I fully agree that 8rack is a subpar deck at the moment. That's why im curious how the deck matches up against decks that rack is usually weak against. Would never suggest to run a full discard suite or pack rat.
I tried out baloth and leylines. I had some issues getting double green reliable, but laylines are really nice since you tend to dredge most of the time so drawing them later in the game isn't that relevant.
I played around with lifegain lands play->sac-> loam-> repeat. It works well in bloom titan but there you can tutor for the lands so it's probably to cute:)
(new to this forum so I can only post links like this^^)
How do you fair against Treasure cruise, the bane of discard decks at the moment? I tested your list with some changes (similar to Jukai's list with 4 Thoughtsieze and 2 Bridge in the main) against U/R delver.
If they resolve a Cruise it feels as if all my work has been undone. Especially since the deck can function with 2-3 lands. And with a young pyromancer out smallpox gets a lot worse.
I also had problems against burn. Even on the play, smallpox turn 2 killing their Goblin Guide and getting Lilly down turn 4 i had a hard time. With burn splashing blue for cruise they seldom run out of steam and my clock wasn't fast enough, even if i could slow them down with hand and land disrupt.
But those were really the only matchups that I struggled with and with a bit of tuning this deck looks really promising.
I will be testing a list that runs the full 4 Briges and less creatures.
Of course I'm new to this deck and not totally comfortable playing it coming from a 8rack deck, that has way more targeted discard and no dregde as main card advantage.
I tried out baloth and leylines. I had some issues getting double green reliable, but laylines are really nice since you tend to dredge most of the time so drawing them later in the game isn't that relevant.
I played around with lifegain lands play->sac-> loam-> repeat. It works well in bloom titan but there you can tutor for the lands so it's probably to cute:)
What were your hardest matchups?
As you have stated you're new to modern, but i still have some questions of the bat:
What do you think are the advantages you have over the other 2 rack centric decks in modern?
8rack: www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/established-modern/574097-8rack]
W/B smallpox: www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/modern-deck-creation/221762-b-w-smallpox-control
(new to this forum so I can only post links like this^^)
How do you fair against Treasure cruise, the bane of discard decks at the moment? I tested your list with some changes (similar to Jukai's list with 4 Thoughtsieze and 2 Bridge in the main) against U/R delver.
If they resolve a Cruise it feels as if all my work has been undone. Especially since the deck can function with 2-3 lands. And with a young pyromancer out smallpox gets a lot worse.
I also had problems against burn. Even on the play, smallpox turn 2 killing their Goblin Guide and getting Lilly down turn 4 i had a hard time. With burn splashing blue for cruise they seldom run out of steam and my clock wasn't fast enough, even if i could slow them down with hand and land disrupt.
But those were really the only matchups that I struggled with and with a bit of tuning this deck looks really promising.
I will be testing a list that runs the full 4 Briges and less creatures.
Of course I'm new to this deck and not totally comfortable playing it coming from a 8rack deck, that has way more targeted discard and no dregde as main card advantage.