Quote from Greyimp »I quite like this one but it lacks a keyword.
One of those.
Quote from Colt47 »She seems like she could fit into a monument build quite easily. I think that strait vampires will probably want a different four drop since Sanctum Seeker is a far more impactful card in a strait build.
Quote from Azurhawk »So I'm the only one annoyed that this has no synergistic interaction at all with Elenda, the Dusk Rose?
Quote from Greyimp »Quote from MercurialMemory »But...uhhh...It doesn't do anything but sit there at 3cmc? The enchantment itself has no ETB.
Ok poop. For some reason (probably the choppy looking translation stuff) I thought you got an exile out of initial cast. Now this card stinks of WotC still being too careful with removal.
Where's my doom blade.
Quote from MercurialMemory »But...uhhh...It doesn't do anything but sit there at 3cmc? The enchantment itself has no ETB.
Quote from WenSon »meh... i dont wanna pay 4 mana for a 1/1 lifelink mythic that gives me a 1/1 token with lifelink on its base
is this really supposed to be mythic level ?
i think she should either be a 3 mana creature or at least be a 2/2
this feels like a another missed opportunity. this will be another super cheap mythic. why not make it decent. i mean one of the above changes (3 cmc or 2/2) wouldnt make her broken or unbalanced...would make her just fair
compare it with pia nalar... she is a 3 mana 2/2 (so both and just 1 color) and has also 2 other abilities
pia and kiran nalar would be another example for 4 mana (still just 1 color)
SO WHY IS THIS MYTHIC ? even worse than vona ...(maybe i am just disappointed cause i was looking forward to this card)
Quote from EasyLover »Is this even worse than Archangels light ?
Mayne . . . My compassion 4 all da poor souls openin dat.
Quote from berlin412 »Little disappointed here lore-wise.
According to Mavren Fein's tale and Planeswalker Guide to Ixalan (Part 2) Elenda was supposed to be nine feet tall and a great warrior, having defeated all by herself Apostatine Princes' army on Torrezon. She was in addition the one who brought vampirism on the continent, being in fact the ancestor of all vampires on Ixalan.
So, a deadly quite-tall fighter and a "progenitor". Neither of these two traits are appropriately shown on the card. She's only a 1/1 with no combat abilities (first strike, deathtouch, some -X/-X tricks) that dies in almost every clash: and this is in my opinion the biggest flavor fail. In addition, to create vampires (the "ancestor" side I suppose) she must die, while it would have been more appropriate if one of her main abilities had been to turn creatures into vamps like both Olivia's cards do (in fact Elenda brought vampirism, not vampires, back home).
Ultimately the card, while not that weak in the right build (anthems and equipments to increase her power are always a thing), it's all but memorable, anonymous I would say, for the fact that the same abilities would have fitted any other WB vampire in the set. Yeah, I know Vorthoses can't always get what they want, but they can hope.
Having said that, I'm also positive Elenda will get a better treatment in the story. Let's wait and see.
Quote from Greyimp »
When you make her a 1/1 without an ETB that at least gives her a single pump when played, she's too far below rate. Something like 'when blah blah enters the battlefield give one creature -x,-x where x is the number of vampires on the battlefield.
Quote from Greyimp »Legion Lieutenant is why she's a 1/1. They build from common up, seems like the reason. Still think 2/2 makes it Mythic or an ETB -x/-x or both.
Quote from berlin412 »Looking at new spoiled card Profane Procession//Tomb of the Dusk Rose and at its flavor text provided by cyberium_neo (Vona seeks the conqueror, Maiven seeks the savior, when they found the person...//...she is resting in her glorious tomb) Elenda third ability makes now more sense.
Quote from Tiro of Meletis »Nice to finally see Edgar's card. His Vampire token should have had Lifelink IMO, but he's cool.
Quote from Cainsson »Edgar would be good if most vampires weren't 4cmc+ or limited crap.
Vampires should have been a midrange deck, not the dumb aggro. I expected the red deck to be ***** like always, but I expected that to be Dragons, not Vampires.
Quote from Tiro of Meletis »I want to know who the guy in the Curse cycle is. He is so screwed lmao He's basically me in the MTG multiverse - no matter where you go or what you do, you gonna get the worst
Quote from scottjhebert »
Heh. When everyone has Teferi's Protection, no one has Teferi's Protection.
Imagine if it cost 2... Isochron Scepter...
Quote from Igzex »I declare that it is mandatory to wave your hand in front of your face and say "You can't see me" whenever you successfully resolve Teferi's Protection.
Quote from ryuplaneswalker »Quote from MrMime133 »Oh wow! Edgar Markov is a pretty amazing commander for a casual vampire players. He seems exceptional for wide vampire armies, and theirs no need to cast him. He is a tad on the expensive side. Wish he was like or cheaper though. All in all, solid fellow. 10/10 would play! I am amazed no one is talking about him...
He is kinda dull, The abilities are nothing we haven't seen recently really.
He is Oketra Monument stapled onto Drana.
Quote from MrMime133 »Oh wow! Edgar Markov is a pretty amazing commander for a casual vampire players. He seems exceptional for wide vampire armies, and theirs no need to cast him. He is a tad on the expensive side. Wish he was like or cheaper though. All in all, solid fellow. 10/10 would play! I am amazed no one is talking about him...
Quote from Creedmoor »
I could only dream of a new, updated version of Baron Sengir!!! Oh man people would go nuts. Although I feel like he would have to be mono black so he couldn't be a general for this deck, just in the 99. But that's okay with me.
Quote from Channel-Ball85 »soley for the reason that giant strength is a permanent that will offer a constant +2 +2, where as brute strength only last til end of turn. granted you will have trample, which is worth it as well as the +3 +1, but I would personally rather have a longer lasting effect. simply a matter of personal taste.
Quote from Rezzahan »If getting your creatures through to deal combat damage is a problem, a Rogue's Passage or two can fix that.
Quote from Channel-Ball85 »I would replace shock with lightning bolt, and then replace brute strength with giant strength
Quote from Rosy Dumplings »Unfortunately, Amonkhet isn’t doing much of the buff game in red outside of Brute Strength, though Kaladesh does have Built to Smash and Aether Revolt’s Invigorated Rampage might be worth considering.
There are no proper replacements for Uncaged Fury, sadly. Onward//Victory comes close but can’t be used to save your creatures in combat.
Quote from Rosy Dumplings »As far as giving out haste, the best options in the new set are Cartouche of Zeal (which would allow you to play Trial of Zeal for reusable kill shenanigans) or Bloodlust Inciter, which is reusable but easy to kill (and isn’t an artificer).
Quote from Rosy Dumplings »If you ware willing to look beyond artificers for creatures, Nef-Crop Entangler, Ahn-Crop Crasher, and Bloodrage Brawler all offer decent value in the aggro game that might be of use to you.
Quote from Trifas »I totally agree with including removals. It also makes the deck a bit less frustrasting to play against creatures the cats can't deal with on combat.
Quote from Trifas »Her support card doesn't shine either and, as you said, it is off theme and at 4CMC the ramp is not that relevant anymore. Maybe I could cut both for Immolating Glare. Even Ajani's Aid would be better, I guess. But I'll probably go for the removal spells.
Quote from Trifas »Thanks again for your post! It will surely help me a lot =)
Quote from Rezzahan »First, let's spice up the land base a bit. Just commons doesn't nessessarily mean basics only anymore. You can easily fit some Looming Spires, Sunscorched Deserts and/or Desert of the Fervent in there.
Quote from Rezzahan »Renegade Tactics is mostly a cheap cantrip to trigger prowess, I guess, so Crash Through could complement or replace it. If it is to stop a creature from blocing, well, Wrangle should be much better suited for this.
Quote from Rezzahan »A couple Lightning Axes (a common in Time Spiral block) would give you the ability to deal with bigger creatures for cheap, and the discard can easily allow you to get rid of excess cards in your hand (like superflous lands) to enable Thresher Lizard.
Quote from Rezzahan »Rush of Adrenaline may be a good alternative or supplement for Brute Strength since being 1 mana cheaper should be quite important.
Quote from Rezzahan »Firebrand Archer can deal damage without attacking, and you have quite the number of cheap spells to trigger it.
Quote from Rezzahan »Tormenting Voice gives yo a way to "cycle" away a land to get anther spell, while being a spell to trigger prowess itself.
Quote from Rezzahan »Giving double strike and a small power boost via Uncaged Fury is also an option. If the opponent has no turn 2 blocker, that's already 6 damage on turn 3 with Nimble-Blade Khenra or Sanguinary Mage.