MTG Salvation

I find it kinda weird that Sorin would just out to seek Ugin's dead body if he really had trapped Nahiri in the Helvault. He knew that the Helvaut was destroyed back on the original Innistrad - he was there, looking for Avacyn, after all. In that case, he should focus on dealing with the pissed-off, vengeful little girl that threatened to destroy his entire freaking plane in a small hissy fit instead of finding Ugin.

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Also apparently, the new guy has more of a tech focus to his experience. Could this mean more input into the clunky and terribly designed MTGO client? Maybe something new altogether (which is probably the way to go. Polishing a turd isn't the right idea in my own humble opinion)

Could this mean they are finally going to fix comments on Gatherer?
Well, one can dream.

Just my two cents:

• Both versions are IMO extremely overpowered, due to the fact that both can steal lands. So, if you can keep an empty board (if you're Grixis, of course you can clear a board), v.1 ensures that your opponents can't get past his fourth/fifth land drop, or it makes it extremely unlikely. v.2 just skips the randomness, the board restriction, the luck factor and makes it noninteractive, though at least a wipe can get your lands back. That makes v.1 more fair, but that's like saying Smokestack is more fair than Stasis.
• Neither version captures the flavor of what an Lich is. Y'know, immortal, powerful mage that deals with undeath and the likes. I would associate Liches with alternate loss conditions, not win conditions. Both also feel extremely U-ish, maybe a bit R-ish, but not much B going on on those Liches.
• The whole package seems extremely powerful in the overall, even if you fix the lands issue. As far as I know, Dominus of Fealty is a pretty good card, and v.1 has one less cost, around the same body, steals things permanently and from every player in the table and has a wincon tacked on, at the measly cost of stealing at random.

Overall, v.1 is more "fair" right now, but both seem pretty busted.

Garruk, the Fallen 4BG
Legendary Creature - Human Warrior Demon
Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may have Garruk, the Fallen fight another creature. If you do, gain 3 life.
Whenever a creature or planeswalker dealt damage by Garruk this turn dies, put three +1/+1 counters on him.
His spark lost, he plots revenge upon the witch whose corrupting mana fractured his soul.
6/4

(in case you didn't get it.)


Next: A Commander based on Arthurian legends.

Firemane Awakener WR
Creature - Human Shaman
Whenever Firemane Awakener attacks, if you control an attacking creature with 5 power or greater, Firemane Awakener deals 2 damage to target creature or player and you gain 2 life.
WR: Firemane Awakener gets +1/+0 and first strike until end of turn.
In Naya, strength and bravery shines brighter than any flame.
2/2

Kami of Birth 2G
Creature - Spirit
Spirit or Arcane spells cost 1 less to cast.
Whenever you cast a Spirit or Arcane spell, you gain 1 life.
Before the war, the servants of Iname blessed the newborns with a prosperous life. Now they bring forth only other spirits, heralding cruel deaths.
2/3

Eraser of Sanity 3BR
Creature - Eldrazi
Devoid
When you cast Eraser of Sanity, target opponent exiles the top four cards of their library.
Eraser of Sanity's power and toughness are each equal to the number of exiled cards each opponent controls.
Whenever Eraser of Sanity becomes the target of an opponent's spell, that opponent may return up to two cards in his or her exile to the graveyard.
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Next:
Drown in Filth in Dark Ascencion
Embalmed Brawler in Born of the Gods
Temporal Aperture in Fate Reforged

Everybody around here talkin' about Moles and I'm just sitting here laughing out loud at Moldgraf Scavenger. Now that's the horror trope I was waiting for: Night of the Triffids.

Hot damn Geier Reach Bandit, that card is AWESOME. 3/2 Haste for 2R is great, but the ability of skipping the transformation of all other Werewolves? Yeah, that's simply amazing. There we go, Werewolf players. If that doesn't makes Werewolf playables, I don't know what will.

Pretty bad card IMO, and ultimately filler for the Werewolf deck. Just sad that the guy isn't wearing a Hannibal-like mask. Now that would have been cool.

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I feel bad for green players.

Don't. Before Collected Company decks and Abzan, we had G Devotion and GR Monstrosity, and before that, we had GR Zoo, and before that, we had many Midrange ddecks with Thragtusk.
Green has been amongst the top decks for quite some time, and Green players are doing just fine IMO.


As for the cards... well, they seem fine. Uvenwald Hydra is a fixed Primetime, as the article states, and it was necessary because Primetime is busted in casual formats and needed an "fair" replacement. Probably nowhere near Standard.
From Under the Floorboards could get there. The lifegain is really relevant, but in order to be playable, Control decks would need to go the Madness route, and that Madness trigger would need to be Instant speed for flexibility. I don't think that will be happening anytime soon, but I could be wrong.
Creeping Dread probably cost 1 too much to see play, but I think it's surprisingly pretty good. Losing 3 life is always relevant, even when situational, and there are ways to make your discard work in you favor. I would love this in many Graveyard oriented Commander decks.

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Why tapped. That's a steep cost for it and your only gonna revive this maybe once or twice in a game. It's stats don't warrant it being dangerous even with flying and 3 power.

Why would you want to block with a 3/1 Flier in Limited anyways? These wings are made for attackin'.


As for the card, it's Limited fodder mostly, but it's pretty alright. I love it how the second cost is much cheaper than the base one, so "cheating" it into play somehow with a Turn 1 discard nets you a 3/1 Flier on Turn 2. So, say, Lightning Axe T1 to face, T2 this just straight-up wins games.

*Muffled "You are a pirate" playing in the distance*

From the official site:

Commander is played with vintage legal cards. Cards are legal to play with as of their sets' prerelease.

Un- cards are not Vintage legal, so they are not EDH legal. This is why Conspracies, Chaos Orb and Falling Star, and Ante cards are not legal either.

Now, EDH is a casual format so your group can do whatever it wants, but literally the first line under the banlist section on the official website says Un cards are not legal.

Also, while Strip Mine is not Legacy legal, Jace, the Mind Sculptor certainly is. I am not sure why you would think it isn't.

I will concede the point of Mind Sculptor. I was there when he was rotated out and banned in everything, so naturally I assumed that extended to Legacy as well. However, what I will not concede is the legality of Un- cards. Likewise from an equally (if not moreso) official site, the Vintage Banlist, complete with April 2017 update:

Revised: April 24, 2017

While Modern lets you play cards from as far back as 2003, Vintage lets you play cards from any set in the 20+ year history of Magic!

The following cards are banned from vintage play:

25 cards with the Card Type “Conspiracy.” Click here for list.
9 cards that reference "playing for ante." Click here for list.
Chaos Orb
Falling Star
Shahrazad...

Never does it mention the 230 Silver Bordered cards, or reference Silver Border anywhere. That's actually for the tournament document to clarify, which again states (for your convenience):

(from the section Tournament Rules > Authorized cards)

Players may use any Authorized Game Cards from Magic: The Gathering expansions, core sets, special sets, supplements, and promotional printings. Authorized Game Cards are cards that, unaltered, meet the following conditions:

The card is genuine and published by Wizards of the Coast

The card has a standard Magic back, is a double-faced card, or is a card that is part of a meld pair.

The card does not have squared corners.

The card has non-silver borders.

The card is not a token card.

... And so on and so forth. But when I sit down to a game of EDH with my Un-Deck, it's only to any non-tournament game. Even I'm not THAT thick.

Edit: Also, I'm keeping my $5, thanks!

Edit 2: Added the third individual banned card for Vintage, and also apparently the Banlist for commander is on the Mothership as well, next section down. Who knew?

Fblthp really needs a planeswalker. I wonder if Penny Bolas could be a thing here as well.

What is up with all you "serious" players lamenting that an unset is coming after 13 years, during a time in which no normal set (or even supplemental ones) would be released, without using up ressources from the other products, fullfilling the wish of quite a few casual players or players in general who get the joke or would like to play a more comedic and fun take on Magic for once? The product is clearly not for you so don't buy it. But it takes nothing away from you in any way and I think the players who waited for it for quite a long time (and also Maro) deserve to have this product. I will definitely buy a box^^ Hopefully it will sell well enough to justify another one a decade or so down the line.

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So who actually buys un sets?

Why wouldn't people buy Un-Sets? Commander has already proven that the one of Magic's biggest markets is kitchen table players, and Conspiracy has already proven people are very receptive to zany hijinks in the Draft phase, why not zany hijinks during the game itself?

I just hope the prices aren't MM / Conspiracy levels of outrageous. Definitely want to pick a box to play with friends.

The key thing you're missing is that cards in Commander are playable in every other format as well.

This exactly.

I am not a player that goes to tournaments. I consider myself to a be semi competitive casual player with a few spike like tendencies. I usually play with my friends, but sometimes I like to go to a card shop and play some EDH or casual Modern with people I don't know.

Yes, most players are not tournament spikes, but the vast majority of players do not play with silver border cards. Many players that play casually still want to play with cards where there are clear and consistent rules.

Even if you are player that plays Standard, Modern, Frontier, Legacy, Vintage, and EDH, there will not be one card in this set that you can play in any of your other decks aside from basic lands. That is ridiculous and if it weren't for previous Un sets, this would be unprecedented.

Most players would be much happier if they put awesome full art basic lands in a set with cards that can actually be played within the official rules of magic the gathering.

Advice: Do not assume that your experience or your perceived experience is data, ever.

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Dinosaur better be its own creature type. No more of this lizard/beast BS.

I'd be perfectly okay with something like 'saurian' instead, but either way a new type is probably warranted.

As a big fan of paleobiology, I am a big fan of realistic dinosaurs. I also like how they fit with a tropical mesoamerica based setting.

Feathered Dinosaurs!!

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More information on Ixalan here.

So... pirates, scientifically accurate Dinosaurs, explorers and legendary cities. So... it's basically Road to Eldorado: The Block? I dig it.

But will it have the most important element of Road to El Dorado - the homoeroticism?

HELL, IT WAS ABOUT TIME.

Great to have a glimpse of the plane as it looks now. Great way to celebrate the 25 years.

*SQUEAKS*

YES YES YES YES.

Best card in the set. Best design of the year.