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  • posted a message on RGx Titanshift
    You should consider Amulet Titan as well, even though it doesn't have Hive Mind anymore. I felt like I would never play it again without Hive Mind; I loved killing with that card! But it is still enjoyable and very strong if you're willing to put in the time. Anyway, Engineered Explosives is a must as a 1 of MB and 1 of SB, so maybe it's not the deck for you right now. I just wanted to throw that out there because it took me a while to enjoy it without Hive Mind, but it still is a contender.

    Your build looks good. I have played the Bogles/Titanshift matchup many times from both sides and I would say that the most important thing is to have Reclamation Sage for their Leyline of Sanctity and a super quick clock. In game 1, it is simply about goldfishing damage and the Scapeshift with 8 lands usually does the trick, even if they've gained some life (Daybreak Coronet). It's usually a tight race and around 50/50 in my experience. Fracturing Gust can definitely help you there and shore up Affinity as well. Seems okay vs. KCI too. Krark-Clan Ironworks on the stack, Fracturing Gust. Yep.

    Roast is mostly for Humans, along with Hollow One, Merfolk, and other creature based decks. Despite our deck looking super good vs. Humans, I've found it to be only slightly over 50/50 and Roast is what gives us the edge.
    Posted in: Big Mana
  • posted a message on RGx Titanshift
    Firstly, this is just my opinion. Get many opinions before you choose.

    As for main deck Relic of Progenitus, I'm actually NOT very sure. I do think you need to hedge against graveyard decks right now, as BridgeVine is the hot ***** currently. It also has applications vs. stuff that we lose to, like KCI, Storm, Grishoalbrand, and many others. It is more of an experiment right now and I don't have time to personally test it. I do know however that it is okay to run some number of Relic of Progenitus main, as I did during Grixis Shadow. At the worst, it is 2 colorless mana to cycle, which admittedly isn't good against quick decks. But you can side it out vs. those and games 2 and 3 are more important anyway. However it is nice to hedge a bit in Game 1.

    Even my area's Bring to Light "Champion" and another guy who ran it often as well have ditched it. Titanshift is just much stronger, but Bring to Light can be much more fun. It just depends on what you are looking for.

    3 Obstinate Baloth is a hedge for GBx and Burn, as well as having a diverse threat. Those others don't do the same thing as Baloth. Thrun is more a hedge vs. Jeskai and a very good one at that. I found it better than Gaea's Revenge in this situation, but it's less flexible in other matchups. Baloth also has the added utility in being amazing in our terrible matchup of Hollow One. Burning Inquiry, oh damn, I have to discard Baloth? Oh noes! The card is just more flexible and when you're facing some odd 8 Rack deck in Round 1, you will be HAPPY that you have 3 Obstinate Baloth. Believe me.
    Posted in: Big Mana
  • posted a message on [Primer] G/W Auras (Bogle)
    I don't like main decking Leyline of Sanctity and not in that meta. You should be somewhat fine against Burn anyway. It's around 65/35 in my experience.

    As for Torpor Orb, you could try Tocatli Honor Guard. It's like a Torpor Orb that you can suit up since it can't be Reflector Maged. Most Humans lists have cut Dismember altogether and even if they do have it, I doubt they side that in vs. you.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    I agree that fetchlands seem like solid pickups. I think that some people are trying to lean harder on quick gainers and then dump them than the slow, grindy gainers, (lol).
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Coldsnap Appreciation Thread (Yes, Really)
    From the beginning, I loved Rune Snag and Rite of Flame the most. But as time went on, I learned to love Dark Depths the most. I probably still love Rite of Flame, but it just is too damn good!
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Modern Humans
    Do you mean that Hollow One (you said BR Aggros) preys on Humans? I found it to be favorable for Humans preboard and very slightly unfavored after board, due to Grim Lavaman and Engineered Explosives (along with some small number of Fatal Push).

    How do you guys feel about the Bant Spirits matchup? It's a deck that I want to hedge against somewhat after seeing a bunch at the PPTQ. I was also considering Elves or Bogles.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Modern Humans
    Yeah, there's no way for you to know all the hands I mulliganed. I actually am way too loose with keeping hands, so mulligans for me literally are unplayable hands or hands that do nothing in the particular matchup (mostly during game 1 if many cards are sided in the other games).

    My teammate basically said that you almost never keep if you have no 1 drop (you have 12 of them). I pretty much stick to this, although if I had a bunch of very good 2 drops against the matchup, I'd keep if it was quick enough (of course depending on the play or draw).

    *But I know that I do loose keeps. It's something that I'm trying to work on. I do believe I've gotten better recently. The toughest ones are like with something else like Abzan Counters where I have the Combo, but only 1 land, and the Combo is literally the only way to beat that particular matchup. I have kept those before, especially on the draw.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on BridgeVine
    Good job guys! I gave up on the deck after 2 PPTQs and an FNM in which I did terribly. Overall I was 7-8-1 with it, ugh. I may try it again at FNM, but variance is really a pain! Are there any streams to watch?
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on Collected Company Elves
    Quote from VIPowL »
    Cheers, liebs!

    Oh man, so close! Hopefully the semis lost can spurr you on to a win this season! By the looks of it you had a really solid day.

    Great job on the W's against UW Control. What sideboard cards helped out in the match-up? Or did a fast draw just get there? Bad luck on the storm pairing, Bogles would've had you feeling confident, especially being on the play. No luck drawing spheres against storm?

    Beating Burn in 2 felt amazing. Granted being on the play helped, I was really happy that on the Saturday I addressed a problem with my sideboard, addressed it, and saw the result the very next day. Feels great to be a problem solver!

    Thoughtseize is a very good card in GB, and really helps out against unfair decks/wrath decks. It's a tough one to lose, but I am just trying to run multiple copies of other impactful non-creature spells (Choke/Leyline/Damping Sphere) to improve our poor match-ups.

    Good luck trying the list, let me know how you go! Cheers mate! Have a few months to go so let's see what the meta looks like come December time!

    Congratulations Owl! I loved the report and how you annihilated the top 8. I don't think I've ever done 6-0 in the top 8 (best I remember was 6-1 and that's suuuuuuper rare). I was planning on that yesterday, but got Infected in the first round of the top 8 to the eventual winner in Infect. Frown

    But after seeing a bunch of Bant Spirits, I feel that Elves may be the way to go. It's way too quick for their Spell Quellers and Companies to be automatically GGs. I am planning on playing a deck I know better and feel safer with this Friday at the GP Los Angeles PTQ, but after that if I don't qualify, I am strongly considering Elves and GB specifically, a deck I've never played myself (always on GW).
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from The Fluff »
    Remorseful Cleric is approximately 10-12 dollars a playset. Is this price coming from Modern or Standard demand? thanks Smile

    I doubt it's from Standard because I don't know where it would be played. The top decks as I've heard of (haven't played now for a while) are Mono Green, Bant Turns, Aetherflux Reservoir, RB, and Esper Control.

    Maybe it's in the Modern Spirits' SB?
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Was there a recent spike on foil Dwynen's Elite? I saw someone on FB selling a play set for $75 shipped, then went to Ebay to find them nearly sold out or terribly high prices. Then I went to some online stores and couldn't find any.

    A lot of times, I find out about spikes recently by someone selling on FB. Why are foil Elves spiking? It's played less and less now.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on GWx Vizier Company
    I think the list is definitely a good baseline. I'm not sure about the main deck Brimaz, King of Oreskos, but as you can see from my report, the Tireless Tracker that I put instead was GAS and won me at least 2 games itself.

    I feel that the SB does need to be changed. Here's what he ran vs. what I ended up going with.



    Here's what I ran.



    I couldn't find a 2nd foil Sin Collector before the tournament, so I would have actually done that, but didn't have access to it. The Abrupt Decay didn't seem necessary. I can understand it for Grafdigger's Cage, but if you are putting 3 of those in for those, it also lowers your Collected Company creature density. Shalai was useless for me. Kor Firewalker was useless for me too, although part of me liked hedging against Burn since I lost to it the day before at a PPTQ with Humans when I drew trash in games 1 and 3. But that probably had more to do with mulligans, drawing trash, and my opponent drawing a lethal burn spell on the final turn when empty handed. It's a problem with me. I hedge against things that happen, even on different decks, because I don't want to lose to it again.

    These are the spots I'm happy with - Voice of Resurgence, Scavenging Ooze, Eidolon of Rhetoric, Path to Exile, and Sin Collector. But...I had previously used Orzhov Pontiff and I still like it as a 1 of. It allows for Chord against decks like Infect and Mardu Pyromancer. Even if the card is terribly bad against some decks, when you side it in, it usually can be a blowout. Also I was surprised that there was no Burrenton Forge-Tender or Selfless Spirit in the side as well. Not sure what to cut, but I think at least Selfless Spirit is necessary because you can often put pressure (but not combo) against sweepers and leave up Chord of Calling for Selfless Spirit if needed.

    There is a stream of my play at twitchtv.com/kingslayergames. It is the August 12, 2018 Modern PPTQ and I have Green KMC Super Sleeves. I did some mistakes again, including playing around Spell Queller too hard. I think in those situations, I need to jam it out so I would have had multiple Devoted Druids out. I would lose to Spell Queller either way, but a top decked Path to Exile would also kill me effectively. I just am wary of jamming cards that make my opponent jam Spell Queller out to shorten the clock. It turned out he had turn 5 double Spell Queller anyway and I didn't draw anything but lands, but that doesn't matter. I need to do the right plays and just 2 weeks ago, I made a similar mistake against Bant Company when I was Bogles, but it allowed me to resolve a Daybreak Coronet that prolonged the game. Alas I never got more than 1 Rancor (he had another Spell Queller) or Spirit Mantle in that one, so I lost, but I felt that I could have lost earlier if I hadn't played around it. But this particular game with Counters Company is different because he already had a winning clock. I assumed I'm draw a single creature before the turn before lethal and have the superior clock. He was at 4 life when he killed me and I had a Kitchen Finks with 3 counters on it and 2 Devoted Druids with 1 counter each.
    Posted in: Combo
  • posted a message on GWx Vizier Company
    54 person PPTQ - 6 rounds. Deck that I ran was Laplasjan's 60 with changes in the SB.

    Round 1 vs. Lantern. Mull to 6. I keep a bad 6, but I get Tireless Tracker, the only card I switched from his 60 instead of Brimaz, which I don't like. I draw fetchland after fetchland and his hand was slow with no Lantern until it was too late. I comboed off and got Noble Hierarchs to swing through the Ensnaring Bridge since Witchbane Orb was also out. In the next game, he does Inquisition of Kozilek. I top deck Kataki the turn after and he has to use Mox Opal to Abrupt Decay the Kataki and lose the Opal and 2 Pithing Needles. He doesn't recover from this as I swing with creatures while doing Gavony Township and finish him off with a Walking Ballista that had been swinging. 2-0.

    Round 2 vs. Tron. One of the friends I drove with. Odd games. We both mull to 6. My hand just cannot find Devoted Druid and O Stone, then Ugin, and finally the nail in Karn finish me off. In the next game, I put a lot of pressure on him quickly with Tireless Tracker on turn 2 and clues and other creatures to finish him off before he could draw anything. In the final game, he kept on 2 Tron lands while I mulled to a solid 6, then he couldn't find a land until a single Ghost Quarter allowed him to cast O Stone. I go all in since I need to put pressure and Vizier wins it for me at any time. I get there. 2-1.

    Round 3 vs. Affinity. He beats me by putting pressure and Galvanic Blast with his last card on my Druid. I did not expect it because he did Thoughtcast the turn before. In the next game, I combo off on turn 3. In the final game, I get an early Gavony Township going and he has a slow hand. I get there as he draws nothing of consequence. 2-1.

    Round 4 vs. Affinity. He gets me in the first game after Galvanic Blast gets my Devoted Druid, then another one gets the next Devoted Druid since his attack would not be exact lethal. He gets me soon thereafter. In the next game, I am able to combo off after he had Grafdigger's Cage, but I did it with the 3 creatures. In the final game, I finally use a Path to Exile, racing 2 Vault Skirge with a growing Kitchen Finks and Devoted Druids from Gavony Township. The Path is enough to push lethal. Plenty of mulls this round, him going to 6, 5, and 5 and me going to 6, 7, and 6. 2-1.

    Round 5 vs. Tron. He is 3-1, so needs to play it out. He only has Worldbreaker and Wurmcoil Engine after turn 3 Tron. I finally find the combo and win. In the next game, he just mulls to 4 and gets stuck on 1 land while I goldfish damage with Gavony Township again. For a 2 of, it sure comes up a lot! Whew! 2-0.

    Round 6 vs. Bant Spirits. He is 4-0-1, so winning makes him the #1 seed and me #2. Both of us make it in the top 8 regardless of the outcome. Turn 1 Hierarch into Mausoleum Wanderer and Supreme Phantom into CoCo into double Lord. My mull to 6 doesn't draw much and loses. In the next game, his hand is not quite gas. I make a mistake of doing Path to Exile on his Hierarch on his upkeep because I assumed he would Spell Queller, then I had an out of drawing Vizier of Remedies to win the following turn. Of course he didn't do it and he had double Quller on turn 5 (Path). He got there with those because 1 Finks getting bigger every turn is not enough. 0-2.

    Top 8 vs. Infect. In the first game, he does turn 1 Glistener Elf. Distortion Strike kills me on his turn 3 while I flounder with a weak 6 card hand. In the next game, it is similar, but his last card in hand after casting double Glistener Elf was NOT Become Immense, which would have won it on Blighted Agent. Got there with creatures. In the next game, he does Dismember on my Devoted Druid. Mind you, his 75 plays 2. Then he does it on a blocker and pushes the Glistener Elf through for lethal. Damn! I actually had the combo this game, but got stuck on 2 land while he abused my creatures. Frown 1-2.

    And my tournament comes to an abrupt end. It turns out that the Round 6 Bant Spirits player was in the finals vs. the Infect player, so one of them got the RPTQ invite.
    Posted in: Combo
  • posted a message on Modern Humans
    I let the salt get out a bit there, lol.

    It seems that I have gotten worse the more Modern I play. Maybe it is not the format where I personally can do better as I play it and many other decks much more. I have come to learn that. I play Combo decks quite often and I am used to tossing hands back much more than my opponent and playing on the draw, but I play decks that I perceive as "consistent" when I'm tired of the 5 card hand grind. I tried Grixis Shadow and I realized that it can be much more inconsistent as Grishoalbrand. I tried Humans now and mulliganed more often than I do with Bogles. OMG Small sample size you know?

    There's 2 ways to look at it. I should stick to 1 deck like I have done usually during PPTQ season before. I know many of the players who have won their respective PPTQs and most of them are not regulars with their decks. Many are very new to Modern and I believe that actually helps! I know 2 players who have won that have been on their decks forever and haven't had this type of success before, so I see that. But I also see someone who played his first PPTQ and ended up beating me in Round 1 due to 4 and 5 card hands out of BridgeVine, which admittedly is glass cannon as ****, but he won the freaking thing! It only had 59 players, but still. That was 58 other players that he was "better than that day." So, I personally feel that sooner or later something will click and I will mulligan not quite as much and get there. Until then, I am having fun with the variance and trying to figure out how to beat my opponents with 5-6 card hands. I could go back to Titanshift. I mulliganed almost the same amount as my opponents, but I would like to do it with another deck now, the decks me qualifying with having been Bogles, Bogles, Grishoalbrand, and Titanshift.
    Posted in: Aggro & Tempo
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