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Oct 18, 2018At this point I dont even know how Wizards is going to make money, because yeah, there is nothing hard about grinding up some Gold/Decks/Wildcards, and you can just Draft or play. A free draft every what, couple of hours over a few days of casual play? OK...Posted in: Modern
Oct 18, 2018Posted in: ModernQuote from Wraithpk »
The dailies are super easy to do just by playing the game normally. It's stuff like "Cast 30 red spells," or "Attack with 20 creatures." And you can complete them in the constructed events or even draft, you don't have to do them in the free play ladder.Quote from Colt47 »Quote from Wraithpk »That's probably true in the ladders, but you don't get any rewards for ladder wins. The constructed events reward actually winning, so if you play a fast deck you're not necessarily getting rewarded for it unless it's actually good and you're breaking above even with it.
Did MTGO also have dailies, though? I know that the MMO like grind to complete dailies is the one reason I do not think that modern would work in Arena outside of the punishment system.
Yeah, and the big one so far is 'play a game, get a new deck' once a day...not win, simply play a game.
Oct 18, 2018Explain please. Are you playing Arena? The daily system hasnt punished me at all and I've done nothing but play the GW Enchant/Pump deck for 2 days.Posted in: Modern
If that was Burn, or Storm, or ...whatever, what difference does it make?
Oct 18, 2018What you describe is already MTGO, most don't care to play the decks that go to the clock near every game. It's a huge part of why aggro is so popular, we even discussed this in this thread when UWR started getting camera time.Posted in: Modern
Every game was a grind, and a lot of people had never understood how long and grinding the games were.
Teferi turning the corner was a godsend.
The only thing really hurting Modern is there are a number of cards that would be a programming issue as far as limiting clicks go.
If you have ever played Aristocrats or Shaman online you'll know what I mean.
Edit: I may have those Fluff, I'll look.
Oct 18, 2018Posted in: ModernQuote from ktkenshinx »Many Twin players in this thread belittled Jeskai's early 2018 success on the SCG circuit and then doubted UW's success in Summer 2018. It's just another historical example of the same small cohort of Twin players that has consistently posted in this thread since 2016 (idsurge, cfp, the late hellfire, recently yourself, etc.) and wanted this card unbanned regardless of what the format looked like.
BTW, this wasnt me. I've said UWR, UW (both Mana Denial when it was needed, and Miracles after) UW and Bant Spirits, and even recently (not GP level) UR Moon, have all been 'viable'.
I said well before it was 'known' that UWR could be tuned to be successful when the meta was Humans and Hollow One.
Oct 18, 2018Posted in: ModernQuote from Colt47 »Quote from Arkmer »I'm sure Modern not being supported on Arena will change eventually regardless of what statement they put out. It's been established that Modern is the most popular format, it seems silly for them to keep it off Arena. It also seems like the easiest way to monetize the format if they put their heads to it. I say give it time, Modern Arena will happen.
I personally will never move to online magic, I'm sure many feel the same way for different reasons. I personally like sitting face to face with people, it's a big draw for me that goes beyond why the game pulls me in. Until they stop printing paper cards, I'll be a paper player. When that day comes, I will likely not play magic anymore.
I think modern is in a very difficult position in terms of online support in arena. The thing that butchered standard was not necessarily bad design, but a design that was about a player executing a game plan without concern for what the opponent was doing. Approach of the Second Sun, the negation of the ability to block with Ramunap red, indestructable creatures that were neigh unanswerable, energy having no way to be interacted with, and value creatures such as Phoenix and the scarab god were just brutal.
To a massive casual audience, is there even a way to play something in modern other than strait aggro without having a ton of cards backlogged? If not would the environment really be different from kaladesh standard?
I'm playing Arena, and its just bad decks playing against bad decks at this point. Those bombs you mention are just replaced with other bombs, that render the game over well before someone hits 0.
I'm sure Wizards could hand out new, bad, Modern decks daily just as well as they can hand out bad Standard decks daily. I'm not sure how that would be difficult to do when you have, what, 16,000+ cards possible?
Hell, just replace many of the cards with their Modern replacements its not like they are not recycling design constantly.
The issue in my eyes, is good luck putting together a 'real' Modern deck in any time reasonable. My Knightfall deck is at a glance, outside basics, and 7 cards, Rare or Mythic in the main deck. Thats a lot of Wildcards...
Oct 18, 2018Posted in: ModernQuote from ktkenshinx »
To be clear, Wizards did not ban Twin to reshuffle top decks. They banned it to increase diversity. This ban does not appear to have achieved its stated goals, so now the question is, should they reverse it?
I remain, unconvinced. I dont expect a reversal of the ban, not from the company that has people say 'Wouldnt Sword of the Meek make Lantern obnoxious?' they would simply say 'wouldnt UWR control just put the combo in?' they would be wrong, but thats what they would say.
Simply put, I do not believe the party line from Forsythe on this ban, at all.
Oct 18, 2018Posted in: ModernQuote from shadowsaotome »
I don't doubt it's fun, but I think you're onto something. It doesn't seem like Arena is meant for older and/or more competitive players. That is fine, but I'm worried about what happens to older cards and formats that Arena won't support. If it gets the success that WotC is looking for, and they keep the current party line of not putting older formats into it, then I'm afraid that will spell the end of those formats.
I dont think there is a 0% chance of interest in eternal formats falling off a bit. I'm an 'old' player, and this fit's my schedule, is just plain old kitchen table fun, and is free. You can just build up your deck/gold and then buy into a draft for free. It seems win/win right now.
Might just be my dissatisfaction with Modern speaking, and I dont play Legacy...but yeah.
Wizards has never unbanned a card to simply reshuffle top decks.
Oct 17, 2018Posted in: ModernQuote from shadowsaotome »On a completely unrelated note, I was secretly hoping for a Recoil reprint in Guilds. I've been playing MtG since 1998, and been almost exclusively a U/UB player from then til now. I dabbled in a few other things from time to time, but in recent history GDS has been my jam, while Faeries is my pet deck that I stubbornly cling to.
What I'm really afraid of is online magic, whether it be MTGO or Arena, slowly erasing paper magic. Modern has been some of the most fun, and frustration, I've had in Magic, and I'm lucky to have a robust LGS that I can play at regularly. It's very troubling to me that Wizards has made it clear that Modern won't be supported on Arena, and that Arena is the platform they want to ride into the future.
I cant speak to numbers, but Arena is just fun. I dont think it will ever cater to those who are playing hardcore paper/mtgo events though. Its framework is not 'crunch' its very loose, or seems to be intended to feel that way anyway.
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