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  • posted a message on MOCS Championship Spoilers Complete
    Quote from Colt47 »
    Well so far this set looks like garbage for about 200 dollars a box. Laughing

    Joke aside, I'm hoping they got something good to actually show in the next few days. This is not giving me a good impression considering they are charging a lot more for this.


    Well its still early but yes for its supposed cost... plus the fact that it is not standard legal... its gotta have more for its supposed "modern" power level


    But given that these days wotc does not show you the best card first (i think) i guess there are better stuff coming?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from motleyslayer »
    I was hoping to get a set of verdant catacombs soon but they're $100 Canadian on face to face now. Can anyone see that changing or will I just have to bite the bullet and get them soon?


    If you plan to play in a tournament, then i think you should buy them, but if it is casual play or just deck building then you might want to wait since its just a matter of time before reprint
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Leak Gideon (story spoiler)
    I am sad to see Gideon go, but at least he got a nice goodbye card.. kinda
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Quote from The Fluff »
    Dreadhorde Arcanist looks really strong in the right deck. The 8$ pre-order price is strong as well.

    Is 8$ just a hype price.. wait for it to get lower or pre-order now?


    I would wait... but thats just me... it is a rare afterall ...but if you play competitively then sure get it asap.. actually i think its best to wait... preorder hype is horrible :/
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on [WAR} Official War of the Spark Trailer!
    Quote from arcane7828 »
    I enjoyed the linkin park cover for the video and thought it fit quite nicely with liliana's story arc, well done wotc!!


    How does it fit with her Story Arc?


    How does it not fit?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [WAR} Official War of the Spark Trailer!
    I enjoyed the linkin park cover for the video and thought it fit quite nicely with liliana's story arc, well done wotc!!
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [WAR} Official War of the Spark Trailer!
    Loved the video and music, i genuinely hope a animation or movie would be made... but not rushed
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Bought LP Beta, got a signed one.
    I love signed cards too... so i would keep the card happily Grin
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on B&R Update: Ironworks Banned, Hada Freeblade, Spatial Controtion, Circle of Flame banned in Pauper.
    Quote from An"she »
    Quote from idSurge »
    Comical people still going on as if it was 'complexity' that actually got this deck banned.


    Whats so hard to understand of WotC own words ?

    We're sensitive to community feedback that the combination of polarized matchups, complex interactions, and long turns can lead to unenjoyable gameplay and viewing experiences.


    Powerlevel alone would not have banned the card, as there are plenty of problematic cards to watch for.

    The factor that the people in the streaming chat scream out loud if KCI is shown that they cant understand anything how the deck works is much more relevant, and if you deny that, well ...

    The real solution to fight the rules complexity would be to actually CHANGE the rules in a proper manner (or give "mana-abilities" on cards a instant speed restriction to get it over with, fixing kwerky Chromatic Sphere problems right away).

    But they didnt do that, so the rules complexity problem still exists, there just isnt a deck that takes advantage of it in tier 1 anymore.

    Its just a matter of time till the next "eggs" style deck runs around the corner and it just happens again and again , as they simply didnt fix the problem in the first place.

    (You could even argue a tournament rule could be established that states that a turn is not allowed to take longer than X Minutes, enforced just like slow-play and stalling by a judge, which would solve the issue of 10+ Minute turns by itself, as doing that in a tournament would ramp you with warnings, game-loses and match-loses, unless you are really quick and know your deck, in which case there is no problem at all , and THAT would be a proper solution that solves all the future problems of super long turns equally well)

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    But oh well, quick and dirty, ban the card, forget it ever existed and just pretend everything is fine now, Lala-Land supreme.
    Yea it is really silly that they didn't actually fix the rules behind it, "Treating the symptom, not the cause", and all that jazz. People cheering at its ban are the most funny in my opinion, eggs just needs a replacement for KCI and its online again for the same old nonsense. If they choose not to print a new card that could be abused by eggs, they are allowing the current rules set to twist their arm with future card design and testing. If they accidentally let one through, they will need to ban it in modern again.


    Agreed.

    I do like the suggestion on a rule to limit by time, that would not kill the deck, but force the pilot to be proficient or lose, which seems fairer to me. (And would still allow the deck to exist but remove the durdly players ... which may still effectively "kill" the deck or at least the players left do not annoy the other players... and would solve other decks taking too long as well - many ppl complain about combo.. but seriously a midrange or control or gasps those token stalemates are as esperating to watch :()
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on [[Official]] Modern Prices Discussion
    Most special edition stuff that are not functional, will fall from their peak after awhile even if limited run. If you have "special" + "functional" you have a winner. Mass reprints in terms of other special versions of the same card e.g. another run of expeditions-like run but with different art will diminish the need to get the expedition for example. (Unless you are really into eldrazi, else its just a pretty pattern)
    Posted in: Modern
  • posted a message on Thoughts on the Magic/Life Balance
    It is definitely healthy to take a step back.

    I too feel i spend too much time and energy on mtg :/

    I think a schedule is great , plus go do stuff with friends who do not play mtg, so that you really do something absolutely unrelated to mtg

    I should do the same Smile
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on A family member damaged my cards- Is there any way to restore them?
    Quote from Xinaar »
    For a long time, I've been wanting to buy in to modern so I can play with a few friends. Now, I'm not wealthy, I'm in a position right now where I can't really afford magic, and I sold a lot of my cards, but finally I decided I needed an outlet besides my cube and buckled down to play Storm, since I used to dabble with it on MODO before Gitaxian Probe was banned and I sold all my cards. I went to my gamestore and picked up all the spare cards I needed totaling about $230 Canadian, and I got home at 6:50. My mom came around at about 8:00 and we talked for a bit. I resolved to take a nap while my new singles were on m computer desk and she said she'd play some games while I rested. I woke up at 10:30 but it was 11:20 before I noticed anything was wrong. It was incredibly humid in my old apartment, which was weird because it was never like that, lo and behold, my radiators are on and spitting humid air into my small domicile. My mother had turned them on because she was cold, which wasn't that odd, but then I didn't think anything of it. about 30 minutes ago, after my mom left to go home, I saw the cards on my desk. She had riffled through them, which wasn't unusual nor do I harbor any bad feelings. She used to play Magic, and she just wanted to see the cards after all. I started to pick them up... and they flexed. They made that telltale 'krik' sound and I knew I was screwed. I double sleeved them immediately but the damage was already done. Now... is there any way to fix this, card gurus? Is there any way I can make my new deck playable? I shuffled it a few times, but some of the cards are completely rigid and bent backwards, like draft chaff that's been on an Alaskan windowsill for days. No visible damage, but I don't even think they're casual playable. Is there any way to fix these cards and make them how they were? Or, at least something that I can play in a GP? I'll be honest, if they're unplayable, I'm probably just going to quit magic- sans cubing. I just don't have the money and dropping 1/3rd of my monthly pay just to have it go up in flames is more than a little disheartening. I'm a pretty stoic guy, but I'm almost in tears. I was so looking forward to playing 60-card magic with my friends just like back in middle school. I hope you can help, I'll be grateful forever.


    If there is no crease or bent , they are still good, you just need to get thr curl out. What i normally do is i will curl it the other way and hold it there for awhile , say a minute (becareful not to bent it), it might be good if it is humid (but not wet). It should go back to relatively straight (but this is probably temporal - since the card naturally curls in a vertain direction) next you but it inbetween somethung dry and absorbent maybe a book, make sure it is flat, if you must do it to several cards a time make sure they are aligned (but its really safer to do this individually) put thr card in the book or inbetween books then put as much weight as you can ontop of the book (maybe more books). The cards should flatten out after a few days or a week. After that double sleeve it and trybto keep it flat with no exposure to air. New sleeves tend to trap air, so be sure yo squeeze them and keep them tight in a container to maintain no to minimal air exposure.

    Thats how i normally do it. But a crease is kinda a goner. But non-structural damage or non-defacement level damage is usually salvagable. Good luck Smile
    Posted in: Magic General
  • posted a message on Full Gallery is up
    [quote]

    And noone has still answered my question. Do you want to see the hobby become more or less expensive. The silence speaks volumes and reeks of elitism.

    Hmm i have no opinion on this really, i guess i don't care either way? If pressed to make a decision, i guess cheaper eurekas would make me happy. So ya cheaper cards but other than that no, i dun care. Sold some pieces of power, still got most of em and most vintage decks are buildable. But i am alright with chronicles level printing :p hell i think it would likely happen without chronicles printing (price collapse). Magic is really running on a demographic surge, if it cannotjustify itself as a game, price notwithstanding, it will collapse. But there will always be a core group still playing or collecting (yes i am still harping on legacy, i am quite fascinated by its resilience). But as it is there is too much fat and is due for a collapse. I mean i hope i dun sound like all doom amd gloom, but this is a great time to cash out.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Full Gallery is up
    Quote from Colt47 »
    Quote from Dontrike »
    Quote from cfusionpm »

    Either way, at the end of the day, hobbies cost money; usually a lot. If you're not comfortable with spending money, either stick to budget decks, proxy your cards and play casually, or find a new hobby. I am fully comfortable paying the price I am for the UMA boxes I'm getting because the likely value contained within is at least the price of the box. But I'm also in a spot financially where it's not as big of a deal to spend that much on my hobby. And it turns out many thousands of other buyers also agree.

    Ah yes the "great" argument of "you're poor and therefore don't get to have a hobby" while also throwing in some "I'm okay with buying this expensive product because I have money". So glad you threw in that non argument smugness in there.


    The one big issue with the product line is that Wizards of the Coasts strategy has been split. Most other TCGs on the market are a game first and a collectible second, with expensive cards being reprinted regularly to keep prices in check and to make sure both casual and hardcore players have access to the same cardboard.

    Magic the Gathering is treated far, far differently, and it took a while for me to realize the truth behind all of this price scalping going on. Basically, to muscle out other card games and push the presence of the game on the market the company inflated the prices of modern cards intentionally via very controlled reprint practices. The only reason this works is because the game has a very dedicated core of players and has a strong online media presence in comparison to the competition. Because the cards are so blasted expensive, it takes forever for players to get the cards they need, so in the mean time they end up following the basic rule of grocery stores: get someone into your store and if they can't afford the fancy thing that drew them there, they will still likely buy 3-5 cheaper things they probably didn't intend to via impulse.

    Yes, it's basically hardcore usage of human psychology to earn money, and yes it's basically as bad as what casinos do with gambling, because unlike groceries that can usually find at least some use even if they aren't the thing one is looking for, Wizards built the entire game around disposable cards and only a few playable ones. A buyer will likely impulse buy a dozen or more things they will only get limited, if any, use out of, than have those things get relegated to bulk storage or tossed in the trash. None of the impulse buying aids in the goal of buying that mox opal, and the company knows this. Hence they keep people doing this constantly while chasing after the super expensive modern playable cards.

    The only reason they don't do this in standard is because the same trick doesn't work on less dedicated players. Those players swoop in, draft and play standard, then just constantly trade out on the market. This process then feeds into the system set up with the impulse buying that long term dedicated players are roped into. To put it bluntly, it is a never ending cycle of pain for the dedicated player.

    Ultimately, the issue of finance is one of the most highly quoted reasons for people leaving magic. The focus on market watches over gameplay and the huge amount of time and money it takes to build a deck outside of one shot, short lived wonders; it's a miracle most people still play the game at all, really.


    I actually have a rather different view.. well at least of the game... well mostly just the last line... else i am mostly in agreement with the bait tactics.

    It is very strange, but i think it is the high value that keeps people in the game. Take away the value, the system surviving on it falls (lgs, scg, artists, ermm cosplay?) and easy access to other humans playing falls and the player base dwindles.

    The players will likely all leave. Well most of them, but there will always be a core group left.legacy proved this. There was a time when most cards are worthless and lotus was a couple of hundreds. The price spike overall is a recent thing, it is an anomaly. It can die. Not that it will, but it can.and playerz will likely leave in droves. But the game will still live, regardless of the company that spawned it or whether it has equity. Which is why i am oki with them printing equity to the ground, or not. I know the game will always be around. :p
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Full Gallery is up
    Quote from The Fluff »


    Back on topic. Terese Nielsen's awesome UMA art on Pattern of Rebirth made me want it to be Modern legal. PoR on an eldrazi token, sac token and boom! Ulamog. Ceaseless Hunger comes to party. Well, but a Standard reprint is probably impossible.. as the power level of PoR is quite high.


    Hehe they could reprint it and ban it if too strong, they have banned stranger cards :p
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
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