MTG Salvation

Hmm, I think we do.

Ah right, we can't have Boon Reflection. So that loses two layers at the end.

Hmm, I guess since we have lands we want to recycle in the ending layers, it's better to use Gerrard's Verdict and just use Drownyard Temple in the hyperstage.

I don't see how it would be, unless we Lotus Petal is also a problem. We have to sacrifice it to use it, or we can put it into play with Dual Nature and March of the Machines, and it will die. (but trigger the creation of a lot of copies)

Improved ending sequence:

Sphinx of Enlightenment / Words of Wisdom plus Consecrated Sphinx sounds good.

You can put Lotus Petal into play with March of the Machines in play (and Dual Nature to get copies), so that it dies, and Mortuary will put it on top of the library.

Hmm, that looks right. We want to be able to get access to enough cards to get started, but not be able to redraw the Lotus Petal and go infinite. Anyone have any ideas on how to do that?

We need to cast Primal Surge - I would think we would need either Show and Tell or Channel.

Right, I was thinking in terms of affecting creatures during computation, but starting one is also bad.

Any ideas for how we can implement a life stage? The problem with Confessor or Peace of Mind is that we can discard anything to those, so we can't be able to retrieve enchantments and/or artifacts from the graveyard. But, if we can bounce enchantments/artifacts, we have the problem of being able to Mirrorweave / Cytoshape creatures into enchantments/artifacts to bounce them.

So perhaps we want a creature-specific life gain option like Ghost-Lit Redeemer. But, then we can't use Flbthp, so we want a spell/ability that actually bounces GLR at the cost of 4 life. I don't know anything like that.


Edit: Redid the final layers a little bit:




Edit: Slightly better ending sequence.



If there's a non-sacrificing version of Font of Fertility, we could perhaps go back to the Dragon Appeasement sequence. Or, maybe we could just get rid of Starfield of Nyx.


Edit: Is there some way we can make the hyperstage work without Chrome Mox? It seems like getting rid of Chrome Mox could be quite helpful for the ending layers, we could use creatures such as Tamanoa, Hana Kami, etc.


Edit: Hmm, is it as simple as replacing Chrome Mox with Simian Spirit Guide?

Hmm, I don't see a way to get a stage from those creatures. Maybe it could be some life gaining effect for when a green or white creature enters the battlefield, but I didn't find anything like that.

Making the changes, and adding in the start and the ending layers:

Nice! So just a couple of changes are needed.

But yeah, I'm hoping we can get at least more additional stages or a megastage. So making a life stage would useful towards that end. A creature stage could lead to a megstage, but that seems harder.

Gerrard's Verdict is certainly something we don't really need, since we can bounce lifelands instead.

I mocked up a preliminary version of a Worldfire hyperstage. There are probably various issues with the stage, and for the hyperstage we need a way to get Xathrid Necromancer back after a Worldfire, but it's a start:




Edit: Heh, obviously Peace of Mind doesn't have to discard a creature card. So yeah.


Edit: So, I haven't figured out the life stage yet, but maybe the above is a good setup? But yeah, doesn't work with Chrome Mox of course.


Edit: So, here is Stakfish's deck for reference:




I still believe that we can probably get a stronger deck, additional stages at least if not a megastage, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to get a hyperstage deck working.

Hmm, that Cytoshape issue seems like a big one.

Maybe we can examine Stakfish's deck, to see what issues it has?


Edit: I guess, in light of the Cytoshape problem, we need to retrieve artifacts (and possibly enchantments) from the graveyard rather than bounce them.

Hmmm, we can work around having Show and Tell, but I think it might be cheaper to replace Panharmonicon with a third Deep Analysis. Then, we can cast two sorceries, one of which has to be Worldpurge so that we can get our life back, and then we can get only one of Rude Awakening or Show and Tell. So we can cast Rude Awakening and Worldpurge, and that's it. We can cast Gerrard's Verdict and Show and Tell as needed afterwards, but we can't insert them in between Worldpurge and Awakening.

So the idea behind Soul Sculptor not working on March of the Machines and Starfield of Nyx is that layer 4 is applied before layer 6? Makes sense, but maybe we should get a check on that?


Edit: If Soul Sculptor can't turn off the animating enchantments, maybe Leonin Relic-Warder?

An interesting idea! But, we can bounce Xathrid Necromancer for black mana, and also Thunderscape Master to convert mana into life with Worldpurge, can't we?

Perhaps we can get additional stages by making the primary stage based on life.