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  • posted a message on Secret Lair - International Women's Day 2020
    Virtue signaling product, over priced, and keep in mind Wizards even gets a tax rebates, off of your money. Sucks to keep seeing crap like this. The other ones probably have 80% profit on them at $40 so $32 profit. They are charging $50 on this one, so $40 gross - $25 so $15 net. Let's say they get a $2.5 tax break per $25 donation. Seems a bit high. Even if they don't make the money back in tax breaks. They can make more money through shame buying. Even if it's only for a short period of time. It's a really hard gimmick to get behind when the charity "The girl scouts" is a luxury. When they could have donated money to something else that is needed. But they aren't really donating, you are if you buy this.

    I might get back to the rest of stuff I wanted to say. But I broke it down enough for now. Judging from the posts above people know what this is.
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  • posted a message on Introducing Jumpstart
    I don't have an issue with this. As long as it's at a normal $90 or cheaper price point per box. I understand why this would be fun. I pack war all of the time with regular magic packs. I must have missed how many boosters were there. Or they didn't say. The only thing I don't like, is how there are so many auxiliary products these days. Clearly they are catering to every possible market niche. From a making money stand point it's smart to put in new cards. From a player stand point the endless number of separate products makes it difficult to keep buying them or even wanting to buy more. We have gone from 4 sets a year to I'm not sure how many products. Are we getting something new every two months now? I think I should probably double count the collectors boosters. Then there are the standard commander decks brawl. I feel the number must have hit 12 products a year. It's probably more than that.
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  • posted a message on Full art Basics from Unsanctioned
    It's just a fun set. The lands look nice. I think they have over done full art basic lands. But there isn't a lot they haven't done at this point. $60. I think a 12 pack of beer and a box of this would make for a fun night. Solid B level product for a weekend of fun.
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  • posted a message on World Championship Weekend promo Crucible of Worlds
    Quote from SonofaBith75 »
    Quote from SpeedGrapher »
    Quote from rowanalpha »
    That card will be supremely expensive if there are only 16 in existence.

    Yeah expensive to someone. I don't like the picture. What would a bidding war even go to? Champs promo mutavault level $500. Not really willing to pay a bunch of money for alternate art stuff. Scalding tarn expedition is $264. I'm sure someone is willing to pay a stupid amount of money. Might as well print out the picture glue them to basic lands and hand them out to everyone that wants one.



    It’s already been established, in multiple posts, that these are not that rare, 16 per event. Why even bother with what you said since it’s not remotely applicable.

    Because I figured there were more than 16 and gave a comparison based on that. Even thought at the time I didn't know 100% that there weren't more. I bothered because, same reason you posted. Magic commenting.
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  • posted a message on World Championship Weekend promo Crucible of Worlds
    Quote from rowanalpha »
    That card will be supremely expensive if there are only 16 in existence.

    Yeah expensive to someone. I don't like the picture. What would a bidding war even go to? Champs promo mutavault level $500. Not really willing to pay a bunch of money for alternate art stuff. Scalding tarn expedition is $264. I'm sure someone is willing to pay a stupid amount of money. Might as well print out the picture glue them to basic lands and hand them out to everyone that wants one.
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  • posted a message on 1/13/20 Bannings
    Quote from Simto »
    Oko is genuinely unfun in commander. Even gets around indestructible. Any good card will have 3 opponents against it. Prophet of Kruphix for example; so it’s not a valid reason. Oko isn’t even tolerable in commander of all formats. It’s just very poor design that I find highly astounding slipped passed play testing, regardless of what excuses they’ve made for it. Just ban it across the board. Even as someone who loves Simic and shirtless men I can’t stand the design of that card to even use it myself. It just feels cheap.

    I feel like Ballista is more likely to get the ban than Heliod. It’s a matter of time. No way that combo is surviving. Heliod will just have to stand out for his intended design, not a combo like that. He’s a well designed white card.


    I'm going to get pissed if they ban Ballista too. It's my favourite card.
    These bannings, other than Oko, are ridiculous and completely miss the mark. Like back when they banned Bridge From Below instead of the big hoe this summer. Incompetent.

    My guess is they're going to wait until they've sold a sufficient amount of Theros packs and then ban ballista. It's all about the mnoney for them. "But they're a company are you saying they can't make money???? lol why are you so stupid??" Of course they can earn money, but you can earn money and still have a brain, some form of integrity and trustworthiness.
    This is ******* ridiculous.


    Yeah I'm pissed about these bans too. They should have banned Urza, not opal. Urza is just too strong. Banning cards for being "unfun" is also stupid. Someone figured out how to make a prison deck in modern that actually worked well and they banned it. I had not even heard of this interaction until the ban list. Oko is the only ban worthy card on the list. Good to know if I ever figure out a good prison style land destruction deck for mondern it's just going to get banned. I really hate what they done with their business model over the past few years. Their Loot boxes and collector boosters, they can stick those up their ***. Imagine being the guy who just lost all of that money. That sucks. That's not me. But I know people who lost a ton of money from this ban.
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  • posted a message on December 16, 2019 Pioneer Banlist
    A least everyone can keep playing Oko, Thief of Crowns in commander and modern. Until it gets banned in modern. Then commander food for all. Merry Christmas! Eat and be Merry.
    Too bad block format doesn't exist anymore. He could get banned there too!
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  • posted a message on Judge Promos starting in 2020
    Meh, I hope they deal these out like candy for this crap. I could say more. But their bad business practices don't seem to matter until sales eventually drop and tournaments stop being run. Which might even be there goal at this point to make magic 100% online. Wizards will have to fund this in some hidden way. O yeah guys we total aren't run by Wizards still.
    RA – Free
    Level 1 – $100
    Level 2 – $200
    Level 3 – $400

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  • posted a message on Seven Secret Lairs in 2019
    Those prices are gross for the cards contained with in. No doubt the card board crack addicts will be buying them. Wizards getting me less interested in spending money all of the time on magic cards. Spending money on $32 video game I'll spend more than a month of time on confirmed at this point. Now if I can find away around getting taxed on it. That would be nice.
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  • posted a message on 11/18/19 Big Bannings
    Oko, Thief of Crowns The loyalty is just way too high for a design at 3 mana. 6 or 5 when it comes into play and plus it. Their targeted hate in standard wasn't good enough dealing only 5 damage. Fry
    You could make a instant, 2 mana, deal 6 damage to target legendary permanent.
    The problem they have created is fairly consistent. Lack of answers for large threats creature or planeswalker. In red, green, and white.
    If I can boomerang or Thoughtseize. Then Oblivion Ring seems slow in comparison. I think there is more color specific red. I can't find something with target planeswalker at 2 mana that would be effective. Even at 3 mana I'm not sure what would be effective. There are a ton of 3 mana creature grab effects. Just like other posters I'm not sure what greens going to do either.
    Green could be Collector Ouphe change it to planeswalkers. Prior to planeswalkers green had an ok solution of fog for creatures. I do also think that fight should just be re-made with a another key word. Effects that deal direct damage from a creature without fighting exist. Aggressive Instinct just change the wording to include planeswalkers. Instant fix. But if I can kill a creatures with flying at instant speed for 2 mana.Plummet Why can't I have another narrow card that just says planeswalker? Make it GG sorcery speed.Or if I can do this at 3 mana Crushing Canopy why not say flying creature or planeswalker? Planeswalkers sure unbalanced death touch creatures.

    Other examples
    You could have GG, enchantment, target planeswalker or creature. Enchanted permanent loses all abilities and becomes a 3/3. Seems like green can do that now. Also green can do this Song of the Dryads.
    Red
    R, sorcery, flip a coin, if you win the flip destroy target planeswalker, if you lose the flip take 3 damage.
    2R, sorcery, gain control of target planeswalker until end of turn.
    1R, instant, deal 6 damage to target planeswalker.
    White
    If I can path to exile. I need a path to planeswalker at 1.
    Lots of options. They just need to print something.

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  • posted a message on Pioneer Bannings
    I can't get behind the new format. Bannings or whatever.It really just feels like a lazy modern. Massive cop out to a easy fix of the modern format with $4 masters products and a few more bannings. meh.......... Feels like the junior league. They really should have just brought back extended. Their long term plan is to kill off modern. So we might not have much of a choice with the slow phase out. RIP Vintage, RIP Legacy, and now RIP Modern. Unless Pioneer is just terribly boring to play.
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  • posted a message on A whole bunch of commander products coming.
    That's just way too many products. No thanks. I'll be excited to read the new cards but I'm not a buyer.
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  • posted a message on The Pioneer Format
    Quote from Melkor »
    Quote from leslak »
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    People have already started buying up cards for the format. Siege Rhino went from $1 to $4 two days after the announcement. A lot of high volume buyout gambling is happening right now. Makes me not want to even bother with the format. At this point they can print Pioneer Masters in Summer 2020 or just forget about the format. I also don't feel like playing against Siege Rhino anymore. Everyone was trilled when it was gone.


    prices will stabilize, but i absolutely agree. people in this very thread have complained about the cost to get into modern, and this will be no different in very short order. they can't just go and reprint tons of stuff without adversely effecting standard so they forced themselves yet again into a corner where they won't do anything about the secondary market but it consistently causes a problem because of their approach to reprints


    Every card in pioneer is also in modern. Once they do another modern masters they can reprint pioneer stuff.



    right, because they handled that so well. Remember Tarmogoyf getting the mythic treatment, despite the initial announcement of the new rarity sounding a lot like 'we will not do it to SPECIFICALLY Tarmogoyf type cards'? they will take Modern and Pioneer tournament staples (and not nearly enough of either) put anything with real value at mythic, and put them in $7-10 packs with a bunch of chaff that not even the drafters are happy to see. they discontinued the Masters series because aside from the last hurrah of Ultimate, they ran it into the ground through poor implementation, and Modern still has a bunch of cards approaching or exceeding $100 apiece. and most of the problem cards are from sets with relatively lower print runs. I am skeptical about anything in this new format holding a high price, but Wizards can't really fix it if something does. say a card from BFZ skyrockets, TKS perhaps. if that absurd print run didn't provide us with enough copies, a Masters set won't be able to touch it. idk what the print run numbers of ANY set was, but I would wager that even after multiple Masters set reprints, there are still fewer copies of Tarmogoyf in the world than a given BFZ mythic. they need to go back to real reprints in core sets


    It's hard for me to imagine them doing a Full 100% reprint core set anymore. It can be the Pioneer core set.It would be really easy to sell. Just as easy to promote. Pioneer Origins. You power up standard for one cycle. Hard print everything. Then they can keep putting 1-5 re-prints in normal sets after that like they already have been doing. $4 a pack, no one complains. It would be great. Promo Jace, Vryn's Prodigy. They need to stop feeding us this design bs. You can print anything you want in a core set. That would positively effect stores and players. You can even down grade rares to uncommon if there isn't enough room. There is plenty of room at uncommon for rares that can be down graded. Cards that cost 6+ mana can be reprinted at uncommon. You know cards that were going to be printed anyway such as Palisade Giantor Sphinx of the Chimes. It would power up the set a little bit. Then you just have to print powered up removal as well.
    Uncommon
    W
    Sorcery
    Exile target create.
    The only draw back is that it is sorcery speed.
    Innocent Blood
    G
    Name: Grow Roots
    Enchantment
    Target create loses all abilities and gains defender.
    Blue
    unsummon
    R
    Instant
    Discard a card. Deal x damage to target create. Where x is the discarded cards converted mana cost.
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  • posted a message on The Pioneer Format
    People have already started buying up cards for the format. Siege Rhino went from $1 to $4 two days after the announcement. A lot of high volume buyout gambling is happening right now. Makes me not want to even bother with the format. At this point they can print Pioneer Masters in Summer 2020 or just forget about the format. I also don't feel like playing against Siege Rhino anymore. Everyone was trilled when it was gone.
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  • posted a message on The Pioneer Format
    Quote from DJK3654 »
    Quote from SpeedGrapher »
    Quote from ed06288 »
    Isn't Fabled Passage gonna see heavy play? And that's sorta a fetchland. I was hoping the format wouldn't have heavy shuffling effects. Now it feels like a way to rotate out khans fetchlands or something, i don't know.

    Do we even have enough players for this format? It's hard enough to fire modern sometimes.

    No there aren't enough players. That's the thing that wizards doesn't get. Attendance is going down. A lot of people have moved on to cheaper hobbies.

    Do you seriously think WotC knows less about attendance numbers than you, a random person on the internet? Because, no. Maybe attendance numbers will be a problem- I don't know, I haven't looked at the data- but if they do, it won't be because WotC is making this decision in ignorance of attendance numbers.


    Yes I do know more about attendance numbers than Wizards of the Coast. I know more about Magic The Gathering than employees at Wizards. There are huge areas of low attendance around me. I've seen the player base decline for years. Return to Ravnica was the player pool height and it's been dropping since then. That's why they printed Ravnica 3 and are going to print Zendikar 3. Again, yes, I do know more about magic than Wizards does.
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