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  • posted a message on Prime Speaker Vannifar - Birthing Pod Reborn?
    This is just as good a replacement for Pod as Kiki Jiki was for Twin.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Yeah, I can't imagine Teferi NOT being included in one of these Challenge Decks and will be selling mine asap. I already have no real desire to play UW anymore anyway. Also, based on the overall lackluster UW stuff in RNA, it seems like a safe bet Teferi won't be going up in price.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 26/11/2018)
    "Competitive Magic is the art of correctly generalizing from sample sizes too small to draw real conclusions."
    https://mobile.twitter.com/Ajelenbogen/status/1083444796956524544

    Probably the most brief and accurate take on Magic as a whole, and hyper relevant to Modern.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [POLL] What cards do you want banned or unbanned in the January 21, 2019, announcement?
    Quote from idSurge »
    Quote from cfusionpm »
    Quote from gkourou »
    At this point, I am totally sure it's no bans or ban KCI.
    As for unbans, it's either nothing or SFM.

    Yeah, what I think will happen and what should happen are very different things. I would be shocked by any unban whatsoever, and there's probably a 50/50 shot they "no changes" us instead of hitting KCI. They have long since said that they consider this chaotic mess "healthy" and as long as data is shrouded in mystery, they can hide behind "no changes" until something gets as bad as Eldrazi (which is what they've been doing for 2 years).


    I'm just going to tell you right now, if we get no changes, and ESPECIALLY no explanation, I'm going to be on full tilt for a week, and will probably need to take a break away from the forums. :p

    Honestly, I'd just play Standard. Modern has been a trash pile for a while, and if it continues down that path with no change in sight, I'll probably stop playing in paper and jam on Arena instead. Maybe that's what they want.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [POLL] What cards do you want banned or unbanned in the January 21, 2019, announcement?
    Quote from gkourou »
    At this point, I am totally sure it's no bans or ban KCI.
    As for unbans, it's either nothing or SFM.

    Yeah, what I think will happen and what should happen are very different things. I would be shocked by any unban whatsoever, and there's probably a 50/50 shot they "no changes" us instead of hitting KCI. They have long since said that they consider this chaotic mess "healthy" and as long as data is shrouded in mystery, they can hide behind "no changes" until something gets as bad as Eldrazi (which is what they've been doing for 2 years).
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [POLL] What cards do you want banned or unbanned in the January 21, 2019, announcement?
    Quote from armanski »
    Killing any deck, even if you don't like it is a bad move for wizards and for the format in general.


    I agree. Hopefully they use the next announcement to fix that.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 26/11/2018)
    Having played a decent amount of UR Birds, the deck is a combination of Dredge and Storm that isn't crippled by the hate used for either. It's a bit too linear and uninteresting for me to continue playing, but it is very powerful.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 26/11/2018)
    My stance is that the most powerful things she is absolutely capable of are objectively weaker than the things capable of nearly every other top deck. And it's not even really close.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 26/11/2018)
    Quote from gkourou »
    Quote from cfusionpm »
    Quote from gkourou »
    Well, in another meta, SFM could be too good for Modern. Notably a midrange one. We are far off that meta though, and I doubt we are ever coming back. Also, with K - Com, abrade, fatal push and other prints, answers for her are more than enough. Oh, Terminus is a thing also. She sucks vs terminus.

    I greatly disagree that SFM would be good in a "midrange" format. Not only is that something that will likely never happen to Modern, but you seem to answer that 'problem' yourself by stating that these midrange decks would simply load up on disruption and removal; which completely destroy SFM's gameplan. Without the free or extremely efficient protection/taxing effects available to Legacy (where she is still just OK and not amazing, and that's WITH Jitte), she will never be close to "broken" and will likely never even be above "sort of good, I guess."


    Well, Turn 1 hand disruption, take your spot removal into turn 2 SFM is not something we should snug off that easily. For example, some years ago, SFM would be instantly rebanned if unbanned(up until 2015).

    I would love nothing more than for my opponent to spend 4 mana over 2 turns to accomplish something objectively weaker than what the majority of top decks are capable of. I hope people play this card if unbanned, so I can utterly stomp all over it with any of the decks I play.

    Every time I die within the first four or five turns of the game, I often think (and sometimes out loud): "Could you imagine how much worse it would have been if my opponent tapped out for Stoneforge Mystic instead?" And then I laugh as I die to some broken nonsense.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 26/11/2018)
    Quote from gkourou »
    Well, in another meta, SFM could be too good for Modern. Notably a midrange one. We are far off that meta though, and I doubt we are ever coming back. Also, with K - Com, abrade, fatal push and other prints, answers for her are more than enough. Oh, Terminus is a thing also. She sucks vs terminus.

    I greatly disagree that SFM would be good in a "midrange" format. Not only is that something that will likely never happen to Modern, but you seem to answer that 'problem' yourself by stating that these midrange decks would simply load up on disruption and removal; which completely destroy SFM's gameplan. Without the free or extremely efficient protection/taxing effects available to Legacy (where she is still just OK and not amazing, and that's WITH Jitte), she will never be close to "broken" and will likely never even be above "sort of good, I guess."
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 26/11/2018)
    The issue with SFM is really: What is the most powerful thing it can do?

    1) It can put into play a 4/4 Vigilance Lifelink artifact on turn 3, after tapping out on turn 2, and then also using 2 mana on turn 3, and then the token still can't even attack until turn 4.
    2) It can get one of the five "Sword of (X) & (Y)" equipment and... beat in after turn 3 for incremental value?
    Side note: neither Batterskull nor Swords see ANY meaningful play WHATSOEVER, due to the rise and efficiency of artifact removal. Mostly due to Kolaghan's Command, but also newly-added Abrade, and classic Ancient Grudge.

    Meanwhile, here's a non-comprehensive list of things off the top of my head, which the top decks can do by turn 3 or 4:
    - Attacking for 13+ with flipped Thing in the Ice and 2 Phoenix
    - Karn, Ugin, Wurmcoil Engine, etc.
    - Multiple 1 mana 5/5s and 12/12s
    - Multiple free 4/4s
    - Dredging 15+ power onto the board
    - Primeval Titan (Valakuts or Amulets)
    - Killed by Storm
    - Killed by Infect
    - Killed by KCI
    - Killed by Burn
    etc, etc, etc...

    Meanwhile, some of the most played cards in Modern are forms of creature removal and hand disruption that both kill Stoneforge herself, or can take the equipment out of hand. It's also a format that lacks any meaningful ways to protect her that are available in other formats, such as Force, Daze, Mother of Runes, and various taxing lands. Stoneforge Mystic is not only NOT overpowered, I'd argue it's not good at all in Modern. I heavily predict that, if unbanned, she would have little to no meaningful impact after the initial wave of people jamming and forcing it, which is exactly what happened with Jace.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [RNA] Ravnica Allegiance Previews: Modern Discussion
    Quote from Lectrys »
    I agree with izzetmage: Shimmer of Possibility and Tin Street Dodger look like the best of the cards spoiled today. SoP is a lame sorcery version of Impulse, but it just might dig hard enough to land it a slot. 8-Whack may be pretty interested in a Haste 1-cmc 1/1 Goblin that doesn't take much to be nigh-unblockable, though.

    Shimmer seems extremely lackluster. We already have Anticipate, which sees no play and is an instant. Is digging 1 card deeper worth tapping mana on your own turn? I feel like the only deck that will play this is Storm with their cost reducers, but is arguably worse than Pieces of the Puzzle, which digs deeper, takes an extra card, and has huge synergy with Past in Flames.

    Overall, the set looks pretty underwhelming compared to GRN. Hopefully something slips through and is accidentally really good.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 26/11/2018)
    Quote from metalmusic_4 »
    Thanks for all that info. I read that when it was announced but didn't link that to future announcements. I guess we'll see when it happens, but SFM is almost a given IMO.

    To be fair, SFM has been "a given" for something like 2+ years. It is laughably less powerful than what pretty much all top decks are currently capable of, and was banned for the sins of a completely different format. It is fairly widely agreed that its continued ban has nothing to do with its power, but instead optics and perception.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance Mythic Edition
    Teferi sees play as a 4x in multiple top Standard decks and is the lifeblood card of all UW-based control in Modern. Dack only sees minor to moderate play in Commander, Legacy, and Vintage. Two of those formats see little to no meaningful play in paper. No way this is as much as Teferi now, but might be post-rotation.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Ravnica Allegiance Mythic Edition
    I'll add that after paying $550 for two boxes of the last set, I have no interest in these. There are so many better PWs they could have chosen.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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