Just posting to say once again.
Glad that Faithless Looting is safe, and not being mentioned in the article.. it's not even in WoTC radar for possible banning. ^___^
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Jan 21, 20191
The Fluff posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 21/01/2019)Posted in: Modern Archives -
Nov 22, 20181
idSurge posted a message on Full Gallery is upPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from cfusionpm »Made this to visualize the value of the set. Took numbers from MTG Goldfish as of today and broke them into 50+, 20-50, 10-20, 5-10, and under 5. On overall value and distribution across the board, UMA has epic value. And from the types of cards included, I don't imagine many of them falling too much further, but we shall see. As it stands (and even after initial drops), this set is incredible and the $20-50 range is MASSIVE.
Link to sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vL2ZX3H5_Vix4aOrMLla2Lza1HMB_8mN7j3aLvPZXZg/edit?usp=sharing
People are going to ignore this, because they would rather complain, but if anyone looks at that graph and still thinks this is 'average'? lol -
Nov 22, 20182
cfusionpm posted a message on Full Gallery is upMade this to visualize the value of the set. Took numbers from MTG Goldfish as of today and broke them into 50+, 20-50, 10-20, 5-10, and under 5. On overall value and distribution across the board, UMA has epic value. And from the types of cards included, I don't imagine many of them falling too much further, but we shall see. As it stands (and even after initial drops), this set is incredible and the $20-50 range is MASSIVE.Posted in: The Rumor Mill
Link to sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vL2ZX3H5_Vix4aOrMLla2Lza1HMB_8mN7j3aLvPZXZg/edit?usp=sharing -
Nov 21, 2018
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cfusionpm posted a message on Ultimate Masters & Box Topper Promos + PSA regarding sealed Box Topper BoostersPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from WarMachinePrime »MM1 993.38 set value as of now on MTGGoldfish. $6.99 MSRP comes in at a ratio of 142.1 to 1
UMA 1772.05 set valus as of now on MTGGoldfish. $13.99 MSRP comes in at a ratio of 126.7 to 1
Where can I buy MM1 for $6.99? Could I ever buy MM1 for $6.99? How many people are buying UMA for $13.99? -
Nov 21, 2018
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cfusionpm posted a message on Ultimate Masters & Box Topper Promos + PSA regarding sealed Box Topper BoostersPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from WarMachinePrime »One sided arguments are pointless. I let mine stand on their own merit. I'll reiterate, Ulitmate Masters is no where near ultimate. An improvement for sure, but when the bar is set so low with Iconic Trashters and MassTurds 25, anything looks better.
Card for card, value for value, Ultimate Masters is holds the highest value and the highest number of value cards compared to any other Masters set. -
Nov 21, 2018
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procobrito posted a message on Ultimate Masters & Box Topper Promos + PSA regarding sealed Box Topper BoostersSorry, but what I'm missing? Looking at UMA shift in Mtggoldfish, for now, there is 94 cards (the 20 mythics, 40 rares, 34 rest)Posted in: The Rumor Mill
Comparing with Modern Masters 1, that has a EV of $400:
MM (254 cards)
cards over $30
4 mythic
5 rares
$20-29.99
1 mythic
4 rares
$10-19.99
1 mythic
9 rares
1 uncommon
uncommon over $5
3
common over $5
1
uncommon $2-4.99
7
common $2-4.99
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UMA (94 cards)
Over $30
13 mythic
11 rares
$20-29.99
3 mythic
6 rares
$10-19.99
3 mythic
8 rares
uncommon over $5
6
common over $5
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uncommon $2-4.99
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common $2-4.99
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Sure, the prices will drop a lot in the next six months, but will start to increase after a year, because there's a lot of cards that retain value.
looking at all cards (except foils) in M25 from the "full spoilers pre order" to now, the value dropped 45% from $937.8 to $517.4. Those 94 cards in MTGgoldfish already worth $1667, even if all the other cards have $0, and the price drop the same as M25, $916,85, witch is the second best value from masters sets, losing to MM1. But UMA isn't M25, there is less Imperial Recruiters and more Modern Staples, and they said there isn't unlimited supply (we can't truly believe in that). Modern Masters 2015 had a decrease of 15% from pre order to now, MM1 and MM17 increased in value.
Looking at those numbers, I can't see how this set is "equal the rest of masters sets, just with a bigger price". -
Nov 7, 20181
Thenarus posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 01/10/2018)Gx Tron does not survive an Ancient Stirrings ban as a competitive deck, as the card is instrumental in fixing mana early, and hitting payoffs later. Cards like Oath of Nissa are worse enough at this job that they wouldn't be able to keep this deck in the running.Posted in: Modern Archives
On a related note...I get that many of you aren't huge fans of the decks running Ancient Stirrings, but it feels disingenuous to aggregate everything playing it to determine unhealthy percentages for ban criteria. KCI, Gx Tron, Scales, Amulet, Lantern, and RG Eldrazi all play differently to a significant enough degree that banning Stiirings would likely have an adverse effect on format diversity, and player (ie customer) confidence. Although several of these decks are top tier, none of them seem to be suppressing overall format diversity. You shouldn't hold your breath waiting for Wizards to ban it, or anything else as the format currently stands. -
Aug 27, 20183
Teysa_Karlov posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/08/2018)Posted in: Modern ArchivesQuote from idSurge »When did you get back from your ban holiday? Clearly you havent been keeping up with my posts.
1. You are correct, I will accept nothing less than an apology from Forsythe regarding Twin. He lied. Wizards was wrong. There is nothing else to be said on it.
2. If you've been paying attention for a year now, I've been saying UWR, UW and to a lesser degree UR, are all perfectly acceptable. My win rates on UR are much higher than would be expected for a 'bad' deck.
3. You'll be back on ignore now, take care.
I've been back for a while. I just never come in here because you and Cfusion have perpetually turned the "Modern Banlist" thread into the "Splinter Twin whine and moan thread occasionally featuring Ensnaring Bridge or Blood Moon". Any topic, no matter what it is, you two turn it into a personal vendetta to gripe about your pet deck.
And for someone claiming that other decks are perfectly acceptable, you sure are willing to bash on Wizards any time any kind of vague nebulous connection to Twin pops up.
I would ignore you too, but if I ignored you and Cfusion, this entire thread would be an bunch of blocked posts, and people responding to the blocked posts. So you've got that going for you. Kudos for that. -
Aug 27, 20182
Shmanka posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/08/2018)Posted in: Modern ArchivesQuote from ktkenshinx »Re: UW Control at the GP
I haven't seen a lot of the ridiculous "failed to convert" argument here, but I did see it on Reddit and it was mentioned on Hoogland's channel last night. I want to get ahead of this uncritical line before it starts. Importantly, although there are no UW Control decks in the T8, the 10th place pilot missed T8 on breakers alone. Moreover, he did this with only one Bye. It's still technically true that he didn't T8. But that is clearly a loaded observation that is secretly, or not so secretly, trying to imply something about UW Control's viability. Don't buy it and don't parrot it around. UW Control had a very strong GP and SCG peeformance, on the backs of repeated strong MTGO performances and a previous strong GP finish. It's the real deal.
Isn't there an argument about how poorly it has performed based on it's Day 2 saturation compared to the rest of the field? -
Aug 12, 20181
Melkor posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices DiscussionPosted in: ModernQuote from Colt47 »Man, I'm really starting to wonder where noble heirarch is getting a reprint. The price is so massive on it from all the humans players along with that crazy ancient ziggurat. That later one feels like it could easily get supplanted by something else, though.
If it ever gets another printing, it will be in a Masters set, and it will continue the trend of rares in previous Masters sets being bumped to Mythic solely on price. Wizards behavior is absolutely shameful - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
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This is exactly what most Modern/Legacy/Commander players have been clamoring for, prices slashed by 20-50% for format staples. Who cares if you can't afford a sealed box of UMA, when the cards you need to play the game haven't been this affordable in years?
I'm going to take the opportunity next month to open 2-3 boxes, stash the a case for the future, and finish up playsets of Modern/Legacy cards. I like that WotC is careful to curate their reprints to maintain value of staples. I played casually and at LGS from '99 until '10, taking a long break before getting back in late '16. I had gotten my life in order during that break, and now have the disposable income when I didn't before. I might not have bothered if my old binder of cards hadn't appreciated in value during the interim. Whatever WotC is doing, it's enough to keep me invested in their game.
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They can even play around that by having 5 mana, a Path, and a fresh card to discard after Brainstorming.
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My reasons for disagreeing with Jace unban:
1. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." Modern is the one format they've done right the last year and a half.
2. In light of Standard's failures, Standard's rotation backtrack, the FNM promo backtrack, the card stock quality issue, and crappy PR response to the judge/harassment issues, I don't trust WotC's recent decision-making. They should play it more conservative in the grand scheme of the game as a whole.
3. Lantern hasn't caused rounds/tournaments to drag longer, but guess what does? Brainstorm -> fetch -> rinse/repeat -> fateseal.
4. The unbans will likely reduce deck diversity in Modern as midrange consolidates around the unbans. Mardu, Abzan, CoCo, EldraziTron, RG Eldrazi, and Shadow are all at risk. What do you get in return? A tier 1 Jund and U/X/x Control. Not a good trade-off if you care about diversity.
5. People will lose value on their cards/decks from Point 4.
5. This is a blatant cash grab with huge financial risk if they have to ban Jace again.
EDIT: Meant RG Eldrazi, not RG Tron.
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I disagree on bringing in Dispatch if it's TitanShift version, I'd bet you'd rather have Galvanic Blast for the majority of the time to race. Finks or Baloth might not matter either if you have a flyer-heavy draw, so I think Blast wins here too. Of course, Dispatch is necessary against the Breach version.
Good SB cards in some combination are Thoughtseize, Spell Pierce, and Blood Moon. Don't run out Blood Moon until the turn before they can combo. Make them spend the time to get/have the Rec Sage. Play at most 2 copies of Blood Moon, don't rely on it.
I don't think Spellskite is that good, since their best hate cards are Ancient Grudge and Anger of the Gods, which Spellskite doesn't adequately answer. Play Thoughtseize instead.
You are playing against a R/G Modern deck, so understand that you're not favored post-board and will lose depending on how many Grudges they have/draw. Maximize your best goldfish with the cheapest interaction available for the best chance to steal a game.
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Yes, Simian Spirit Guide is bad against discard and control, and you don't have Chalice for free wins either. Don't be afraid to go down to 0, 1, or 2 copies for more relevant spells. I would recommend playing the 4th Farseek over the 4th SSG.
I think siding out 1 Breach is fine against discard, but would keep the 3rd in if possible. Discard will impact the number of lands you have in play to hardcast Titan, so Breach ends up functioning as a 1 mana cheat in addition to the normal combo. As long as you aren't flooding on multiple copies, Breach is still really good against discard.
Obviously, Breach is your strongest card against counters, so take out all copies of SSG before any Breaches if against control.
I don't see how playing 1 Gust will make a difference against Lantern. Why would they let you topdeck it or allow it to stay in your hand? If you need to hit multiple artifacts, why not more copies of Ancient Grudge?
Bogles is such an easy matchup if you go up to 4 Anger of the Gods.
Why not play Woodfall Primus? He's maindeckable because you can Pact for him; he will allow you to interact with artifacts, enchantments, and lands game 1; and still acts as an alternate win condition. You can also rebuy him by siding in Pulse of Murasa.
Pulse is another very flexible card. Against burn, you can side out a couple of Farseek so you can still ramp with fetches while gaining life. It's decent against discard, counters, and multiplies the number of answers like Primus and Reclamation Sage.
An alternate win condition fatty is better than the 2nd Scapeshift. The 2nd Scapeshift won't help you against Extraction or Crumble.
I haven't tried out Worldspine Wurm, but only because Primus does everything that I want.
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Woodfall Primus has been good. Modern is very diverse, so I didn't want to be caught without an answer to stuff like Blood Moon or Ensnaring Bridge maindeck. I used to run Reclamation Sage in that slot, but the Sage is a dead card if you don't have a target, whereas Primus is a valid threat. So sick with a Breach.
I've tried both 3 and 4 Valakuts, and you can make a valid case for both. I think the risk is worth it after playing more with the deck. Oftentimes, it doesn't matter. You can still sequence two CIPT lands first two turns and still Anger on turn 3, for example. But the times when you naturally draw 2 Valakuts in a slower game? It's devastating. Hardcasting a Titan with 4 mountains and 2 Valakuts is almost as good as the combo.
3 is good if you're splashing or want an extra fetch as additional green source. The latter was my best argument for running 3.