Affinity seems like the best deck out of that bunch. It has the most depth and skill required to play it, and it's a deck that's been tier 1 for as long as I can remember. It gets hated to some degree, but never enough that it's actually a problem. It's also easy enough to play okay on the surface, so you'll see some amount of success with it while you spend time mastering it.
I was going to say the same thing. I think the deck is not for the weak of heart, as there will be days when everyone gets Stony Silence in games 2 and 3. But if you master this "VERY HARD to play super well" deck, there will be a lot of rewards. I believe that it's the best of what you listed and it's good vs. Big Tron and Titanshift, which are the current flavors of the week. Burn and Infect are also good vs. those, but I think Infect is not quite on Affinity's level and Burn seems to always come down to "is it a Bolt?" or "am I dead?" I am biased here, so if someone else suggests Burn, that may actually be a solid suggestion.
True, affinity is the ‘best’ tier 1 deck I guess. But it goes down to specific hate tho. Burn aswell.
But you guys do not mention E-Tron, this deck no good anymore?
Infect is on it’s way back indeed, but I have got the same feeling about it. Do not know if it is good enough.
I am a bit lost in modern right now. Been playing last pptq season: Abzan and Counters Company. After deciding I needed to play more modo(mtgo) I sold my Abzan to play paper and modo the same time.
I started my journey with UR Gifts Storm. Deck is good, but there is so much hate and I feel I am not the player for the deck.
Last year I played numerous decks, and I realy want to focus myself on 1 deck. Grinding it for the comming months(year).
I own like €575 in paper cards and 250 tix on mtgo. I can sell modo and start a manatraders account. I have the financial funds to do so.
But now the choice of deck:
Burn
Infect
Affinity
E-Tron
Those are on the top of the list. I need a deck that I can master, and I can keep focus on. It needs some depth and some skill to play.
I guy I test with ran this last weekend:
Combo
4 Kitchen Finks
3 Viscera Seer
3 Vizier of Remedies
4 Devoted Druid
2 Duskwatch Recruiter
1 Rhonas, the Indomitable
Spells
4 Collected Company
4 Chord of Calling
2 Postmortem Lunge
Other Creatures
4 Birds of Paradise
2 Tidehollow Sculler
1 Sin Collector
2 Eternal Witness
1 Fiend Hunter
1 Scavenging Ooze
I see you play 0 PtE in the board. Why choose for that in the current meta?
How did two Viscera ran for you. I my guess, seer is the worst card in the deck tho. I was thinking about including Anafenza to, multiple reasons. When vizier gets surgicaled you still have a out and it is a instant win with the life combo.
First I will talk about some card choices. I had a hard time choosing for the right configuration of the deck. The doubt was about Old Coco or the new Vizier build. I have some experience with both, but after discussions in my playgroup I went for the Vizier Druid combo, just to be faster and more consistent on turn 3 and 4.
Mainboard I play a Renegade Rallier for science. But I boarded him out a lot. Never seen him in my games throughout the tournament. Fiend Hunter is a nice addition, but I don’t know if I want him in the mainboard. Preboard games must be fast. But I know I need some removal in the main, so I think I keep playing him in that spot. Tireless Tracker is leaving to the board. I think I will play a Spellskite/Selfless Spirit in that spot.
The matches:
Round 1 vs. Abzan Midrange
Game 1:
I kept my seven and he did to. Turn 1 thoughtseize and he saw I had the combo. So he went to his aggro plan. I killed him with his guard down.
Game 2:
He surgicaled away my Devoted Druid and we went both to beatdown plans. He had some hard time with Mirran Crusader but in the end I was at 1 life and he at 3. He topdecked his fourth land for his MOOOOEEEEEEEE and I died.
Game 3:
I started with fetch, go. He plays a tapped dual. I draw. Fetch, land druid.
He plays Goyf. I play land chord for Vizier, and he dies. GG
1-0 overall
Round 2 vs. BantB Vizier
Game 1:
He had triple Queller for all my pieces and beated me to death.
Game 2 and 3 went the same for me. Turn 3 kills because he went for his valueplans.
2-0 overall
Round 3 vs. Slivers
Game 1:
She went for some crazy slivers with 0 backup removal. I went to 5.000.000.000 life and she started to attack me with Mutavault and Slivers. I told her, oké I go to 4.999.999.984. She scooped.
Game 2:
Was a grindy game, he had the path for my Eidolon and I drew to much lands.
Game 3:
Read game 1.
4-0 overall.
Round 5 vs. Jund
Draw
Round 6 vs. GR Ramp
Draw because we had a clean cut I was 1st.
The quarter final vs. Todd Stevens valuetown.deck
Game 1:
He went for his valueplan with 2 path backup. But I combo’ed turn 6.
Game 2:
His deck did what it does best, with again 2 paths for the backup. I made a mistake for not using my Ooze on his Ghost Quarter, bit of a misplay from my side.
Game 3:
Needed to mul, and drew the worst part of the deck. With 5 activations of duskwatch I found 1 bird. So that says it, I lost the qf there.
Overall impression:
I love the build, it does what Coco does best. Combo fast with a small backup plan. I still think I need to make some slight changes in the list. I want some protection in my mainboard, probably Spellskite.
And the board needs some attention tho.
Right now I am building my list for the PPTQ next sunday. I expect 25% GDS, so keep that in mind.
I am starting with the following cards:
4 Kitchen Finks
2 Viscera Seer
2 Anafenza, Kin Tree
2 Vizier of Remedies
1 Murderous Redcap
Combo package, I was thinking about 3 Vizier 1 Anafenza just for the following thing.
4 Birds of Paradise
2 Noble Hierarch
2 Wall of Roots / Devoted Druid
I could go with two Druid and three Vizier still in the list. But I can't immidiatly win with infi mana, so ill guess I stick with Wall's and a 2/2 Split.
I am finding myself doubting the deck tho. If I scroll down on mtggoldfish and looking throughout the t1 decks, I think. Megh, Megh, doable, badddd, Megh.
By taking this deck to a gp, or pptq or forinstance a ptq, what are the matchups you pray for that are in the top tier decks? And is there a way to build it that makes matches as GDS better matchups?
True, affinity is the ‘best’ tier 1 deck I guess. But it goes down to specific hate tho. Burn aswell.
But you guys do not mention E-Tron, this deck no good anymore?
Infect is on it’s way back indeed, but I have got the same feeling about it. Do not know if it is good enough.
I am a bit lost in modern right now. Been playing last pptq season: Abzan and Counters Company. After deciding I needed to play more modo(mtgo) I sold my Abzan to play paper and modo the same time.
I started my journey with UR Gifts Storm. Deck is good, but there is so much hate and I feel I am not the player for the deck.
Last year I played numerous decks, and I realy want to focus myself on 1 deck. Grinding it for the comming months(year).
I own like €575 in paper cards and 250 tix on mtgo. I can sell modo and start a manatraders account. I have the financial funds to do so.
But now the choice of deck:
Burn
Infect
Affinity
E-Tron
Those are on the top of the list. I need a deck that I can master, and I can keep focus on. It needs some depth and some skill to play.
Thanks for the intell
I am currently playing storm but not feeling confidant playing that type of deck.
Lazy ^^
What islands do you guys use?
Combo
4 Kitchen Finks
3 Viscera Seer
3 Vizier of Remedies
4 Devoted Druid
2 Duskwatch Recruiter
1 Rhonas, the Indomitable
Spells
4 Collected Company
4 Chord of Calling
2 Postmortem Lunge
Other Creatures
4 Birds of Paradise
2 Tidehollow Sculler
1 Sin Collector
2 Eternal Witness
1 Fiend Hunter
1 Scavenging Ooze
Lands
4 Windswept Heath
4 Verdant Catacombs
1 Marsh Flats
2 Temple Garden
1 Overgrown Tomb
1 Godless Shrine
2 Forest
1 Plains
1 Swamp
2 Horizon Canopy
1 Razorverge Thicket
3 Gavony Township
Less one mana dorks because the focus is on the 2 drop. Thoughts?
How did two Viscera ran for you. I my guess, seer is the worst card in the deck tho. I was thinking about including Anafenza to, multiple reasons. When vizier gets surgicaled you still have a out and it is a instant win with the life combo.
Sin Collector over Tidehollow?
The deck list I took with me to the PPTQ:
4 Bird of Paradise
2 Noble Hierarch
4 Devoted Druid
4 Vizier of Remedies
4 Kitchen Finks
1 Viscera Seer
1 Walking Ballista
4 Eternal Witness
1 Renegade Rallier
1 Scavenging Ooze
2 Duskwatch Recruiter
1 Fiend Hunter
1 Tireless Tracker
4 Chord of Calling
4 Collected Company
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
2 Temple Garden
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Godless Shrine
2 Gavony Township
2 Horizon Canopy
3 Forest
1 Plains
1 Razorverge Thicket
3 Path to Exile
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Maelstrom Pulse
2 Mirran Crusader
1 Eidolon of Rhetoric
1 Selfless Spirit
1 Pharika, God of Affliction
1 Kataki, War’s Wage
1 Orzhov Pontiff
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Qasali Pridemage
First I will talk about some card choices. I had a hard time choosing for the right configuration of the deck. The doubt was about Old Coco or the new Vizier build. I have some experience with both, but after discussions in my playgroup I went for the Vizier Druid combo, just to be faster and more consistent on turn 3 and 4.
Mainboard I play a Renegade Rallier for science. But I boarded him out a lot. Never seen him in my games throughout the tournament. Fiend Hunter is a nice addition, but I don’t know if I want him in the mainboard. Preboard games must be fast. But I know I need some removal in the main, so I think I keep playing him in that spot. Tireless Tracker is leaving to the board. I think I will play a Spellskite/Selfless Spirit in that spot.
The matches:
Round 1 vs. Abzan Midrange
Game 1:
I kept my seven and he did to. Turn 1 thoughtseize and he saw I had the combo. So he went to his aggro plan. I killed him with his guard down.
Sideboard:
In: 1 qasali pridemage 2 mirran 1 decay 1 path 1 pulse
Out: 2 noble 1 rallier (path’s obvious) 1 bird 1 tracker 1 chord
Game 2:
He surgicaled away my Devoted Druid and we went both to beatdown plans. He had some hard time with Mirran Crusader but in the end I was at 1 life and he at 3. He topdecked his fourth land for his MOOOOEEEEEEEE and I died.
Game 3:
I started with fetch, go. He plays a tapped dual. I draw. Fetch, land druid.
He plays Goyf. I play land chord for Vizier, and he dies. GG
1-0 overall
Round 2 vs. BantB Vizier
Game 1:
He had triple Queller for all my pieces and beated me to death.
Sideboard:
In: 3 Pte pontiff decay linvala
Out: 1 Chord ooze tracker 1 finks 1 witness
Game 2 and 3 went the same for me. Turn 3 kills because he went for his valueplans.
2-0 overall
Round 3 vs. Slivers
Game 1:
She went for some crazy slivers with 0 backup removal. I went to 5.000.000.000 life and she started to attack me with Mutavault and Slivers. I told her, oké I go to 4.999.999.984. She scooped.
Sideboard:
In: 1 pte 1 decay 1 pulse
Out: ooze fiend hunter rallier
Game 2:
Kept a risky hand, she kills me on t4.
Game 3:
Turn 3 kill. GG
3-0 overall
Round 4 vs. Storm. This was my win and in. We had 42 players so with 4-0 I could draw twice or draw and play for seatings.
Game 1:
I turn 3 him, if I had not done that, he would killed me the turn after.
Sideboard:
In: Eidolon 2 pte 1 decay
Out: fiend, rallier, tracker, finks
Game 2:
Was a grindy game, he had the path for my Eidolon and I drew to much lands.
Game 3:
Read game 1.
4-0 overall.
Round 5 vs. Jund
Draw
Round 6 vs. GR Ramp
Draw because we had a clean cut I was 1st.
The quarter final vs. Todd Stevens valuetown.deck
Game 1:
He went for his valueplan with 2 path backup. But I combo’ed turn 6.
Game 2:
His deck did what it does best, with again 2 paths for the backup. I made a mistake for not using my Ooze on his Ghost Quarter, bit of a misplay from my side.
Game 3:
Needed to mul, and drew the worst part of the deck. With 5 activations of duskwatch I found 1 bird. So that says it, I lost the qf there.
Overall impression:
I love the build, it does what Coco does best. Combo fast with a small backup plan. I still think I need to make some slight changes in the list. I want some protection in my mainboard, probably Spellskite.
And the board needs some attention tho.
4 Birds of Paradise
2 Noble Hierarch
4 Devoted Druid
4 Vizier of Remedies
4 Kitchen Finks
1 Viscera Seer
1 Walking Ballista
4 Eternal Witness
1 Renegade Rallier
2 Duskwatch Recruiter
1 Tireless Tracker
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Fiend Hunter
4 Chord of Calling
4 Collected Company
4 Windswept Heath
2 Temple Garden
2 Overgrown Tomb
1 Godless Shrine
2 Gavony Township
2 Horizon Canopy
1 Razorverge Thicket
3 Forest
1 Plains
3 Path to Exile
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Maelstrom Pulse
2 Mirran Crusader
1 Orzhov Pontiff
1 Kataki, War's Wage
1 Aven Mindcensor
1 Eidolon of Rhetoric
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Qasali Pridemage
1 Selfless Spirit
1 Pharika, God of Affliction
I want to give Rallier a try in the deck. Right now as a 1-off, if I like him< I might go to 2. In that case I can shave a Witness tho.
I'll post how the day has gone for me later.
I am starting with the following cards:
4 Kitchen Finks
2 Viscera Seer
2 Anafenza, Kin Tree
2 Vizier of Remedies
1 Murderous Redcap
Combo package, I was thinking about 3 Vizier 1 Anafenza just for the following thing.
4 Birds of Paradise
2 Noble Hierarch
2 Wall of Roots / Devoted Druid
I could go with two Druid and three Vizier still in the list. But I can't immidiatly win with infi mana, so ill guess I stick with Wall's and a 2/2 Split.
22/23 Lands
4 Verdant Catacombs
4 Windswept Heath
2 Overgrown Tomb
2 Temple Garden
1 Godless Shrine
2 Horizon Canopy
2 Gavony Township
1 Razorverge Thicket
2 Forest
1 Plains
1/2 Ghost Quarter
I choose for the Ghost Quarter because I want Knight and Rallier in my deck. Right now we have 41/42 slots filled.
4 Collected Company
4 Chord of Calling
So we have 10-11 slots left to fill in. Here is where I want to push myself. What do I want?
2 Voice of Resurgence
2 Eternal Witness
2 Renegade Rallier
2 Knight of the Reliquary
So 2/3 left...
I realy want to give Mirran Crusader a change in my deck. SB or MB?
Do I need the slots for Tracker, Ooze, Fiend Hunter?
Do I need the slots for Paths?
Sideboard:
Possibilities:
Aven Mindcensor
Eidolon of Rhetoric
Mirran Crusader
Scavenging Ooze
Tireless Tracker
Kataki, War's Wage
Pharika, God of Affliction
Linvala, Keeper of Silence
Orzhov Pontiff
Qasali Pridemage
Selfless Spirit
Spellskite
Yixlid Jailer
Ghost Quarter
Bojuka Bogg
Tidehollow Sculler
Reclamation Sage
Path to Exile
Abrupt Decay
Maelstrom Pulse
Any thoughts??
By taking this deck to a gp, or pptq or forinstance a ptq, what are the matchups you pray for that are in the top tier decks? And is there a way to build it that makes matches as GDS better matchups?