The problem I have with the bannings is that aggressive bannings won't make things better. The problem is that the format lacks certain cards to make it better and taking away options in an already limited pool of choices does not expand a format. For example, I think that banning Scorched Desert would probably have been a better attempt at balancing ramunap without killing the deck. Also Rampaging Ferocidon being banned has left me a bit divided. I see the points they are pushing, yet at the same time it was one of the few ways red had to deal with a lot of the life gain and token strategies. Energy is likely going to go Grixis now as it has the better options to run and never ran the banned cards to begin with.
Did you read the banning article? Because making sure that decks that go wide or use life gain can fight back against RR was why the card was banned. /facepalm
Yeah I did, and I don't agree that it was a wise decision to ban Ferocidon. I think something else should have been banned in place of it as despite the fact they designed it to handle a problem that never surfaced, it still acted as a SkullCrack in a format that does have a lot of options for life gain. At the same time, I understand the reasons for why they would ban it. Did you read my own post? I said I was divided on the decision, not "zomg it was the stupidest choice ever".
Case in point, mono-black aggro win percentage was around 56%. They could, as mentioned, removed Ahncrop Crasher to equal effect, removing an older card, keeping Ixalan free of banned cards, and therefore not make the set worse to open. But who knows, maybe they actually have Skullcrack coming in the next set so this was to give an underpowered vampires strategy breathing room.
No you asked why would they ban the card when it fights against tokens and life gain strategies when the article literally spells out why banning the card, in order to enable that angle of attack against RR, which calls into question why you would ask a question that was already answered directly by the article. Straw manning other people's posts doesn't make that any less nonsensical.
As someone else put it, if a Skullcrack with legs is giving someone trouble they have their own issues to deal with. Now I'm interested in seeing if mono-black aggro makes a return.
That's not a response, that's you ignoring the fact you asked a question answered in the very article you claim to have read. Nor does it actually address the situation in the format that prompted the bannings. It doesn't even make sense in regards to the article since the article specifically mentions that going wide and lifegain WAS an effective strategy against RR. Which Ferocidon wrecks.
The problem I have with the bannings is that aggressive bannings won't make things better. The problem is that the format lacks certain cards to make it better and taking away options in an already limited pool of choices does not expand a format. For example, I think that banning Scorched Desert would probably have been a better attempt at balancing ramunap without killing the deck. Also Rampaging Ferocidon being banned has left me a bit divided. I see the points they are pushing, yet at the same time it was one of the few ways red had to deal with a lot of the life gain and token strategies. Energy is likely going to go Grixis now as it has the better options to run and never ran the banned cards to begin with.
Did you read the banning article? Because making sure that decks that go wide or use life gain can fight back against RR was why the card was banned. /facepalm
Yeah I did, and I don't agree that it was a wise decision to ban Ferocidon. I think something else should have been banned in place of it as despite the fact they designed it to handle a problem that never surfaced, it still acted as a SkullCrack in a format that does have a lot of options for life gain. At the same time, I understand the reasons for why they would ban it. Did you read my own post? I said I was divided on the decision, not "zomg it was the stupidest choice ever".
Case in point, mono-black aggro win percentage was around 56%. They could, as mentioned, removed Ahncrop Crasher to equal effect, removing an older card, keeping Ixalan free of banned cards, and therefore not make the set worse to open. But who knows, maybe they actually have Skullcrack coming in the next set so this was to give an underpowered vampires strategy breathing room.
No you asked why would they ban the card when it fights against tokens and life gain strategies when the article literally spells out why banning the card, in order to enable that angle of attack against RR, which calls into question why you would ask a question that was already answered directly by the article. Straw manning other people's posts doesn't make that any less nonsensical.
The problem I have with the bannings is that aggressive bannings won't make things better. The problem is that the format lacks certain cards to make it better and taking away options in an already limited pool of choices does not expand a format. For example, I think that banning Scorched Desert would probably have been a better attempt at balancing ramunap without killing the deck. Also Rampaging Ferocidon being banned has left me a bit divided. I see the points they are pushing, yet at the same time it was one of the few ways red had to deal with a lot of the life gain and token strategies. Energy is likely going to go Grixis now as it has the better options to run and never ran the banned cards to begin with.
Did you read the banning article? Because making sure that decks that go wide or use life gain can fight back against RR was why the card was banned. /facepalm
There's really no point in asking if the cards are some of the worst on the ban list because context always defines something like that. Attune is a glue card that looks innocent, but performs a vital and efficient function that drastically increases the reliability of a deck like that. Cards like that are anything but weak.
That's not my narrative. That's just what is being discussed now. Whether or not its factual or otherwise is what is being discussed. Don't try to convince me; I'm against harassment and just observing. The sole purpose of my post was to point out that jeremy vs sprankle has virtually nothing to do with whats going on in your white house. At all.
There's a greater narrative outside of the scope of these events, related to a rising phenomenon in America that does make this about that, but honestly the mods have asked everyone to steer things back so it would probably be best if that was done. More pertinently, what happened with to miss Sprankle does not exist in the vacuum and what people have seen in Hollywood and elsewhere naturally colours the narrative of these events for understandable reasons. In consideration of why that is important for understanding why this happened it's important. But it's hard to actually discuss that if people are going to continually try to debate these things in bad faith. That benefits no one.
It was an article that was needed, it was well done and spot on in its assessments and I cannot thank the person who wrote it enough. The sad thing is that most of the responses to it are mired in the very lack of self reflection that defines the current era and lies at the heart of the "alternative fact." reality that a growing and disturbing amount of people feel they are entitled to. It's born out of a movement that in seeking to normalize it's views as simply one amongst many, feel it is necessary to attempt to strip actions and words of all meaning then hide in this muddied waters to justify itself.
It is NEVER okay or justified or a valid critique to attempt to **** shame people.
It is NEVER okay or justified to decry people compelled by sensitivity born out of empathy as being nothing but "virtue signalers." because your own self loathing and misapplied rage created by a sensitivity born out of fear compels you to label other people's motivations as cynical and selfish.
There is no justified argument predicated on disliking someone merely for the brute fact of their gender or sex, ethnicity,etc nor would that argument be grounded in reason.
If that bothers you so be it, because what you are attempting to normalize and characterize as simply another point of view is anything but. It is an abject failure to uphold even the bare minimum of human decency and frankly it should not have to be explained to you. It should be instinctual that you do not treat people like that.
This young man put himself in the position he is finding himself in. He chose his words, he chose his actions and those have consequences. Consequences yet to be fully realized in so far as WoTC and the capacity of any sub culture to uphold and create standards for itself can enforce.
If you feel compelled to think this is a free speech thing, or both sides thing, you are tragically mistaken. It's a personal responsibility and a discipline thing. If you can't create an environment for a sub culture formed around a hobby that doesn't attempt to foster this sort of discrimination and harassment then you do not need to be a part of it. It's a privilege, not something to be handed to you and the rest of us having standards against is not something anyone needs to apologize for. If that seems harsh or ostracizing then you need to take some time to self reflect on what it is you are doing that merited that response. Grow up. You'll be better off for it in the end.
As really cool as Marit Lage would be(and I do think they need to revisit that oddity), I don't think that is what we are going to get. Still the set and it's story is looking very nice so far.
Literally googled "swat called on streamer" and behold, a bunch of people being dragged off their houses because of false flags. Most of them "gamergators".
So if you disagree with tumblr you desserve a trigger-happy paramilitary squad dragging you off your house.
Googled the same thing, read the first two pages of people being SWATted. No 'gamergators', no mention of 'SJWs' or anything that could even vaguely be interpreted that way, two _critics_ of Gamergate though. Clearly two very different sets of search results.
I have this theory that, thanks to the internet, the really virulent crazies in every group get thrown into harsh relief. I'm fairly sure that a quick google would show, for example, Gamergators engaging in many of the behaviours you complain about upthread.
Gamergate has a pretty extensive history of doing scummy stuff then accusing their so called SJW enemies of it.
That this is even a thread is laughable, and not in the funny way. No neo nazi's and other right wing psycho scum is still worse than a pejorative thrown out, usually by other right wing psycho scum, about some people.
My head is still swimming with the victory that was won yesterday.
Were people actually surprised by this ruling?
Maybe I spend too much time talking to other attorneys, but I thought everyone knew that this was going to happen after the DOMA decision. And even if by some bizarre happenstance the Court had ruled against gay marriage, they would have reversed themselves within 2-5 years when the next conservative justice retires. Even the Onion knew.
If you're surprised that there were a lot of people, A. Waiting until it actually happened to breathe that sigh of relief and feel the joy. and B. Were overwhelmed by joy at the announcement. I don't know what to tell you.
Best spam ever. Asked me in the 90's and I would have told you it would not have come this quickly. My head is still swimming with the victory that was won yesterday.
Ah, and this is why I (and many others) stay away from this forum. I'm going to go back to doing that.
This just seems like a breeding ground for endless hypothetical questions and straying away from common sense to theorize.
Also, It's a major downer to have people comparing my constitutional right under the 14th Amendment to marry my husband to someone who wants to marry their little sister. If I have to argue the difference then I'm already losing because I'm wasting my time.
While it helps I really don't play Magic anymore and don't frequent here anymore, ignoring them has been a boon. The tears of impotent rage & insulting speculations was dealt a major blow today and I'm going to keep my eye on the wonderful way the lives of so many Americans have been improved today because those are the people that matter. Not the petty ones.
That's not a response, that's you ignoring the fact you asked a question answered in the very article you claim to have read. Nor does it actually address the situation in the format that prompted the bannings. It doesn't even make sense in regards to the article since the article specifically mentions that going wide and lifegain WAS an effective strategy against RR. Which Ferocidon wrecks.
*An insular mechanic from an older set running over a format shifts attention away from new cards.
*That's a non sequitur.
No you asked why would they ban the card when it fights against tokens and life gain strategies when the article literally spells out why banning the card, in order to enable that angle of attack against RR, which calls into question why you would ask a question that was already answered directly by the article. Straw manning other people's posts doesn't make that any less nonsensical.
Did you read the banning article? Because making sure that decks that go wide or use life gain can fight back against RR was why the card was banned. /facepalm
There's a greater narrative outside of the scope of these events, related to a rising phenomenon in America that does make this about that, but honestly the mods have asked everyone to steer things back so it would probably be best if that was done. More pertinently, what happened with to miss Sprankle does not exist in the vacuum and what people have seen in Hollywood and elsewhere naturally colours the narrative of these events for understandable reasons. In consideration of why that is important for understanding why this happened it's important. But it's hard to actually discuss that if people are going to continually try to debate these things in bad faith. That benefits no one.
It is NEVER okay or justified or a valid critique to attempt to **** shame people.
It is NEVER okay or justified to decry people compelled by sensitivity born out of empathy as being nothing but "virtue signalers." because your own self loathing and misapplied rage created by a sensitivity born out of fear compels you to label other people's motivations as cynical and selfish.
There is no justified argument predicated on disliking someone merely for the brute fact of their gender or sex, ethnicity,etc nor would that argument be grounded in reason.
If that bothers you so be it, because what you are attempting to normalize and characterize as simply another point of view is anything but. It is an abject failure to uphold even the bare minimum of human decency and frankly it should not have to be explained to you. It should be instinctual that you do not treat people like that.
This young man put himself in the position he is finding himself in. He chose his words, he chose his actions and those have consequences. Consequences yet to be fully realized in so far as WoTC and the capacity of any sub culture to uphold and create standards for itself can enforce.
If you feel compelled to think this is a free speech thing, or both sides thing, you are tragically mistaken. It's a personal responsibility and a discipline thing. If you can't create an environment for a sub culture formed around a hobby that doesn't attempt to foster this sort of discrimination and harassment then you do not need to be a part of it. It's a privilege, not something to be handed to you and the rest of us having standards against is not something anyone needs to apologize for. If that seems harsh or ostracizing then you need to take some time to self reflect on what it is you are doing that merited that response. Grow up. You'll be better off for it in the end.
Gamergate has a pretty extensive history of doing scummy stuff then accusing their so called SJW enemies of it.
If you're surprised that there were a lot of people, A. Waiting until it actually happened to breathe that sigh of relief and feel the joy. and B. Were overwhelmed by joy at the announcement. I don't know what to tell you.
Best spam ever. Asked me in the 90's and I would have told you it would not have come this quickly. My head is still swimming with the victory that was won yesterday.
While it helps I really don't play Magic anymore and don't frequent here anymore, ignoring them has been a boon. The tears of impotent rage & insulting speculations was dealt a major blow today and I'm going to keep my eye on the wonderful way the lives of so many Americans have been improved today because those are the people that matter. Not the petty ones.