Because people who were suspended/banned have ripped other people off in
the past by using MTGS and MTGS has taken the brunt of their complaints is why.
We don't do this for 'grins and giggles'. By no means.
We do this to protect you, our friends and patrons, from getting ripped off.
If you personally have no problem with trading with Stu, then by all means feel free to.
Honestly, our hands are tied when it comes to protecting new members and patrons.
Hope you understand.
(Note:
Sorry about the delay. My power went out because of power line repairs. <3 "Restore Previous Session.")
Umm how was he a danger to trading if I may ask?
Its not like he committed any bad trading practices or anything. NO ONE said they had a problem with trading with Stu, I don't know where you get this idea that people need protecting from him.
Your saying your hands are tied, but you don't seem to have any idea whats going on! Him being suspended was NOT to protect anyone, its because of infractions that he received. Stu is one of the best traders I know, and you seem to be just assuming things here.
Now that I've caught up on this I'll see what I can do with creating such a system.
Just remember folks, play with fire and you're apt to get burned.
We will not be responsible if you get ripped off.
Go-go-gadget tech-hat!
WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING RIPPED BY STU?
This has NOTHING to do with his trading practices. The only thing it has to do with is him trading while he was suspended for violating FORUM GUIDELINES.
I'm sorry that you're upset, but this policy's been in effect for a little while now.
Believe me, it's going to be seen and discussed.
That said, the staff discussed this before banning him. We checked things out first. It is completely unacceptable for people to use the site's PM system to profit while suspended. If it had JUST been on AIM then nothing would have happened. MTGS can't police that, but we can stop people who have broken the rules time and time again from continuing to do so.
If someone is suspended from the forums, why ON EARTH would you let them use the PM system? They cannot communicate with people via posting but they can using the Private Messaging system? That makes no sense.
Also, your letting people use the PM system while they are suspended - so now your going to limit them to using it for non-trading? You should either let them use it for whatever they want (normal forum rules applied mind you), or not let them use it at all.
I don't think you understand. I wanted the opinions of the members of this forum, which are obviously also concerned. Stu was an important member to me and to others.
If I wanted to talk to Annorax about this, I would have just IMed him. But then again, it seems nothing is private anymore, so I guess people should just chat on here.
I posted this in the Speak Your Mind section for a reason, so that the public would be able to see how unhappy we are with this decision. I'm absolutely upset that it was moved when it was intended to be posted on the Speak Your Mind main forum.
EDIT: Also, I may not be directly involved, but I think I have the right to state how I feel about a good friend of mine getting banned from the forums.
Your concern is honorable that is why I responded. Normally I wouldn't have responded
to this because, as I've said before and I'll say again, if it does not involve you and/or
no one involved told you then you don't need to know.
This is a speak your mind forum, is it not?
Am I not allowed to speak MY mind?
I thought the banning was unwarranted, and I felt I needed to say something about it, and I'd like other people to speak their mind because I'm curious about what others think as well.
So, if I mention MTGS in an IM, I'm not allowed to use swear words, bring up controversial issues, etc.?
Stu55 was banned for evading his suspension by trading via PMs.
I am upset Stu was banned, and I really do not think the mods made the right call in banning him.
Is there even any proof that he sent PMs to attempt to set up a deal? Screenshots from the other guy?
I'm asking because I talk to Stu all the time, and he claims he did not use the PM system to try to negotiate a trade.
Even if he used IMs, which is not making a deal through MTGS, does that really warrant a permanent ban? I would think a temporary ban or something could be in order, if that, but definitly not permanent.
Maybe I'm not seeing something here, but I'd like some answers. I'd also like to hear what other people think about this.
I put a disclaimer on my Ebay auctions and my sale threads, though.
Some guy tried saying he didnt receive his playset of Force of Wills a few months ago... I told him to screw off cause I'm not gonna take the heat because his mail system sucks..
I mean, if you don't wanna listen to me, you can't really help that. If you must do something to try to get her back, have sex with her friend or something. Jealousy is a very powerful tool.
Umm how was he a danger to trading if I may ask?
Its not like he committed any bad trading practices or anything. NO ONE said they had a problem with trading with Stu, I don't know where you get this idea that people need protecting from him.
Your saying your hands are tied, but you don't seem to have any idea whats going on! Him being suspended was NOT to protect anyone, its because of infractions that he received. Stu is one of the best traders I know, and you seem to be just assuming things here.
WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING RIPPED BY STU?
This has NOTHING to do with his trading practices. The only thing it has to do with is him trading while he was suspended for violating FORUM GUIDELINES.
If someone is suspended from the forums, why ON EARTH would you let them use the PM system? They cannot communicate with people via posting but they can using the Private Messaging system? That makes no sense.
Also, your letting people use the PM system while they are suspended - so now your going to limit them to using it for non-trading? You should either let them use it for whatever they want (normal forum rules applied mind you), or not let them use it at all.
If I wanted to talk to Annorax about this, I would have just IMed him. But then again, it seems nothing is private anymore, so I guess people should just chat on here.
I posted this in the Speak Your Mind section for a reason, so that the public would be able to see how unhappy we are with this decision. I'm absolutely upset that it was moved when it was intended to be posted on the Speak Your Mind main forum.
EDIT: Also, I may not be directly involved, but I think I have the right to state how I feel about a good friend of mine getting banned from the forums.
This is a speak your mind forum, is it not?
Am I not allowed to speak MY mind?
I thought the banning was unwarranted, and I felt I needed to say something about it, and I'd like other people to speak their mind because I'm curious about what others think as well.
So, if I mention MTGS in an IM, I'm not allowed to use swear words, bring up controversial issues, etc.?
I am upset Stu was banned, and I really do not think the mods made the right call in banning him.
Is there even any proof that he sent PMs to attempt to set up a deal? Screenshots from the other guy?
I'm asking because I talk to Stu all the time, and he claims he did not use the PM system to try to negotiate a trade.
Even if he used IMs, which is not making a deal through MTGS, does that really warrant a permanent ban? I would think a temporary ban or something could be in order, if that, but definitly not permanent.
Maybe I'm not seeing something here, but I'd like some answers. I'd also like to hear what other people think about this.
I put a disclaimer on my Ebay auctions and my sale threads, though.
Some guy tried saying he didnt receive his playset of Force of Wills a few months ago... I told him to screw off cause I'm not gonna take the heat because his mail system sucks..
we'll have to see!
i'm honestly trying to get off for this one!
I'll be playing vintage.
Face it, she has you whipped.
I mean, if you don't wanna listen to me, you can't really help that. If you must do something to try to get her back, have sex with her friend or something. Jealousy is a very powerful tool.
I don't think I'll be able to handle myself.
Your crazy! The room at the convention center will be filled!
This is gonna be a great time so come out and join the fun everyone!
You have 4 seas and trops too?
I also like the way Alex signed your strands.