So you're saying that those of with the deck should play as much as possible online before the B&R date. Well if I must, I can take one for the team. For the sake of the format.
Considering moving a large chunk of modern staples (lotv, snaps, fetches, shocks etc.) what do you think would be the best way to offload?
I'm looking for cash, no store credit or trades. I'm just at a point with my collection that stuff like MH1 is making it too expensive to keep up. I also can't really justify having this much money in cardboard I don't even play at my LGS because I always default to the same few decks.
Most everything is playsets. I also have quite a few older things hat have spiked in the last couple years (not reserved list) that I want to move.
I was planning on talking to LGS and players I know first, but I'm at a loss after that. I think the volume of cards is going to cause a big retailer like star city games to fight me in a lot of the grading.
If you don't plan on selling individually, your best bet is to buylist them. And yes, they may fight you on condition, but if they do, say "please send those back to me" and sell them individually then. There is really no easy way to sell lots of cards without either losing lots of value or losing lots of time.
Let's just say that my expectations for Wizards are exceedingly low. Anything other than "no changes" will be considered a good thing for Modern. But yes, given their continued display of incompetence with regards to the inner workings of the format, I could very easily see them coming out and saying "This is fine. None of us extensively play Modern, but our spreadsheets say this is OK. No changes."
They look absolutely amazing, but good God, they couldn't have picked like... good and playable cards? Teferi? Narset? Karn? Anything? What a disappointment.
To be fair, these collections aren't exactly meant for competitive players - they're meant for collectors.
Collectible bad cards don't hold value. Just go look at many of the past SDCC cards. The ones that see play are astronomical. The ones that don't are $20-30.
until you try to buy or sell something, that something is worth exactly 0$ and most collector would never sell their collectibles. So, what does it matter if these cards are worth money or not on the secondary market? (unless you see them as an "investment" instead of a collectible, of course).
I have spent the last several years buying and selling the sdcc Planeswalker sets. I routinely go with several of my friends at Comic-Con to buy these. I generally make enough money to sustain keeping one set, and making a reasonable profit selling the rest. (the only one I still actually have is a full color-matched signed set of the Terese Nielson ones from last year). This will probably be the least productive set they've ever done; considerably worse then the amonkhet ones 2 years ago.
It's a shame, because the art style and design is absolutely amazing. I wish that would have been done to Teferi, Narset, Karn, and cards that actually see considerable play.
They look absolutely amazing, but good God, they couldn't have picked like... good and playable cards? Teferi? Narset? Karn? Anything? What a disappointment.
To be fair, these collections aren't exactly meant for competitive players - they're meant for collectors.
Collectible bad cards don't hold value. Just go look at many of the past SDCC cards. The ones that see play are astronomical. The ones that don't are $20-30.
They look absolutely amazing, but good God, they couldn't have picked like... good and playable cards? Teferi? Narset? Karn? Anything? What a disappointment.
So if people are weary of Hogaak's ban potential as soon as two weeks from now, and refuse to buy it in paper to show it off dominating a large GP, then we're just in for yet another period of insufferable misery in Modern?
I remember when "battle of sideboards" was a ban criteria. Now 8 pieces of GY hate in your 75 is supposed to be "normal."
The report says they were surprised it was not played more, being so dominant: "We had two copies of the deck in our Hamilton Top 8, and from where I’m sitting, that number is actually pretty low for how good this deck is compared to the rest of the format."
Either buy it now or sell it now, I'd say.
People are likely hesitant to buy in since it will very likely be banned. With Eldrazi, the opportunity cost of so many free wins was small since, other than Eye of Ugin, pretty much everything in the deck was dirt cheap and available in current Standard sets. If you don't have Vengevines, Bloodghasts, Bridges, Gravecrawlers, and Hogaak himself (in addition to the black fetchlands, you're looking at a LOT of money to buy into a deck that is very likely not set to live past July 8th.
It's a lot easier and faster to buy/sell/change decks on MTGO, but paper metas are much slower. Buying cards is a more weighty investment, and selling them is slow and arduous for most players. As a result, paper metas are often filled with Cards_I_Own.dec (also helping to contribute to the idea of "diversity").
Probe hit 2 decks, and forced 1 to be even better.
It also hit Grixis Control and many Delver strategies, which have been irrelevant ever since. Who knows if they would have survived anyway? But it was a killing blow to Delver with the addition of Fatal Push.
Looting, is too important a piece of the format imo. Its our Brainstorm.
I no longer care. Looting is an atrocity. And if they're going to look us in the face and tell us Looting is OK, then why in the living hell is Preordain banned?
Bridge + Altar will kill the deck, and if thats the goal, so be it.
Bridge or Altar have to go. Anything else is just leaving the door open for more "battle of sideboards" graveyard abuse. I also wouldn't mind just a blanket shot at removing Looting. They didn't care about killing multiple offending and collateral decks when they banned Probe, why should Looting be any different?
For the record, I own four foil signed copies of Faithless Looting. I would be happy to never see or play that card in Modern ever again.
For some context on Twin: when it was legal, Electrolyze was a playable Magic card. Lightning Bolt killed a lot of relevant things. Remand had a meaningful tempo impact. Graveyards were almost exclusively Tarmogoyf buffs. And the decks which could kill fast (Infect and Burn) got hosed by cards like Electrolyze, Bolt, Tap-Your-Attacker, and Sure-I'll-Block. Nowadays, best fast decks don't care about discard, don't care about removal, don't care about counterspells, and kill faster and more consistently than either of those used to. Sometimes they even do it through many of the targetedpiecesofhatewe'reforcedtoplay.
Meanwhile, a 1/2 that sometimes fetches a 4/4 is banned. Good grief.
On the other hand I am encouraged by MH1. The strong new hogaak combo is my kind of deck, and several decks got some new peices. People in my area bought lots of it so hopefully they will make more sets like this. We should have gotten counterspell though.
I don't know how attached I would get to the Hogaak deck. If there is any justice in the world, that horrid monstrosity will be killed off in the next B&R. It is stupidly fast, powerful, resilient, and hard to hate out.
Bolt and Remand ain't what they used to be, and Turn 4 is an eternity, if you even have it and jam it totally unprotected.
Completely separately, Wizards has demonstrated multiple times that they have absolutely no basic understanding of the Modern format. Sometimes to the point of utter embarrassment.
Did you happen to see the "Hogaak vs Banned List video series from SCG? It's long, but fairly enlightening, and lots of interesting commentary.
Isn't it time for the obligatory SFM unban hype train?
I have long since lost any confidence in WOTC doing anything remotely competent with regards to the banned list. At least while they continue to break graveyard decks set after set after set.
She should absolutely be unbanned, along with Twin. But I don't think either of those will ever see the light of day, because of the aforementioned incompetence about modern that WOTC holds.
I believe in you! Do it for the greater good!
If you don't plan on selling individually, your best bet is to buylist them. And yes, they may fight you on condition, but if they do, say "please send those back to me" and sell them individually then. There is really no easy way to sell lots of cards without either losing lots of value or losing lots of time.
I have spent the last several years buying and selling the sdcc Planeswalker sets. I routinely go with several of my friends at Comic-Con to buy these. I generally make enough money to sustain keeping one set, and making a reasonable profit selling the rest. (the only one I still actually have is a full color-matched signed set of the Terese Nielson ones from last year). This will probably be the least productive set they've ever done; considerably worse then the amonkhet ones 2 years ago.
It's a shame, because the art style and design is absolutely amazing. I wish that would have been done to Teferi, Narset, Karn, and cards that actually see considerable play.
Collectible bad cards don't hold value. Just go look at many of the past SDCC cards. The ones that see play are astronomical. The ones that don't are $20-30.
Edit: And why the hell no Ilharg??
I remember when "battle of sideboards" was a ban criteria. Now 8 pieces of GY hate in your 75 is supposed to be "normal."
Why do I play this format again? /shrug
People are likely hesitant to buy in since it will very likely be banned. With Eldrazi, the opportunity cost of so many free wins was small since, other than Eye of Ugin, pretty much everything in the deck was dirt cheap and available in current Standard sets. If you don't have Vengevines, Bloodghasts, Bridges, Gravecrawlers, and Hogaak himself (in addition to the black fetchlands, you're looking at a LOT of money to buy into a deck that is very likely not set to live past July 8th.
It's a lot easier and faster to buy/sell/change decks on MTGO, but paper metas are much slower. Buying cards is a more weighty investment, and selling them is slow and arduous for most players. As a result, paper metas are often filled with Cards_I_Own.dec (also helping to contribute to the idea of "diversity").
It also hit Grixis Control and many Delver strategies, which have been irrelevant ever since. Who knows if they would have survived anyway? But it was a killing blow to Delver with the addition of Fatal Push.
I no longer care. Looting is an atrocity. And if they're going to look us in the face and tell us Looting is OK, then why in the living hell is Preordain banned?
Nuke it from orbit.
For the record, I own four foil signed copies of Faithless Looting. I would be happy to never see or play that card in Modern ever again.
Meanwhile, a 1/2 that sometimes fetches a 4/4 is banned. Good grief.
I don't know how attached I would get to the Hogaak deck. If there is any justice in the world, that horrid monstrosity will be killed off in the next B&R. It is stupidly fast, powerful, resilient, and hard to hate out.
Completely separately, Wizards has demonstrated multiple times that they have absolutely no basic understanding of the Modern format. Sometimes to the point of utter embarrassment.
Did you happen to see the "Hogaak vs Banned List video series from SCG? It's long, but fairly enlightening, and lots of interesting commentary.
Check out this video "VS Live! | Hogaak VS The Modern Banlist | Modern" http://www.twitch.tv/scgtour/v/441759362?sr=a&t=0s
I have long since lost any confidence in WOTC doing anything remotely competent with regards to the banned list. At least while they continue to break graveyard decks set after set after set.
She should absolutely be unbanned, along with Twin. But I don't think either of those will ever see the light of day, because of the aforementioned incompetence about modern that WOTC holds.
Is the sacrifice line a triggered ability that can be abused with Amulet of Vigor to get the 3 mana first?