If, hypothetically speaking, Some One got killed, who would your second lynch choice be?
Consider the timestamps between this post and the "Daykill Some One" PM's we got. Think it's pretty clear Iso removed Some One's "unkillable" power, which he NEVER CLAIMED.
Ding ding, we have a winner. If a player claims any aspect of their ability in-thread, I can quote it, say, "That's impossible!" in bold to it, and that part of their ability is removed. I also have a 50% chance to receive a Cop result if I successfully remove an ability from that player.
First, that role means you can selectively vanillasize everyone who claims, leaving you in control of every power role in this game.
Second, presumably you have to PM Seppel a quote of the player claiming the aspect of their role and add "That's impossible!" to it to remove that bit of their role.
So how does "!" = "cannot post except in Cyanquotes"?
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Why didn't you push for gan_dan's PM that he got when I removed his PR?
Because -
a) GD explained what his PR was almost immediately
This concerns me. I have not received a PM..........WoD why did you fos Iso?
If it's a targeted ability then only the target would get a PM. WoD can't change his initial vote, so FOS is the best he can do.
The ability described (would you call it a "role daykiller"?) makes a hell of a lot of sense. Pretty sure WoD wouldn't pull something like this as a gambit.
Iso wouldn't try to target ME with it because I'm too obvious a target I guess...
Look. It matters not whether he's actually HAD the role. The game is focused on what he has SAID is possible. In addition, you're discounting the most probable scenario: That Cyan once said that someone was Unlynchable AND Unkillable in the SAME ROLE was impossible. Hell, it's possible that he even said it was impossible that they were Unlynchable, Unkillable, AND could be killed anyway. Occam's Razor. Use it.
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User: Cyan
Keywords - "impossible", "unlynchable" - 1 result
Keywords - "impossible", "unkillable" - 1 result in mafia forums, the other in a retired clan thread regarding a card design.
Keywords - "unkillable", "unlynchable" - no results.
The roles we have are scattered throughout Cyan quotes. Some of them are composed of more than one at a time.
Mmmmhmmmm. So your assertion is that our roles are composed of multiple quotes from Cyan that he has declared as "impossible".
For example, take Some One - Miller Vigilante is pretty normal. So, by your theory, the impossible parts would probably be "unlynchable" and "unkillable".
That would mean there's a Cyan quote somewhere to the effect of "an unlynchable role is impossible."
Hate to break it to you, but take a look at Cyan's role from Joss Whedon.
Each night, you may PM me the name of a player in this game. You will then seek them and out and end their existence.
Additionally, as long as Topher Brink remains alive in this game, you cannot be lynched. After all, there are so many other imprints he could merely plug back into you.
If you reach the number of votes required for a lynch, the day will simply continue as if nothing happened (provided Topher is still breathing).
You win the game when: You are the last player standing.
So an unlynchable role would be QUITE POSSIBLE in Cyan's mind, since he's been one.
Post #1068 of Cartoon Mafia mentions someone agreeing to be Daykilled would be impossible as scum.
Continuing my search.
If you're going to go back 5 years to try and find something, a link at least would be nice. The 'relevant' part is at the end of the post and quoted here:
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I think I've done what I can to show my townliness. I stated that I would accept being daykilled if CP could explain how it would prove anything(which he never did). I had no way of knowing that Az was a 1-Shot daykill. I'm fairly confident that I'd be dead now if he had another shot. I don't really see how that meshes with the idea that I'm scum.
But where in this game did Some One agree to be daykilled to prove his towniness? He said that he'd messed up and would accept being the Day 1 lynch because of it. Daykilling wasn't anywhere on the table until you offhandedly brought it up in post #490 (right after the PM's from Seppel went out based on the timestamps.) and he was dead the very next post.
Oh yeah, Cyan's role in Cartoon Mafia? Town Inventor. I don't see the words Miller, Unkillable, Unlynchable or Vigilante in that role.
Anyway, I have a scheme that should inevitably result in the town's victory. And yes, it involves the setup being completely present in various posts on the site.
You have 3 bodies to lend credence to your plan. Show the posts where Some One, Arcadic and iLord's roles were laid out already, and maybe we'll agree to it.
Because I believe you, Anak, and Eco to be the scum team.
Why should I look further when there are obviously only 3 scum in this game?
If you believed Eco to be scum, why did you vote me to start the day instead of Eco, who had a legitimate wagon and would have been at L-2 had you voted for him before he decided to pull his vanishing act for the weekend.
Re: Eco - The timing of said vanishing act is VERY iffy.
I'm going to FOS: Ecophagy as a vote placeholder.
I don't recall asking for your opinion on the matter, but it would be highly anti-town to push for me not to go last in the massclaim.
I like how you assume it's my role that indicated to me that Arcadic was town, when in fact, it was behavioral analysis. Get lynched.
Your single-mindedness makes you less useful than Wrath. He's at least forced by his role to put his vote on someone and stay with it. You, on the other hand, are tunneled on me so hard you're not even bothering to look anymore.
Either way, the game only ended AFTER this one began, and if you recall, I've been pushing your lynch since the start of this game. Besides, that would be, as you said, petty. I don't "revenge lynch" people, especially not if I believe them to be of the same faction I am fighting for.
Your participation in ST2 ended when you got lynched as scum day 3, a good three weeks before this game started. It's worth a look as we can see both your town AND scum play behaviors.
I suggest everyone else does what I'm doing - ignore Iso, he doesn't listen to sense, he doesn't listen to reason, he only listens to the little leprechaun on his shoulder that tells him to burn things.
I have not had nearly enough sleep for the past while so some stuff in the near future may or may not make sense.
I would except for the possibility that he could be scum.
Why does that possibility not seem to occur to you?
So some of your arguments that he's scum are based off behaviours that he does as town.
Why does that not concern you?
Cyouni has a point. This could be part of a plan to make everyone write Iso off. It's worked for me in the past. (look no further than Star Trek II, which might also explain why Iso's got such a mad on for my lynch. Petty revenge)
Not that I'm expecting an answer to this, but...
Iso: Are you still clinging to your initial scum team :
Where's the bolded "That's Impossible" post from today targeting Wrath?
Consider the timestamps between this post and the "Daykill Some One" PM's we got. Think it's pretty clear Iso removed Some One's "unkillable" power, which he NEVER CLAIMED.
First, that role means you can selectively vanillasize everyone who claims, leaving you in control of every power role in this game.
Second, presumably you have to PM Seppel a quote of the player claiming the aspect of their role and add "That's impossible!" to it to remove that bit of their role.
So how does "!" = "cannot post except in Cyanquotes"?
Because -
a) GD explained what his PR was almost immediately
b) I did inquire...
and c) YOU ASKED ABOUT IT FIRST!
Vote Iso
If it's a targeted ability then only the target would get a PM. WoD can't change his initial vote, so FOS is the best he can do.
The ability described (would you call it a "role daykiller"?) makes a hell of a lot of sense. Pretty sure WoD wouldn't pull something like this as a gambit.
Iso wouldn't try to target ME with it because I'm too obvious a target I guess...
Wrath? Can you paraphrase the PM you got?
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User: Cyan
Keywords - "impossible", "unlynchable" - 1 result
Keywords - "impossible", "unkillable" - 1 result in mafia forums, the other in a retired clan thread regarding a card design.
Keywords - "unkillable", "unlynchable" - no results.
Mmmmhmmmm. So your assertion is that our roles are composed of multiple quotes from Cyan that he has declared as "impossible".
For example, take Some One - Miller Vigilante is pretty normal. So, by your theory, the impossible parts would probably be "unlynchable" and "unkillable".
That would mean there's a Cyan quote somewhere to the effect of "an unlynchable role is impossible."
Hate to break it to you, but take a look at Cyan's role from Joss Whedon.
So an unlynchable role would be QUITE POSSIBLE in Cyan's mind, since he's been one.
If you're going to go back 5 years to try and find something, a link at least would be nice. The 'relevant' part is at the end of the post and quoted here:
But where in this game did Some One agree to be daykilled to prove his towniness? He said that he'd messed up and would accept being the Day 1 lynch because of it. Daykilling wasn't anywhere on the table until you offhandedly brought it up in post #490 (right after the PM's from Seppel went out based on the timestamps.) and he was dead the very next post.
Oh yeah, Cyan's role in Cartoon Mafia? Town Inventor. I don't see the words Miller, Unkillable, Unlynchable or Vigilante in that role.
You have 3 bodies to lend credence to your plan. Show the posts where Some One, Arcadic and iLord's roles were laid out already, and maybe we'll agree to it.
It was buried in a wall-of-text post.
WoD's vote is locked at the beginning of the day. Iso's doing the same thing, but by choice.
If you believed Eco to be scum, why did you vote me to start the day instead of Eco, who had a legitimate wagon and would have been at L-2 had you voted for him before he decided to pull his vanishing act for the weekend.
Re: Eco - The timing of said vanishing act is VERY iffy.
I'm going to FOS: Ecophagy as a vote placeholder.
Your single-mindedness makes you less useful than Wrath. He's at least forced by his role to put his vote on someone and stay with it. You, on the other hand, are tunneled on me so hard you're not even bothering to look anymore.
Predictable how?
No, I don't think so. If we decide to, Iso certainly hasn't earned the right to go last like he wants.
Gee, what roles on Day 1 would know that a player would flip town?
Your participation in ST2 ended when you got lynched as scum day 3, a good three weeks before this game started. It's worth a look as we can see both your town AND scum play behaviors.
I'm not surprised at all by this post. I am surprised he actually waited 30 minutes though.
I'm willing to agree with this, except...
Cyouni has a point. This could be part of a plan to make everyone write Iso off. It's worked for me in the past. (look no further than Star Trek II, which might also explain why Iso's got such a mad on for my lynch. Petty revenge)
Not that I'm expecting an answer to this, but...
Iso: Are you still clinging to your initial scum team :
or has there been "new information"?