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  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from Arkmer »
    Quote from cfusionpm »
    Quote from Arkmer »
    They did say in the article that they will be using the Hasbro eBay.

    I'm only curious how you get past the "2 per person" limit.

    A seller on eBay can very easily cancel any order from any buyer for any reason.
    I meant more "how do I get 4?"

    Multiple ebay accounts with multiple shipping addresses. But as a long time seller myself, if I see something fishy, I can cancel the order outright for anyone I feel I don't want to ship to for any reason.

    In the words of Matt Mercer: you can certainly try.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from Arkmer »
    They did say in the article that they will be using the Hasbro eBay.

    I'm only curious how you get past the "2 per person" limit.

    A seller on eBay can very easily cancel any order from any buyer for any reason.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Outside of the single case of Ramunap Ruins, WOTC has never, ever even mentioned win rates. They have however, cited GP performance, in the form of Top 8 placements and wins, in nearly every ban ever.

    Under any normal circumstances, Phoenix would eat a ban, and anyone telling themselves otherwise is kidding themselves or making the exact same arguments people complained about Twin defenders making.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Quote from gkourou »
    To be honest, I don't see UR Phoenix that way. CFB reported a 50% win rate of the deck. This is fine, if you ask me. It's just that lots of people wanted to play a UR deck, since it's fun and people seen to like playing it.

    That was enough to get banned in the past. As was its GP dominance. The single, and only, reason it wouldn't be banned now is that they expect Horizons to sufficiently shake things up. Under any normal circumstances, the deck would be gone. There is absolutely no question about that. If it's not, then the entire format's history worth of ban precedence is meaningless.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Like I said, the only reason Phoenix isn't getting nuked from orbit is because Horizon and WAR are supposed to shake things up enough. But under any other circumstances, something from the deck WILL be going at the next B&R. And who knows, they might just do that anyway.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Quote from gkourou »
    Humans is not a linear deck. It has a lot of meaningful interactions with the opponent. This is not the worst top 8!
    Hence the /aggro. Smileup
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    http://coverage.channelfireball.com/2019/mtgsaopaulo

    Hey look, another double Phoenix Top 8. And, depending on how you classify Humans, essentially entirely linear/aggro.

    Javier Villouta - Burn
    Pedro Gonzalez - TitanShift
    Leonardo Oliveira Graichen - Izzet Phoenix
    Henrique Heylmann - Izzet Phoenix
    Sergio Ferry - Bogles
    Andres Cifuentes - Humans
    Marlos Batista Ferreira - Tron
    Matheus Crusius - Humans
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from The Fluff »
    Noticed today. From being less than a dollar some months ago.. Scryb Ranger is now 4-5$ each. I guess this is the effect of Vannifar decks.
    It's generally what happens when random old cards are part of random fringe combos or decks. People buy into the hype then feel bad about selling them when it doesn't work out. It's another posterchild of spike price memory, right alongside Bitterblossom and Ancestral Vision.

    Mycosynth Lattice is another.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    I would like to reiterate my stance on loving Phoenix being as dominating as it is. Playing Blue Moon with 0 meaningful graveyard interactions outside of Snapcaster Mage, I have so far seen Jund being Grafdigger's Cage against me and GDS bring in Nihil Spellbomb. Both seemed to either trim down or not prioritize drawing/casting discard spells too. Phoenix's success is causing people to play badly against my deck because they think I am a different deck than I am. People are actively adding cards that do nothing while removing cards that would likely be meaningful. This is wonderful, and exactly how Twin helped facilitate other UR decks in the past.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)

    Hey! Another double Phoenix top 8 and Phoenix winner!

    Are we at the point that we recognize this is grossly unhealthy, but we simply don't care because we assume Horizons will change everything?
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Those are all entirely fair points. I think I just personally hate telling or showing people what I'm on; even at FNM. I very much enjoy mystery and misdirection; especially if a deck has multiple different win conditions and I don't show my opponent more than one of them. I guess it's going to be irrelevant outside of this event, and likely irrelevant outside of Day 2 events (just due to the logistics nightmare of doing this with thousands of players).
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    While they will definitely not be in Modern Horizons, WOTC could also come out with some random product at any time and have them in. I can't tell you how much money I have wasted on "in case I need it" and "I might want to play this" purchases. I have binders and boxes full of expensive things I don't use, but don't want to sell.... in case I need it or in case I want to play it. It's a vicious and expensive cycle.

    With that in mind, I would not buy the fetchlands unless you intend on using them. It's a lot of money to be sitting in a box waiting for you.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from motleyslayer »
    Blackcleave Cliffs and Verdant Catacombs are some of the main cards I'd like to pick up soon. I have 2 Blackcleave cliffs so far but no immediate need for them (I have Mardu pyro together but no intention of playing). I would like the Catacombs for 4c shadow every so often. Although I wouldn't mind playing Junk/Jund sometimes so both might be good

    is now a good time to get either or can anyone see them dropping anytime soon?

    That's really the thing... nobody knows. Fetchlands hold incredibly steady prices, neither climbing nor falling, outside of event-based spikes and reprint falls. If you need em, get em, but they're also a reprint away from being back down around $40.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    So are they using MCQ Promos to help out with Modern prices?? That seems like a great idea, honestly. I was sick of seeing Progenitus a year or so ago, but you give me an Arcbound Ravager for playing at bigger events? Yes please!

    Arcbound isn't a GP Promo (that's a Lightning Bolt this time around). The only way to get one of these is to get yourself into an MCQ by grinding through lower tournaments first (unless I misunderstand whatever convoluted mess pro Magic qualifiers are doing now). Historically, the (previously-named-RPTQ) promos held very high values in of themselves, and did little to nothing to affect the prices of the regular copies.

    https://www.mtggoldfish.com/index/PRM-PTP#paper

    Edit: Looks like MCQs this time around are open to anyone. Awesome! I'll be signing up for my local one and enjoy my Arcbound Ravager.
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on The State of Modern Thread (B&R 11/03/2019)
    Quote from ktkenshinx »
    Although the London Mulligan is the tournament's big change, my favorite change is actually the newly announced decklist rule:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/bbsqqu/mythic_championship_london_decklists_viewable_by/

    Due to the success of the Twitch decklist overlay, all opponents will now have access to each others' decklists before a game starts. I'm a huge fan of this in a format where knowing your opponent's strategy can only reduce variance and help interactive decks. How many times have interactive players kept seemingly strong opening 7s only to find that their answers line up poorly against an opponent's threats? That's one of the main reasons to not play interactive decks in Modern period, and this new rule is a great administrative way to address the issue.

    This is an absolutely awful idea. Some of the biggest skills in Magic, which can be used to hedge advantage over opponents, is the ability to make mulligan decisions in the dark (risk/benefit analysis), as well as identifying and sideboarding accordingly based on assumptions you make about what *could* be in your opponent's deck and sideboard.

    This change also completely eliminates a lot of decks which can sneak under the radar, masquerading as another in order to specifically deceive your opponent into playing and sideboarding incorrectly. I have talked at length about that with regards to my playing Blue Moon during Phoenix Spring. It also discourages "spicy tech" that, if that information is given away, allows the opponent to play around (thus greatly reducing the effectiveness of that tech).

    If this was information available for games 2 and 3... maybe. But Game 1, blind? I am not a fan of this whatsoever.

    If this is something specifically for PT/MC, sure. But even at the GP level, I do not like it whatsoever. Maybe for Day 2 and on, but not in the second round.
    Posted in: Modern
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