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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Quote from AvalonAurora »
    Thought Scour targeting yourself would see some play in the same sort of decks. I mean, I've seen that with Thought Scour, but not as often as I'd think if the graveyard aspect was the only thing making FL see the play it does.

    Thought Scour is a 4x staple of both Phoenix and GDS, decks which use the card for its benefit to the graveyard. Dredge doesn't play it because they don't/can't reliably make blue mana to actually cast it. If they could cast it, they absolutely would. It puts two things into the GY and draws AFTERWARDS, meaning you could hit a Dredger off the first two, and then Dredge with your draw.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    There is no way around a Looting ban. The card is way too powerful.

    People are packing a bunch of gy hate and dredge still has a 56% winrate. That is ridicolous

    Much like my view of Probe, I find it ironic that a card which has been legal in Modern for nearly the entirety of the existence of the format, is suddenly broken. But nobody seems to address that the reason why it's "broken" is specifically due to new printings that abuse free, uncounterable graveyard abilities.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on Do you enjoy modern right now?
    Quote from MrTzoulis »
    I expected that you, of all people, would enjoy a UR deck, with high velocity, a strong Plan A that's difficult to disrupt, that when it is interacted with, can fall back to good Plan B and a mediocre Plan C. A deck that out of the sideboard can morph into a great Blood Moon deck, but can also interact with it's opponents plans.
    I do not enjoy the linear play lines it promotes with any of its main game plans. I wish I could discuss this (and several other things you mention) further, but I don't need more infractions. Luckily I have enough redundant pieces and staples to have it and GDS fully sleeved up at any point, but I generally choose to enjoy a deck that plays with my opponent, rather than at them. I enjoy Phoenix about as much as I enjoyed the (very brief) stint I had with Storm.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on Do you enjoy modern right now?
    I think some of the views of Modern are similar to how bocephus would constantly tell players to get better and adapt, even throughout Eldrazi Winter. He would ignore any result of any big tournament and all of MTGO by citing his multiple LGS stories and random Leagues to show how everything is fine and Modern is healthy and diverse.

    I wish I could enjoy the format as much as those people. I wish I could be playing the format these people are playing.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    No Teferi reprint is interesting. At least he is falling out of favor in Standard somewhat and UW is still pretty bad in Modern... I sold my copies with the prediction of a reprint, but honestly, I can't even bring myself to play him anyway, so I guess that's not a total loss.

    Arclight Phoenix only having one copy is better than 0 copies. Assuming it survives a ban, it should help keep costs under control.

    Interestingly, there seems to be no mention of these coming to MTGO, where Phoenix is already past $55/ea.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Quote from gkourou »
    Earlier this week, Ross Merriam did a great job of outlining the fact that Arclight Phoenix is actually a fair deck...

    That's adorable that he thinks that.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    From twitter:

    #MTGBilbao Semifinal results:

    2010 World Champion Guillaume Matignon defeats Thomas Rasmussen in an Izzet Phoenix mirror

    Now six-time GP Top 8 competitor Louis-Samuel Deltour (Whir Prison) triumphs over Joseba Garcia (Dredge).

    EDIT: Matignon on UR Phoenix takes down Bilbao

    So this gets updated:

    Since Printing Phoenix on 10/5/18
    Total GPs: 6
    Total copies of Phoenix in T8: 9
    Avg copies per GP: 1.5 (?, 2*, 2*, 2, 1*, 2, 0) *Win
    Winners: 3* (Don't know Tampa results yet)

    Twin in all of 2015
    Total GPs: 8
    Total copies of Twin in T8: 10
    Avg copies per GP: 1.25 (3*, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1*, 0) *Win
    Winners: 2 (vastly different builds, nearly a year apart)

    Either Phoenix gets banned, Twin gets unbanned, or WOTC are just massive hypocrites who sold us on a bulls**t banning three years ago.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Phoenix is putting up competitive numbers Twin could only dream of.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Everything is fine. Modern is healthy. No need to comment further, I guess. I need to take a break from this thread...
    Infraction issued for trolling. --CavalryWolfPack
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Quote from Lord Seth »
    I am curious, if it is banned, what will they ban? Faithless Looting and Arclight Phoenix seem to be the only plausible choices, but which one?

    Honestly, probably Manamorphose. No good has ever come from any deck playing that card. The problem is what to do about Dredge too. In my opinion, that should be hit with Creeping Chill, Bloodghast, or Prized Amalgam too. But knowing WOTC, they'll be "super clever" and want to target Looting because it hits both decks and players have been clamoring for it. If they want to do the same thing they did with Pod and Twin, then you hit Arclight Phoenix itself and then tell players with a straight face that similar builds are fine without it.
    Posted in: Modern
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