The direction they've taken Kamigawa's aesthetic, with a conflict of modernity vs traditionalism, which is both on theme for Japan World AND delivers the original Kamigawa alongside a new (and VERY much welcome and cherished) and unique take is absolutely just brilliant. This is all such an exquisite, harmonious union of beautiful themes and aesthetics that I adore.
That image of the Soratami gazing into this divining tech helmet object was the perfect capture of everything I hoped Neo-Kamigawa might become. And here it is.
This execution of Kamigawa is genius. Time has passed since the ancient Kami War, the plane has recovered and developed, the Sisters changed the manner in which magic behaved on Kamigawa (rewriting magic's laws and rules) and we observe the manifestations of this, with a magically adept populace that has pushed the boundaries between modernity and traditionalism, reminiscent of the thematic struggles of modern Japan in anime, manga and even in life.
What a phenomenal union of the very best and most beloved concepts from the source material, delivered on such a long awaited and highly desired plane - the perfect setting for it. WOTC, my hat off to you for this masterpiece as a notoriously difficult critic to please
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Dec 17, 20212
Tiro of Meletis posted a message on Kamigawa neon dynasty art and a origin storyPosted in: The Rumor Mill -
Dec 16, 20211
sleeper agent 2.0 posted a message on [NEO] Kaito, Atsushi, Hidetsugu, and Ukiyo-e basics— Weekly MTG previewsOk, what blackmail does Hidetsugu have on someone at WotC to be the only card in the set to get that neon ink treatment and in so many different colors? Is he the big bad of the set? The treatment looks cool, it's kind of a shame if they only use it on him.Posted in: The Rumor Mill
Re: Rabiah scale - by its own definitions, an 8 does not mean that WotC would not return to the set. 8 is "unlikely but possible if the stars align" - so definitely not impossible. The stars aligned!
Atsushi looks strong, will we get another cycle of legendary dragon spirits with a death trigger that lets you choose this time? I do like treasure, and both arts - especially the alt arts.
**but also - another pushed mythic dragon for red? I've lost count at this point. You could practically make a singleton standard deck with just rare/mythic bomb dragons now.
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Dec 16, 20211
Flamebuster posted a message on Kamigawa neon dynasty art and a origin storyWowzah.Posted in: The Rumor Mill
- The artwork with the little machine and the girl looking at it. Reminds me of a Servo but maybe it's a spirit servo?
- That spirit fox thing...looks like one of the spirit animals that Vivien has around her I think? Maybe shes in this too?
That piece with the guy in the chair giving the heart symbol with their hands is awesome.
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Dec 15, 20212
Dontrike posted a message on Kamigawa neon dynasty bundle box leakPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Spaz350 »Man... after seeing the motorcycle there, I am less and less interested in this set by the minute. I loved the original Kamigawa setting and lore, seeing it turned into this just feels wrong. It honestly feels like someone at Hasbro saw the hype for CyberPunk 2077 and passed an order down to cash in on it, nothing outside of the Anthropomorphic rat feels remotely like Magic or Kamigawa.
I really wish they would have taken another crack at Kamigawa now that they got down the legendary matters and what they did wrong. That's my main issue with this steampunk neon semi-modern thing they got going here, that we went from something that felt more like Magic to.....this. They think people didn't like Kamigawa as a plane strictly because of the look and feel when in reality it was half a dozen reasons between low power cards, lack luster mechanics, and somewhat the aesthetic.
Much like they did with Mirrodin from OG to Scars is updating certain things, like the goblins, and they could have done that with OG Kamigawa with another attempt, but that's just my opinion. -
Dec 15, 2021
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Tiro of Meletis posted a message on Kamigawa neon dynasty bundle box leakNeo-Kamigawa is a complex attempt. This is really all that can be inferred at the moment. I’d reserve judgment until the set drops in its entirety.Posted in: The Rumor Mill
The world building and story of the original were popular. The focus and power level were off the mark, with the latter suffering from being wedged between game-shattering power creep sets. A kami focus was questionable. We witnessed a similar effect with BFZ and Eldrazi. They’re far too alien and not resonant, especially in high volume. Clearly Innistrad demonstrated that resonant spirits are possible. I adore Kamigawa but when I reflect on what I admire from the original, it’s cards like Minamo, Azami, Kaho, Hisoka, Azusa, Kiku and Toshiro and the dragon spirits, the Moonfolk such as Uyo aesthetically but not their mechanic, the Ninjas and Samurai, etc. essentially the Kamigawa setting itself, and the feudal Japan environment and populace. Removing the unpopular elements left a large void to be filled with a new take, which is justified after thousands of years of post-Kami War development. An urban vs. traditional theme is entirely appropriate for the relatively modernized take on Japan World that Neo-Kamigawa represents. -
Dec 14, 20211
Lectrys posted a message on Kamigawa neon dynasty Commander deck names leaksPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Magiqmaster »Motorcycles.....WotC has reaaaly lost it's soul.
What's next, sports cars?
Jeez....
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Dec 6, 2021
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Rosy Dumplings posted a message on State of the Game, So Sayeth Timmy Tacouser_938036 does a good job of explaining my skepticism.Posted in: Magic General
1. When you talk about Speculators buying hundreds of boxes in the way Rudy was in this episode, it is normally discussed in the context of people buying onto boxes to hold onto them for several years before reselling them for a profit. As those hundreds of boxes sold to these people are adding ZERO new singles into circulation while the set is new, it would stand to reason that the direct and immediate impact of those unopened boxes not existing on singles prices is (at least initially) relatively small, if not non-existent.
2. I do want to differentiate these people from short-term box flippers, however, who buy pallets of cases in bulk and who try to make their money back through single sales rather than letting products mature. These are the people who tear open collector box after collector box and who floods the market with foils, showcase frames, borderless rares, and more to keep costs down. In my eyes, These are the investors who keep standard affordable. If you look at the video, though, Rudy wasn't talking too much about these people (almost everything was about long-term investment, not flipping) and collector boxes were specifically identified as a possible exception to boxes not holding value any more so I'm not really worried about these guys going away.
3. A separate concern I've heard that may have some credence is that people buying tons and tons of boxes to invest in them may contribute to WotC's bottom line and contribute meaningfully to the good quarters that they and papa Hasbro have been reporting. If MTG is making less money, it may receive less resources, have fewer releases, and shrink accordingly. Rudy identifies in his video however that a good investment for MTG still exists, however, and that it just happens to be secret lairs now... so I'm not too concerned about this, either.
My personal conclusions: Long-term investors are better suited by buying secret lairs than standard boxes at this time but I honestly kind of doubt that will harm either singles prices or Wizards profits at this time. It is ultimately the behavior of short-term collector box crackers that determines the affordability of standard (as far as investor influence goes). Rudy's statements about investing in secret lairs did not seem specifically aimed at this group, however, so I'm not sure where all of the doom and gloom comes in.
I'm not a financial guru or a business major, though. I'm sure that there is a lot I am missing or misconstruing. Can someone clarify? -
Dec 6, 2021
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user_938036 posted a message on State of the Game, So Sayeth Timmy TacoPosted in: Magic General
Its possible I'm missing something but people not hoarding isn't going to affect the number of boxes opened but rather the number of boxes printed. Which will only have an effect years later, or not at all. Again, I may be way off. If I am please explain exactly what is feared to be going on in plain english.Quote from WarMachinePrime »It sounds like buying standard-legal sets in vast bulk (outside of collector boosters) is no longer worthwhile… in part because Amazon is offering comparable prices in the short-term… which sounds good.
If boxes aren't opened en masse, that leaves less supply for singles driving prices for singles up. Lower supply, higher demand, higher prices for players.
It sounds like investors are now focusing on secret lairs, meaning that they are focusing their efforts on Products that are print to demand rather than gouging products like Commander’s Arsenal… which sounds good.
Investors have the money. WotC will produce more and more of these products and less of the product for players. Lower supply equals higher demand equals higher prices for players.
What do you think these words here mean because they don't make any logical sense. Wizards will keep printing cards that are bought. They aren't going to rework their printers to only make products that investors want at the expense of players that just isn't realistically possible.
It sounds like the lack of value in standard legal sets comes in part from the fact that valuable cards are more likely than ever to be reprinted within the following 5-10 years… which sounds good.
Keep the value cards out of Standard (strongly playable and strongly valuable) and the sets again don't sell. No big openings to drive single prices down.
Standard has a pseudo hard cap on how expensive it can get. Also, if sets don't sell well you can expect an immediate(12-18months) shift in policy. They won't allow their largest sales driver to underperform.
This is a repeat of the first section. While a healthy collectible aspect is a key to magic's longevity is there any proof or even hint that driving away speculators or hoarders will negatively impact this longevity? I haven't seen any. If you know of a source that would be great to see.Is it expected that a lack of people like Rudy buying 1,000+ boxes will increase single prices?
Yes it will, most definitely.
This may be overly simplistic, but I am not far from the mark. Without a healthy collectability aspect, the game will shrink and die off quickly or become a mere shadow of what it currently is. I may not like all the aspects of a capitalistic business model but without it the game will crumble.
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Dec 6, 2021
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Rosy Dumplings posted a message on State of the Game, So Sayeth Timmy Taco…I am sorry if this sounds ignorant but can someone give me the short version about how the recent changes are bad for non-investing consumers?Posted in: Magic General
It sounds like buying standard-legal sets in vast bulk (outside of collector boosters) is no longer worthwhile… in part because Amazon is offering comparable prices in the short-term… which sounds good.
It sounds like investors are now focusing on secret lairs, meaning that they are focusing their efforts on Products that are print to demand rather than gouging products like Commander’s Arsenal… which sounds good.
It sounds like the lack of value in standard legal sets comes in part from the fact that valuable cards are more likely than ever to be reprinted within the following 5-10 years… which sounds good.
Did I miss the apocalyptic part at some point? Does the lack of investors cashing in investments 5-10 years later and providing delayed influxes of singles mean that prices are likely to skyrocket (in spite of frequent reprints)? Is it expected that a lack of people like Rudy buying 1,000+ boxes will increase single prices?
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Nov 16, 2021
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Mana Goat posted a message on Crimson vow Cinematic trailerPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from ilovesaprolings »Quote from Morphling »
Why do we need stupid movies or shows? Try focusing 1/10 this skill (and budget) into hiring playtesters. Skip the movies. Make better formats.
We live in the binge watching era.Stupid movies or shows may bring you more money than balanced formats.
It really depends on where the money is expected to come from. In our case the majority of profit would come from us the people who are invested in the game and those that could be potential investors. The reasoning being is that it would strengthen the brand loyalty and bring in fresh blood that would buy more cards.
Now if the movie does well there is a lot to be gained, a good movie can stand the test of time and would act as an effect means to generate interest in the actual game for years to come. But if done poorly it would fail to produce interest in those not already playing and those who do already play would be upset with the mishandling of the entire affair when all the wasted time and resources could have been spent on improving the health of the game.
Right now WOTC seems to want to use rookie or comic book writers for their stories, and it shows. And I am with ilovesaprolings in that if they want to have this level of story telling then fine just focus on making sure that MTG is a fun game to play. - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
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(I googled nadir)
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I like the current pace of banning, no maniac random bannings, but swift heavy bannings when justified... i like this pruning approach.
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I think the problem is multi layered... the only way they solve the "reprint problem" is to print it to the ground or very often, so that inventories become very large and prices per card is some arbitrary low number say 2 dollars (and thats for the playable ones, the rest will be worthless in monetary terms)
The toxic groups in the reprint problem are the speculators AND the people who want 2 dollar or lower cards. Both groups are problems. Its not like the cards were not low in price at some point in time. The problem is people do not cherish their cards and only see the cards from a financial perspective. A siege rhino card is the same siege rhino card, whether it was 1$ a week ago or a buyitnow price of 4$ today. If one did not sell off because of rotation or that the cards has been overrun in terms of playability... then pioneer format or no, there is no issue. As long as players (should we even call them that) see cards from a financial point, we will have this problem unless they print it to the ground
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That said... the two problem groups are not going to go away, indeed all of us are probably part of the problem since we create the demand. My advice is to get the cards you need if you have a pet deck/cards that you sold off previously if the price is still low. If the price has jumped, then just wait it out, thing is these newer sets inventories are very large... Siege Rhino was actually pretty low in price for its popularity due to the large print run. The people buying out? their money is locked in cardboard. In the meantime I will go out and enjoy the sunshine or whatever weather it is for you out there
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1. You play your land, lynx ability goes on the stack
2. You pass priority, opponent can respond to the lynx ability,
Plays lava dart, lava dart goes on stack
3. Lava dart resolves. Zaps lynx. Lynx dies
4. Lynx ability resolves, but lynx is gone. Fizzles.
I think it works that way
Informal warning issued for unsure answer. Please check your private messages. -MadMage
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https://m.twitch.tv/channelfireball/profile
There should be an archive here
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I think this is the direct link
https://m.twitch.tv/videos/449376980
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/449480106
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The game has evolved, we can accept it or ban everything to oblivion, back to battle cruiser standard levels.
I miss the days when the meta would stew for months , not just days before everyone start talking about bans.
Magic is not just the gathering of sideboards... sometimes sideboards are all it takes. At other times the upheaval is enough that
Decks must change to address the new meta.
Sideboards are a privilege to allow 60 cards to stay relatively the same.
It does not mean decks do not die and become obsolete.
That has been true since the dawn of magic as a game.
That is all.
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How does it not fit?
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