Did anyone notice that they aren't doing two releases in the Fall of 2023 like they did for Midnight Hunt/Crimson Vow and Dom United/Brothers' War?
I guess having two sets so close to each other was bad for gameplay and business. So Eldraine II in Fall of 2023 with Ixalan early 2024 rather than Sept. 2023 and Nov. 2023. EDIT: Looks like they moved that around to the Spring 2023...hmm.
ALSO I love what they did with the March of the Machine by having an aftermath set. Kinda like what Odyssey was to Apocalypse after the OG invasion. Wish they'd have done that with War of the Spark...
BUT HELL YEAH RETURN TO ELDRAINE AND IXALAN. Squee is bonkers. I can see that alongside the hobgoblin thing from AFR in Historic.
This is going to be interesting. I may blow a paycheque on this set.
Ajani and Jhoira
I can't even say the 6/4 split is all that shocking, either; but what I find kind of lame is that now Selesnya and Dimir still need to wait until the next set to have their Painlands in Pioneer.
Also, I love the art on these borderless Painlands. Been really loving borderless lands lately, and this will only make the trend continue.
I love this new take on Braids. It's a throwback to the punishermechanic from Odyssey block and Braids. A potential mini-Torment of Hailfire-esque ability—a Botherance of Raincinders, if you will.
Whenever you cast a Kobold spell, you may pay 2. If you do, create a 4/4 red Dragon creature
token with flying.
Whenever you cast a Dragon spell, create a 0/1 red Kobold creature token named Kobolds of Kher Keep.
4/4
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Sphinx of Clear Skies 3UU
Creature — Sphinx
Flying, Ward 2
Domain — Whenever Sphinx of Clear Skies deals combat damage to a player, reveal
the top X cards of your library, where X is the number of basic land types among lands
you control. An opponent separates those cards into two piles. Put one pile into your hand
and the other into your graveyard.
While this card is potentially fake, WotC has had named art in videos and other media a number of times before that aren't necessarily cards with those names. It could be art of another card, artwork for a poster or some other media, etc. Personally, Sheoldred, the Apocalypse doesn't sound like the name they'd give a praetor; but it could be. Urabrask is the only praetor to date with a card name including a single word epithet in Urabrask the Hidden.
All others, including the newest Urabrask have two-name epithets: (or three including prepositional phrases ;))
I think it’s more likely for curse of the swine just destroy instead of exile and it’s phyrexians tokens instead of pigs
And its just called Compleat. Honestly, I'm curious as to what their idea of a mass destroy in blue is, considering they keep saying they aren't going to do it, anymore. I thought it'd be more likely we'd see Cyclonic Rift, again.
What if "a character players have been requesting get a card for years finally gets one" and "Legendary Creature - Frog Beast" are the same? Anurids from Odyssey block were Frog Beasts, and Ambassador Laquatus had one named Turg. Laquatus was a Merfolk Wizard, too. Maybe he's the legendary Phyrexian Merfolk Wizard. Plus: I'd love to see Brushhooper get a reprint. Mystic Enforcer would be fun, too.
Everytime I see Legendary Demon in the context of Phyrexia, I want it to be Gix. I've waited over 20 years for it. Please let it be Gix. I also hope we get some sort of negator or obliterator.
Maybe "exile each nonland permanent with mana value 2 or less" could be the
I think these would be a great reprint and will likely happen. People were upset they weren't reprinted when we came back to Dominaria last time, as the Allied painlands aren't legal in Pioneer. While the Allied fastlands are also missing from Pioneer, we'd have to go back to New Phyrexia for that to be a possibility.
My running theory is that we get the Allied painlands in Dominaria United, the allied colors representing unity—although I suppose the enemy colors coming together during an invasion could also represent unity. Then in the Brothers' War, Karn or Teferi or someone travel's back to the time of Urza and Mishra and we get the enemy painlands. Then maybe it all culminates in Lacrosse—the Winter 2023 set, where they have to take the fight back to New Phyrexia to deal with everything the Praetors had amassed, which could possibly let the allied fastlands into Pioneer, finally.
Granted this is all wishful thinking, but I want those lands in Pioneer.
While I don't pay much attention to the commander side of things, both of those seem like decent selections for #4.
Of the two, though, Opposition Agent and Hullbreacher seem to be the likely candidates, though with the banning of Hullbreacher I'm not sure if they want to venture down that route, depending on which colour they opt to honour here.
'buster
Maybe something more like Crafty Cutpurse, in that it deals with tokens. Although CC has been a complete house where I play since nearly every player has at least one deck with Dockside Extortionist in it.
This is why we can't have nice things. This thread is a vitriolic mess. Discuss the artwork or the cards selected, but keep politics and hate out of these forums. There is no reason to act this way, and this thread is an example of terrible behavior. This thread is locked. No more discussion on this topic. I will be combing the thread and determining next steps based on reports and violations.
I am unlocking the thread and watching it. Keep the discussion based on the cards and the art. Thoughtful posts about inclusion and community are allowed, but any further vitriol or ad hominem attacks will be appropriately moderated. Be kind to one another.
So some have heard about the Michael Lynch/IHYD situation (NOT HERE TO DICUSS THIS).
I chimed in on the discussion about it that Buzzfeed is run by a bunch of SJW's and that many have left Buzzfeed for it's toxic environment. So by either calling out Buzzfeed and calling them SJW's (why is that now a bad-word acronym???) or by linking a video compilation of prior employees of Buzzfeed explaining why they left. It was relevant, in a way, because it's not the first time Buzzfeed brought out of the woodwork an old article to slander another's name just for the clicks. I had also called out in my response how cancel culture is moving society in the wrong, dark direction that is getting worse and worse.
So what happened? I was given the boot from the subreddit. Did a mod talk w/ me first? No. Did a mod tell me I'm on subreddit probation? No. Did I get a 1 day/week/month temp ban? No. Just a straight up "GTFO!"
Well, I'll just have to make another avatar and start from scratch in the subreddit. But really, what's going on there? Is it like the cancel culture of the rest of the world? Cancel the norm-breaker? Censor thought? Are we heading into an era where the "Thought Police" will control what we say & type?
Man, dystopia sucks...
Firstly, let me say this: this isn't really the place to go to complain about what happened on another platform. This isn't really a Magic discussion so much as it is a rant about how platforms are run. I won't speak to that specific subreddit, as it is not my responsibility; but in general, using incendiary words or touching on controversial topics will likely have negative consequences in some form—that's basically the internet. As for the term `SJW`, it's a volatile word in most public discussions, as I'm sure you know. The issue is, whether your mean it negatively or not, it can be taken negatively by a large number of people, and as moderators we are tasked with keeping discussions on topic and under control. Incendiary words do the opposite.
Reddit doesn't even feel like a Message Board Forum when it's really just a platform for people with short attention spans who don't have time to read walls of text much like the rest of Social Media that reward that kind of bad behavior such as Facebook and Tik Tok for example. YouTube on the other hand has at least made an honest effort for constructive criticism since content creators can convey what they say more in a video than posting in the comment section. That's more than I can say about Twitch which is really for a niche group of content creators that would get shutdown by YouTube on the spot.
I feel as though this thread has less to do about MTG and more about how Cancel Culture is steering society in the wrong direction especially after what happened at the Oscars with Will Smith and Chris Rock recently. I do however believe that the MTG community as a whole has been divided for some time now yet at the same time not as much with more players putting aside their differences and enjoy playing MTG which is what we should be doing. What I'm tired of are MTG players who easily get ensnared into scandals due to mistakes they've made in the past where their Internet history is used against them.
This thread definitely has little to actually do with MTG. Unfortunately the nature of the internet is that anything you type is forever recorded in the public record. Hopefully, it's a lesson people will eventually learn. We can't do anything about people accepting or not accepting someone's apology.
Moderation that turns into massive censorship is all so common now a days.
For some thats the "solution" , if a topic is even remotely controversial, dont discuss it, dont allow to discuss it, and dont allow to discuss it even in a context to the game the very forum/website is made for.
Its quite sad, and if people get in "power" (any form of moderation really), it can turn ugly very quickly, and it really becomes extremely unwelcoming.
If people dont value to share their thoughts, its either their way or the highway ... and thats the death of any communication culture.
People feel "Offended" by things that are not offensive at all, just to not have to talk about it, or in their view "win" the argument, by simply not having the discussion and quite literally "cancel" the other from having a discussion.
If you get rational people together and talk, thats great, you get more viewpoints, you get insight you wouldnt get on your own.
With some mild exceptions, MTGSalvation at least NOW managed to basically only moderate the absolute necessary, and that works out quite well.
If its too extreme on either side, moderation fosters a echo chamber and people have to self-censor, or get censored.
Theres gab.com and Twitter alternative social media platform and people are outright "shocked" if they see proper free speech for the first time, thoughts like "Oh god, he is allowed to say that?" , yes, they are.
Today, there are a bunch of topics that you simply are not allowed to talk about at social media, its simply forbidden and punished if you dare to.
Frankly, its OK if a website makes very clear cuts to stay "on topic" for a specific context, like this is for Magic, so it should be related to Magic and if it gets too wild, theres other places to continue (might be just PMs or outright other platforms that allow open debates, which are rare today, as most platforms have a very censor heavy approach).
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At this point a lot of communities split into multiple different groups and as long as each is happy, so be it.
That open discussion is kinda seen as "bad" is very frustrating and really leads to all kinds of issues we have in real life too, as people get used to simply ignoring their issues, ban anybody they dont agree with and see their view as the only option, anybody else must be "evil".
Its much more healthy to at least try to get an idea what the others viewpoint is, but that requires that you get to say what your viewpoint is, without punishment to do so.
Works quite well for the most part to get some laughs.
Again, I can't speak for people in other forums or platforms; but I think something people don't take into consideration is that we have a job as moderators-to keep things civil and on-topic. When I log on, and I see 5 reports for the same post because at least 5 people got offended by something, or its off-topic, or the thread quickly devolved into ad hominem attacks, it has to be moderated to return the forum to a neutral state. This isn't a political site; and it shouldn't be used as such. This should be a place for people excited about Magic to come discuss the game.
You do realize that social media platforms, any online platform for that matter, are not the open public arena. Online communities are privately owned and controlled, and as such are not beholden to allow anyone “free speech”.
You are free to start your own community space with whatever rules you wish. You are free to start your own platforms and online spaces.
Opinions, everyone has the right to them but you cannot expect anyone to care or listen.
Privately held spaces have no legal requirement to allow free speech, you get that in the actual public arena. And if you all think “cancel culture” is some new thing then you all must be new to the universe because people have been trying to silence others since the dawn of time. It’s just easier when everyone does it online.
I don’t understand why the OP would want to rejoin any community where they’re not welcome. Just go find a group of like minded people to interact with. Or, here me out, don’t discuss non-MTG topics on a MTG platform. Ain’t nothing you have to say that’s going to change anyone’s life or that matters in any meaningful way. Besides most people’s opinions are formulated from a piss poor epistemology, instead of opinions try using verifiable facts.
An to prove my point, watch my post get “censored” for some nonsensical reason. I’m surprised the OP didn’t catch flak for using the pejorative “SJW”. This forum in notorious for condemning anyone from even mentioning it. Maybe since they’ve lost half their readership to Nexus they’ve lightened up, LOL.
You were doing so well, but then you had to throw in the `challenge` not to censor you. Comments like that aren't helpful to anyone. Just keep your post on topic and act in good faith, and there won't be any need to censor anyone.
This thread is getting locked because it's not a discussion that should be had here. This is not a place to come and rant about being banned from another platform. In general, if everyone follows the rules, plays nice, and stops peppering in terms known to be volatile there shouldn't be any issues. When you intentionally break rules or try to skirt the rules to prove a point, that's when moderation has to take place.
I can't even say the 6/4 split is all that shocking, either; but what I find kind of lame is that now Selesnya and Dimir still need to wait until the next set to have their Painlands in Pioneer.
Also, I love the art on these borderless Painlands. Been really loving borderless lands lately, and this will only make the trend continue.
Rohgahh, Kher Keep Overlord 3BR
Legendary Creature — Kobold Warrior Rare
Other Kobolds you control get +2/+2.
Whenever you cast a Kobold spell, you may pay 2. If you do, create a 4/4 red Dragon creature
token with flying.
Whenever you cast a Dragon spell, create a 0/1 red Kobold creature token named Kobolds of Kher Keep.
4/4
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Sphinx of Clear Skies 3UU
Creature — Sphinx
Flying, Ward 2
Domain — Whenever Sphinx of Clear Skies deals combat damage to a player, reveal
the top X cards of your library, where X is the number of basic land types among lands
you control. An opponent separates those cards into two piles. Put one pile into your hand
and the other into your graveyard.
5/5
All others, including the newest Urabrask have two-name epithets: (or three including prepositional phrases ;))
I could see the Sheoldred, the Apocalypse art being a board wipe or something, too; but it might in fact be the name of the card...who knows?
And its just called Compleat. Honestly, I'm curious as to what their idea of a mass destroy in blue is, considering they keep saying they aren't going to do it, anymore. I thought it'd be more likely we'd see Cyclonic Rift, again.
Maybe "exile each nonland permanent with mana value 2 or less" could be the
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1 Adarkar Wastes
1 Battlefield Forge
1 Brushland
1 Caves of Koilos
1 Karplusan Forest
1 Llanowar Wastes
1 Shivan Reef
1 Sulfurous Springs
1 Underground River
1 Yavimaya Coast
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1 Adarkar Wastes
1 Brushland
1 Karplusan Forest
1 Sulfurous Springs
1 Underground River
Enemy
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1 Battlefield Forge
1 Caves of Koilos
1 Llanowar Wastes
1 Shivan Reef
1 Yavimaya Coast
I think these would be a great reprint and will likely happen. People were upset they weren't reprinted when we came back to Dominaria last time, as the Allied painlands aren't legal in Pioneer. While the Allied fastlands are also missing from Pioneer, we'd have to go back to New Phyrexia for that to be a possibility.
My running theory is that we get the Allied painlands in Dominaria United, the allied colors representing unity—although I suppose the enemy colors coming together during an invasion could also represent unity. Then in the Brothers' War, Karn or Teferi or someone travel's back to the time of Urza and Mishra and we get the enemy painlands. Then maybe it all culminates in Lacrosse—the Winter 2023 set, where they have to take the fight back to New Phyrexia to deal with everything the Praetors had amassed, which could possibly let the allied fastlands into Pioneer, finally.
Granted this is all wishful thinking, but I want those lands in Pioneer.
Maybe something more like Crafty Cutpurse, in that it deals with tokens. Although CC has been a complete house where I play since nearly every player has at least one deck with Dockside Extortionist in it.
I was thinking of suspend, as well, but when it was cast from suspend it would only deal two damage. Was that your intention?
It'd probably have to be templated like the original Suspend X cards from Planar Chaos.
Maybe something like:
Delayed Fireball Blast XR
Sorcery
~ deals X damage to any target.
Suspend X — XRR. X can't be 0.
Whenever a time counter is removed from ~ while it's exiled, ~ deals 2 damage to any target.
Basically trading in time for doubling the damage of X.
Maybe instead of shocking any target, it could also deal 1 damage to each opponent.
This thread is a vitriolic mess. Discuss the artwork or the cards selected, but keep politics and hate out of these forums. There is no reason to act this way, and this thread is an example of terrible behavior. This thread is locked. No more discussion on this topic. I will be combing the thread and determining next steps based on reports and violations.I am unlocking the thread and watching it. Keep the discussion based on the cards and the art. Thoughtful posts about inclusion and community are allowed, but any further vitriol or ad hominem attacks will be appropriately moderated. Be kind to one another.
Firstly, let me say this: this isn't really the place to go to complain about what happened on another platform. This isn't really a Magic discussion so much as it is a rant about how platforms are run. I won't speak to that specific subreddit, as it is not my responsibility; but in general, using incendiary words or touching on controversial topics will likely have negative consequences in some form—that's basically the internet. As for the term `SJW`, it's a volatile word in most public discussions, as I'm sure you know. The issue is, whether your mean it negatively or not, it can be taken negatively by a large number of people, and as moderators we are tasked with keeping discussions on topic and under control. Incendiary words do the opposite.
This thread definitely has little to actually do with MTG. Unfortunately the nature of the internet is that anything you type is forever recorded in the public record. Hopefully, it's a lesson people will eventually learn. We can't do anything about people accepting or not accepting someone's apology.
Again, I can't speak for people in other forums or platforms; but I think something people don't take into consideration is that we have a job as moderators-to keep things civil and on-topic. When I log on, and I see 5 reports for the same post because at least 5 people got offended by something, or its off-topic, or the thread quickly devolved into ad hominem attacks, it has to be moderated to return the forum to a neutral state. This isn't a political site; and it shouldn't be used as such. This should be a place for people excited about Magic to come discuss the game.
You were doing so well, but then you had to throw in the `challenge` not to censor you. Comments like that aren't helpful to anyone. Just keep your post on topic and act in good faith, and there won't be any need to censor anyone.
This thread is getting locked because it's not a discussion that should be had here. This is not a place to come and rant about being banned from another platform. In general, if everyone follows the rules, plays nice, and stops peppering in terms known to be volatile there shouldn't be any issues. When you intentionally break rules or try to skirt the rules to prove a point, that's when moderation has to take place.