maybe turn 3 and after that I can just cycle it away, I want to be able to counter as many things as possible in the first 4-5 turns. Once I figure out if my meta is creature heavy or not then I can decide on whether to run 4 essence scatter or 4 negate main deck or not.
Any suggestions on win condition main deck first game? I think that the glyph keeper is very hard to kill and it's embalm ability makes is great later in the game. Another question is can I use Cast Out on a planeswalker? (I stopped playing magic right after planeswalkers came out so I almost never had to play against one)
One last thing, I got my inspiration by watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uojgtju4nuY
And yes I know that deck is Gearhulk heavy, that's why it works but I can't afford it right now, and I want to keep this deck on a budget.
So, I have decided recently to get back into Magic after about a 7-year hiatus. I am looking to play mainly limited but also want to play some standard tournaments.
Since I was very comfortable playing control decks in the past, I believe the last deck I played in standard was U/B faeries, that should tell you when the last time that I played standard tourneys was.
Anyway, here's the U/W control that I'm working on for standard right now, I believe the deck is less than $100 in total which to me is pretty budget and since I don't have any cards I will basically buy every card in this deck.
U/W control - Amonkhet Standard
4 Irrigated Farmland
2 Aether Hub
12 Islands
3 Plains
1 Westvale abbey
3 Glyph Keeper
2 Vizier of Many Faces
2 Engulf the Shore
2 Fumigate
3 Censor
2 Disallow
2 Void Shatter
3 Essence Scatter
2 Negate
2 Commit/Memory
3 Glimmer of Genius
2 Pull from Tomorrow
2 Cast out
3 Immolating Glare
1 Sphinx of the final word
2 Horribly Awry
3 Regal Caracal
1 Dovin Baan
1 Fragmentize
2 Approach of the second sun
2 Failure/Comply
So, anyways this is my deck right now, I didn't get to test it yet in the field, but I think it is good enough to take on some of the other decks and it is well under $100. The 5 main deck rares are less than $1 each. The regal caracals are also less than $1, and the dovin bann's are about $3 each, the Sphinx is also $1 and Linvala is about $2. The other higher priced cards are the lands basically.
I am not sure if the Glyph Keepers and Viziers main deck are enough of a win condition, I would like to play another win condition but not sure what. I do like the regal caracal and vizier possible combo after side boarding the cats in and turning into more of a beatdown deck.
I was also thinking of putting 2 or 3 Approach of the second sun in the sideboard and also up the Failure/Comply to 3 so that those become an alternate winning combo and can win in 2 consecutive turns, but it would take 9 mana to pull it off.
Anyways, what do you think about this deck and do you have any suggestions on other win conditions for it? I do not want to get the Torrential Gearhulk because it is very expensive and I don't like that it's an artifact and many people will have main deck hate for it. I also don't like Kefnet because it is also kind of expensive and this deck doesn't need to draw cards that much to win in the first game.
I like having only 5 creatures main deck so the opponent's kill creature spells will be useless, also not playing any planeswalkers main deck either for the same reason.
Thanks!
Nameless Inversion works just fine, as does Peppersmoke, Festercreep and any other card that uses -x counters. Giving a creature -1/-1 or +1/-1 will kill it if it's a 1/1 even if the aura is on it, since the -1 part of the counters that affect toughness kills the creature as a state based effect. No creature can have a 0 toughness in the game at any time, it'll die as a state based effect.
So, there's more than enough things to kill the creature even with the aura of indestructability on it.:D
Or maybe they're born with hair only on their heads.
No, it doesn't. They've already received them at our local store and have then in the display case waiting for next month.
They don't look much better at all.
Got mine a couple of days before christmas, one damnation and 12 textless cards.
Homarid Spawning Bed
Cost:
Rules Text (Oracle):
Would you have ever thought of cards like Evermind and Lotus Bloom would ever exist, until they actually did?
Exactly!
So there's 121 old cards that you can play again in type 2, who cares...are we all going to build decks around wall of roots, consecrate land and void now?
I doubt we'll be building decks around shadowmage infiltrator and akroma either...so live with it.
It's unbelievable, even if these cards are only limited legal, how exciting it would be to open a pack and see a Void, or Psionic Blast or Shadowmage Infiltrator in it. It's like having 2 rares in one pack...however i don't think they're going to have one per pack, maybe one per box. It seems that one per pack is too easy to get...i don't know.