We won? Dang, I was sure DRey was leading us to destruction with his plan. The one good thing about my PR was that I couldn't go off on any wild tangents and theories.
Really want to see the role list, and scum/spectator chats if any.
Here's my role PM:
Quote from Annorax »
~Tilde~ You are Spot. You miss your former person, Data, but seem to be getting along with your new person, Worf (Weaver.) As a cat, you are able to get into places and observe things no humanoid could ever be allowed to see and live.
Role: Kitty Tracker
Species: Cat
Tracker (Each night, you may target a player. You learn if that player activated any targeted abilities tonight, and if so, who they targeted.)
Post Restricted (You may only post in actions and gestures that a cat could normally make, such as biting or hissing at people you believe are scum and rubbing up against people you believe are town. You may not vary your font size, color, or any other attribute of your posts in the game thread because a cat could not normally post. You are limited to acting like a cat to get your point across in-game. If you need clarification about what is legal and what is not, ask the moderator.)
Win Condition: Kill all non-town players.
And I still don't know if I had the secret supersaint ability Spot did in the 1st game.
And apparently I was immune to being culted simply because I was a cat.
Vig is the main role/shot that is missing from my collection. Everything else is 2 tier abilites that usually work the best when the scum don't know of their existence or what they are.
I'm town, but I've made scummy plays and am about to get lynched. I have a lot of abilities which could help the town, if I have a chance to use them though. I'm given the opportunity to lynch another player, who I'm very confident is not acting townie. Do I go ahead and take the shot or not?
If I were in that situation, I probably would take the shot, especially if I felt confident that I'd live to see the next day. (via a self protect I'm keeping under wraps perhaps)
- WoD caught an interesting slip by Arcadic. Town doesn't generally present scenarios where they will flip scum. I think Arcadic is at L-1 so I'm not going to switch my vote just yet, but I'm preparing to do so.
I count 4 of 6 on Arcadic atm (WoD, pinky, Eco and myself)
- Tilde, perhaps you were being obvious to others, but enlighten me: why did you flip-flop votes on Iso and Arcadic?
Hell no. Iso's actions are not coming from a completely town mindset. However, i haven't seen anything majorly scummy from him so i have no desire to vote him at this time. He's certainly far from in my Town pile though.
So I gave him the chance to hammer someone who I also believe to be scummy. Arc decided NOT to pull the trigger again.
If Arcadic is town, facing the noose, and had reason to think Iso wasn't town, it'd make sense to fire wouldn't it?
Oh, how long can trusty Cadet Stimpy Iso hold out? How can he possibly resist the diabolical urge to push the button that could erase his very existence? Will his tortured mind give in to its uncontrollable desires? Can he withstand the temptation to push the button that even now beckons him ever closer? Will he succumb to the maddening urge to eradicate history at the mere push of a single button? The beautiful, shiny button? The jolly, candy-like button? Will he hold out, folks? CAN he hold out?
I was serious when I said that I did not want to have to post again.
But since you are forcing me too, I would like to point out that I am not the one trying to come up with a (or go along with another's) convoluted plan to wrap this up. Here is my plan:
Lynch me.
I will flip town.
Logic will tell you to lynch Burtinatrix.
We win.
I see no need to rely on some WIFOM filled scenario, when to me it seems quite simple.
So what does that tell you about the role itself? Wouldn't that be stupidly swingy on scum? Like, bastardly to the point of beyond Seppelocity?
First - It's been indicated that the Arcadic's "Chuck Norris Is Awesome" role can be either a town or scum role.
Second - If Arcadic is town, why only partially disclose his abilities, especially since he can use all (except the claimed 3x vote) of them tonight? The Xylbot example has some pretty scummy sounding abilities in it (eradicate, abduct, FRAMER...)
What concerns me is that you're so willing to lynch what is probably our biggest asset in regards to information.
Third - If Arcadic is town, and has such an incredibly powerful role, doesn't that make the likelihood of you, Iso, having an ability capable of "breaking the game wide open" go down considerably? If both of you are town, combined with Some One's vig role, that pretty much means each of the scum would need PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER!!! just for the sake of play balance.
When's the last time you saw a mafia tracker/watcher/etc.? Also, do you really believe that this ability isn't TOO powerful in the hands of scum?
Of his claimed abilities, Cop is useless on scum unless there's a third party role. Doc is pointless now, since Some One is dead. Watcher and Tracker only point out if a player has an active night ability, it's not a rolecop. Only real useful scum role he's listed is RB.
Seems to me that you're looking to rid yourself of what may be a huge wrench in your gears during the first Night.
Arcadic's already unilaterally pulled the trigger on what some would argue is the most valuable town role in any mafia game (Especially since that probably was the ONLY way Some One could've been killed this game)
The question now is "Should we trust him with that much power in this game?"
I'm Cyan, Town JOAT. Cyan has played in so many games he's seen just about every role. I have many 1 shot abilities. I won't claim them all since some of them are better left unclaimed but Cop, Doc, Watcher, Tracker and Roleblock are 5 of the 11 one shots i have at night. I have a one shot triple vote as well that is a day ability. Win Condition: Eliminate all threats.
I've seen this role under the Xylbot list. It's the "Chuck Norris JoaT"
Quote from Xylbot role list »
Chuck Norris (town, sk; rare; 4+ players): You have 10 one-shot abilities. You can only use one ability each night. You are immune to kills. Actions: eradicate (1 use) track (1 use) protect (1 use) block (1 use) antidote (1 use) exorcise (1 use) frame (1 use) abduct (1 use) inspect (1 use) kill (1 use)
Of course, with Rule #7 in effect, it's absurdly powerful:
Quote from Seppel"s Rules »
7) Players with more than one night ability may use all night abilities in a single night unless otherwise stated.
But the concerning thing is the claimed 1-shot triple vote. In a 1211-player game that's effectively a daykill. In the hands of someone who's already pulled the trigger once, without regard to anyone else's opinion.
Really want to see the role list, and scum/spectator chats if any.
Here's my role PM:
And I still don't know if I had the secret supersaint ability Spot did in the 1st game.
And apparently I was immune to being culted simply because I was a cat.
According to Arcadic he doesn't.
Hypothetical -
I'm town, but I've made scummy plays and am about to get lynched. I have a lot of abilities which could help the town, if I have a chance to use them though. I'm given the opportunity to lynch another player, who I'm very confident is not acting townie. Do I go ahead and take the shot or not?
If I were in that situation, I probably would take the shot, especially if I felt confident that I'd live to see the next day. (via a self protect I'm keeping under wraps perhaps)
I count 4 of 6 on Arcadic atm (WoD, pinky, Eco and myself)
Arc admitted Iso's not being very townie:
So I gave him the chance to hammer someone who I also believe to be scummy. Arc decided NOT to pull the trigger again.
If Arcadic is town, facing the noose, and had reason to think Iso wasn't town, it'd make sense to fire wouldn't it?
StimpyIso hold out? How can he possibly resist the diabolical urge to push the button that could erase his very existence? Will his tortured mind give in to its uncontrollable desires? Can he withstand the temptation to push the button that even now beckons him ever closer? Will he succumb to the maddening urge to eradicate history at the mere push of a single button? The beautiful, shiny button? The jolly, candy-like button? Will he hold out, folks? CAN he hold out?Unvote, Vote Arcadic
Unvote, Vote Iso.
* ~Tilde~ curls up in a ball on the bar.
* ~Tilde~ purrs contentedly.
* ~Tilde~ stares at red_0mega, then mews softly.
Vote red_0mega
Backpedal much there Iso?
Arcadic - Iso seems utterly convinced that you are town, based on:
Do you have the same conviction that Iso is Town? Yes or no?
First - It's been indicated that the Arcadic's "Chuck Norris Is Awesome" role can be either a town or scum role.
Second - If Arcadic is town, why only partially disclose his abilities, especially since he can use all (except the claimed 3x vote) of them tonight? The Xylbot example has some pretty scummy sounding abilities in it (eradicate, abduct, FRAMER...)
Third - If Arcadic is town, and has such an incredibly powerful role, doesn't that make the likelihood of you, Iso, having an ability capable of "breaking the game wide open" go down considerably? If both of you are town, combined with Some One's vig role, that pretty much means each of the scum would need PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER!!! just for the sake of play balance.
Of his claimed abilities, Cop is useless on scum unless there's a third party role. Doc is pointless now, since Some One is dead. Watcher and Tracker only point out if a player has an active night ability, it's not a rolecop. Only real useful scum role he's listed is RB.
Arcadic's already unilaterally pulled the trigger on what some would argue is the most valuable town role in any mafia game (Especially since that probably was the ONLY way Some One could've been killed this game)
The question now is "Should we trust him with that much power in this game?"
I've seen this role under the Xylbot list. It's the "Chuck Norris JoaT"
Of course, with Rule #7 in effect, it's absurdly powerful:
But the concerning thing is the claimed 1-shot triple vote. In a
1211-player game that's effectively a daykill. In the hands of someone who's already pulled the trigger once, without regard to anyone else's opinion.Vote stands.
With Arcadic's lurking lately, it'd have to be a pretty impressive post.
Seppel? Inactivity prod on Arcadic please.