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  • posted a message on I've been hearing murmings everywhere online about this Double Master's Product. Solutions?
    We all know that buying randomized product is not a viable way to get the cards you need to play the game, even with Standard legal sets. So why is it that people are upset with the pricing?

    I look at it like this, let someone else play the lottery, while you benefit financially from lower secondary market card prices.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on What is the point of temporary effects from now on?
    I've watched people pervert what strictly better means over the years. It's more common to see people using it today, without much backlash, but in the past that wasn't the case.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Fake Smothering Tithe?
    Got one of these Smothering Tithes first and shortly after that I suspected it was fake. Something seems off, as it is much smoother and shiny like a Bicycle playing card compared to how the new cards are printed since Dominaria. The card is also thicker and feels heavier. You can identifying which card is which with you eyes closed by the weight and feel of it.

    From these scans, does one of these cards look fake? I'll hold off on which one it really is until I get some feedback. Also, could this just be an alternative printing or the promo version of the card?
    Posted in: Card Authentication
  • posted a message on Wolrd's Smallest MTG
    Let hope they reprint Dance of the Dead in this set. Also, would these be legal in a tournament?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Bubble Hulk
    How does the banning of Faithless Looting affect how this deck works?
    Posted in: Combo
  • posted a message on Making all Modern frame cards Modern legal?
    I see you Professor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3FQTHMG_nI



    Quote from WizardMN »
    Quote from urweak »
    Would it be wrong to ban a bunch of the cards already identified in this thread as problematic? Just because True-Name Nemesis has protection from just about everything, doesn't mean it has protection from being banned.

    Quote from foam_dome »
    How would this apply to cards that received modern-frame printings in online sets? Dual lands and power were printed in Vintage Masters, would you want those to be added to Modern's card pool?

    How about cards that were given modern-frame promo versions? Survival of the Fittest, Yawgmoth's Will, Natural Order, Force of Will, Mana Crypt, etc.?

    (These questions are all rhetorical, by the way - I'm thoroughly convinced that such a decision would have terrible repercussions)


    This would apply to paper printings only. Also, some of the cards you listed are reserved list cards that were reprinted under a loophole. They would effectively be un-set level cards (silver boarder), and unplayable. This is because they shouldn't have been allowed to be reprinted under currently interpretations of the RL.
    First, that seems arbitrary and irrelevant as the policy at the time they were printed allowed them to be printed. Are you suggesting that anything that wouldn't be printed now (for whatever reason) would not be allowed?

    Second, this opens up the format to a lot of cards that are questionable at best. While some cards are not insanely overpowered (though others are), they can potentially push many different different strategies to broken status. Looking through about 800+ cards (and this isn't even all of them that would be included in your hypothetical scenario), here are the ones that seem the most concerning:



    Some, like Sinkhole, may not actually be that bad but I included them here just to give an idea of some of the cards that would be included. Things like Berkerk and Invigorate power up Infect to a pretty big degree. Natural Order can be a turn 3 Progenitus. Price of Progress and Fireblast could push Burn up to an intolerable level. Armageddon and Winter Orb are miserable to play against. Channel is banned in every format it can be banned in. Cabal Therapy might not be bad, but it is on the line. Same with Coffers. Entomb + Reanimate/Animate Dead/Exhume can push Reanimation strategies, such as those with Griselbrand, pretty high. And they are not limited to Legendary creatures so even getting back something like Inkwell Leviathan can be devastating.

    And, of course, the fast mana. Dark Ritual, Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Lotus Petal are way too good. Lotus Petal is probably on the fence since Simian Spirit Guide exists but being able to go into any deck is troubling.

    I even left some off this list (like Memory Jar) because of your weird condition about reserve list cards.

    Again, I am not saying all of these are necessarily problematic and some may find their way to Modern eventually if Modern Horizons becomes a regular thing. But, there is no way that a change like this isn't accompanied by huge swaths of bans along with a massive upheaval in the metagame. Introducing new cards is fine; completely overhauling the format overnight is not.


    My point about reserved list cards, is that they were reprinted via a loophole, and by today's standards, those reprints are considered a mistake. It's not weird for current policy to align with a new potential policy. IE, they are not eligible for being reprinted today, so they would not be eligible for Modern legality.

    Also, a number of the cards you listed are only reprinted in specialty sets like FTV, judge foils or as lottery cards. These specialty, limited run cards should also not be considered.


    Anything that falls through the cracks from there, that is too powerful for Modern, just ban it.


    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Making all Modern frame cards Modern legal?
    Would it be wrong to ban a bunch of the cards already identified in this thread as problematic? Just because True-Name Nemesis has protection from just about everything, doesn't mean it has protection from being banned.

    Quote from foam_dome »
    How would this apply to cards that received modern-frame printings in online sets? Dual lands and power were printed in Vintage Masters, would you want those to be added to Modern's card pool?

    How about cards that were given modern-frame promo versions? Survival of the Fittest, Yawgmoth's Will, Natural Order, Force of Will, Mana Crypt, etc.?

    (These questions are all rhetorical, by the way - I'm thoroughly convinced that such a decision would have terrible repercussions)


    This would apply to paper printings only. Also, some of the cards you listed are reserved list cards that were reprinted under a loophole. They would effectively be un-set level cards (silver boarder), and unplayable. This is because they shouldn't have been allowed to be reprinted under currently interpretations of the RL.
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Official Future Shifted card speculation
    Does anyone thing we will see a FS printing in Modern Horizons? Maybe some snow permanents like Centaur Omenreader?
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Making all Modern frame cards Modern legal?
    Years ago, cards from the Portal Sets and Starter sets were not legal in the Eternal formats Vintage and Legacy, but that changed around the early 00's. Could we see a similar occurrence here when Modern Horizons hits? Has there been any official statement to say that this will not happen?
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Green Merchant Scroll
    Bring to Light is the closest thing that exists.
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Bubble Hulk
    Has anyone eyed the new Heartwarming Redemption? Seems interesting to me. At instant speed, it seems powerful, as so much of the discard effects in the deck are mainly sorcery speed.
    Posted in: Combo
  • posted a message on Official Future Shifted card speculation
    Quote from Manite »
    This thread's been necro'd three times!? That's an academy record!


    This thread is from 2010, it's been necroed many times and will continue to be, simply because of the nature of the thread.

    Edit: Also, if anyone is keeping track, it's been necroed at least 6 times.

    Quote from krishnath »
    Quote from urweak »
    Quote from krishnath »
    It was Narcomoeba in Guilds of Ravnica.


    It was already reprinted once (Modern Masters). So it is marked on the list as a reprinted card.
    .

    Can't really count sets that only consist of reprints, sadly that means that some cards will never return to standard (like 'goyf)


    Actually you can, and that's what I have been doing for almost 9 years now. The whole point of this thread is to speculate on what future shifted cards will be reprinted in coming sets. While also indicating when a future shifted card has been printed with a non-future shifted card frame.
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on UR Shape Anew
    Quote from idSurge »
    Necro!

    Did folks give up on this? I've added Saheeli Rai to my UR shell and it hasnt been too bad. Its still one of the only T4 UR combo's like twin. That I've had any success with. :]


    Double Necro (Hello 2017)!

    Speaking of Saheeli, there is the new Saheeli, Sublime Artificer. Every set I look at the new cards with this deck in mind, a few have seemed like good candidates, but not enough to push the deck into competitive play. I suspect, or am at least hopeful, that one or more cards will be printing to make this deck competitive.
    Posted in: Deck Creation (Modern)
  • posted a message on Official Future Shifted card speculation
    Quote from krishnath »
    It was Narcomoeba in Guilds of Ravnica.


    It was already reprinted once (Modern Masters). So it is marked on the list as a reprinted card.
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Totally lost reprint
    Quote from Marquisd »


    https://twitter.com/Theasianavenger/status/1113199801917628416

    Is that a statue of Bolas on Ravnica?


    I guess it's part of some hard line policy to never reprint stuff that would bounce lands ever again. But at 5 CMC, you would think they could allow this card to bounce anything. Have they said something like Boomerang is too good for Standard?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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