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    posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    Quote from Lord Seth »
    The inclusion of the Swords makes me wonder if we may see the printing of a "fixed" Stoneforge Mystic that will work with the Swords but not Batterskull (e.g. a Stoneforge Mystic that only works with equipment that costs 3 or less).

    Stoneforge doesn't need fixing. Nothing it does is remotely as powerful as all of the rest of Modern. What... what..? what.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Quote from Ym1r »
    Really this is not a valid general argument. A personal desire or grudge, sure. But we all have one.

    It's different when your deck was banned for "suppressing" all these other decks that were supposed to flourish, compared to a deck just always being bad or falling out of favor over time through natural evolution.

    Either way, I have no desire to discuss this further. New cards look interesting and I will put them in all sorts of bad decks that I don't expect to win with.

    Carry on.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    Quote from Quamobrem »
    Black/Red sword seems a lot better than Blue/White sword. If swords in general are ever good enough again (And that new goblin seems kind of specifically designed for them?), this is a great SB card.
    Without Stoneforge, they will continue to be as unplayable as they've always been. Feast/Famine is absolutely nuts good, Light/Shadow is a great engine for creatures, Fire/Ice is an excellent value engine and clock.

    And none of them see play. Frown

    These new ones will be great for Commander and Legacy. They will be ultimately meaningless in Modern.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Quote from ktkenshinx »
    Quote from cfusionpm »
    Quote from ktkenshinx »
    Blue doesn't need more help. I know that folks like CFP will point out that URx is doing much worse than UWx, but that's not a plausible indictment of blue's viability. That's just a complaint about a specific pairing.

    Remember when diversity of blue reactive decks used to matter? And how a deck was banned over such a view? I guess that doesn't matter anymore right? Just "shut up, take UW and like it"?

    I think you'll enjoy the format more if you move past the Twin ban.

    It has nothing to do with the Twin ban, it has everything to do with play patterns. I have greatly enjoyed Modern once I stopped caring about winning and just played my trashy blue decks (usually Blue Moon variants) and humbly 3-2 and 4-1 most FNMs, usually getting stomped by obnoxious nonsense like Dredge and Hollow One that's still around.

    The point I am getting at is more on principle. If the idea that a deck supplanting others actually matters, than UW is supplanting other reactive blue decks. As mentioned, this was enough of a reason to cite within a ban announcement. If they want to come out and say that reason was a load of horses**t, then fine. But if they accept that was a reasonable justification, then why do they continue to force UW, thus supplanting all other reactive blue decks? Could it be that they simply just didn't like Twin? And just came up with a bunch of thinly-veiled, nonsensical BS to justify removing it? Yeah, I wonder why that would leave a lasting impression... especially after more than a handful of stints in which the format was the worst it has ever been. What... what..? what.

    I guess it's just inevitable that, as a result of my Snap Bolt deck supplanting too many other reactive Snap Bolt decks, and whose removal resulted in no Snap Bolt reactive decks being actually any good, that would frustrate someone who just wants to play a damn Snap Bolt deck. Hopefully one that doesn't get utterly steamrolled by pretty much all the top decks in the format, and whose life is limited to beating up on janky brews and bad budget FNM decks.

    Once you stop caring about winning, it's almost enjoyable! I look forward to playing bad Mentor decks with the new free protection spell.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Quote from Ym1r »
    I guess you mean URx control decks, because UR phoenix is doing just find. As a matter of fact, right now there are 2 mainly U and 1 party U decks at tier 1: UW control, UR Phoenix, and Grixis DS. That's not only 3 blue decks, but three distinctly different blue decks.

    Yep, you have an aggro/combo deck, which is basically just replacing Storm, you have black-based "Jund with Negate", and then you have the only reasonable U-based reactive deck, as well as a variant of the same deck that plays Bolt and is considerably worse. Sure, I guess UW isn't "reducing diversity by supplanting similar decks"? Weird

    Phoenix supplanted Storm, GDS supplanted Jund, and UW supplanted every other reactive blue deck.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Quote from ktkenshinx »
    Blue doesn't need more help. I know that folks like CFP will point out that URx is doing much worse than UWx, but that's not a plausible indictment of blue's viability. That's just a complaint about a specific pairing.

    Remember when diversity of blue reactive decks used to matter? And how a deck was banned over such a view? I guess that doesn't matter anymore right? Just "shut up, take UW and like it"?

    Hopefully these new tools will give some help to decks that are not UW, and I know damn sure that I will be pushing that myself. But it is absolutely justified to complain about that considering all of the past actions and explanations given to us over several years, as well as their desire to push blue reactive decks in general and promote the diversity within those decks. Instead, they let them flounder for 2+ years and then exclusively make UW the only playable control color. So much for "diversity." I guess it wasn't really that important to suppress and supplant similar decks.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    Quote from tronix »
    Quote from blacklotus »
    i bought 4x bought contaiment priest could this be in MH??
    i believe containment priest was already number crunched out of the set

    Yep. Goes straight from B to D. No room for Containment Priest. Frown

    https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/810024-modern-horizons-name-and-number-crunch

    They could just print some other new version that does something similar, but slightly worse (as they have done for other cards).
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Quote from Spsiegel1987 »
    As a therapist in real life, I have to say I've never seen ptsd occur from the banning of a card before.


    I mean, did the twin ban fail? Yup. Does blue have a bunch of good, viable tier 1 and tier 2 decks? Yeah. You're making this hard, man.

    It's more a matter of I don't want someone misquoting or misrepresenting, to me, what my beliefs or views are or should be. Especially when I have explained them thoroughly multiple times. Honestly, I don't care as much as it probably seems like online, but online discussions usually trend toward extremes fairly quickly (I'm also only teaching part time this year to spend time with my newborn, and have WAY TOO MUCH FREE TIME to sit in front of a computer). For me personally, my tie is mostly because I spent thousands of dollars and years of my life playing Snap Bolt decks and loving every minute of it. All I want in Magic is to play a competitive Snap Bolt deck, which is what I'd spent the last 3 and a half years searching for (and found a few before Probe and Push took away Delver, Geist became irrelevant, and Moon ain't what it used to be, no matter what wincon you shove in, etc). All the while, having people tell me to play these other things that are nothing like it, and to shut up and enjoy it because it plays islands. Whatevs. I play bad decks and no longer care about winning.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on Modern Horizons Discussion Thread
    +1/+1 and Proliferate seem incredibly underwhelming compared to pretty much all the others besides Body/Mind. A sword would have to be better than Feast/Famine and still wouldn't see play without Stoneforge. There's just no place for a 5 mana investment that is so easily disrupted in a format as brutality fast and efficient as Modern.
    Posted in: Modern
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    posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 20/05/2019)
    Hey look! Another reminder that we don't have Stoneforge Mystic!

    As neat as it is, even if the cycle is fully completed, these equipment are no more playable than they have been for the last several years.

    Maybe they'll pull the rug out and surprise us with her?
    Posted in: Modern
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