3. It seems more like a real format if there is no price limit for the deck and just a list of legal and illegal cards.
True, but do you have that list for paper Legacy?
I'm working on the paper legality checker but it's gonna take some time.
I would like to see some opinions about which should be the price limits when looking at the trend price.
I think it should be close to the price you pay for each card when you buy a booster pack. If the booster costs $4, each card would be $0.26 but there are different rarities so it gets more complicated. Dividing the price of the booster by three rarities it's $1.33. 133/10 = $0.13 per common, 133/3 = $0.44 per uncommon, $1.33 per rare. But I left out the mythic.
I'm not an expert in this format. For better answers ask here.
1. The format was known as C3POS, Crap Card Constructed or Budget constructed. One of the reasons they begun to call the format 'Heirloom' (other than trying to find a name catchy and not offensive) was that you often find yourself playing with cards that just give you that nice warm nostalgia.
2. MKM gives an easy way to see the lowest price and the trend price for each card.
3. It seems more like a real format if there is no price limit for the deck and just a list of legal and illegal cards.
4. The thing is not using cards that are overpriced. The tighter the rarity price limit to the average price for that rarity, more cards that are very commonly played get banned and then you get to play with a lot more cards that are good and now playable. Thus seeing more variety.
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
I need help with this deck I just created. I don't know how many creatures it should have and which should it be. I also don't know what cards to put in the sideboard.
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
I think the deck would be better like this. What do you think?
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
I'm working on the paper legality checker but it's gonna take some time.
I would like to see some opinions about which should be the price limits when looking at the trend price.
I think it should be close to the price you pay for each card when you buy a booster pack. If the booster costs $4, each card would be $0.26 but there are different rarities so it gets more complicated. Dividing the price of the booster by three rarities it's $1.33. 133/10 = $0.13 per common, 133/3 = $0.44 per uncommon, $1.33 per rare. But I left out the mythic.
1. The format was known as C3POS, Crap Card Constructed or Budget constructed. One of the reasons they begun to call the format 'Heirloom' (other than trying to find a name catchy and not offensive) was that you often find yourself playing with cards that just give you that nice warm nostalgia.
2. MKM gives an easy way to see the lowest price and the trend price for each card.
3. It seems more like a real format if there is no price limit for the deck and just a list of legal and illegal cards.
4. The thing is not using cards that are overpriced. The tighter the rarity price limit to the average price for that rarity, more cards that are very commonly played get banned and then you get to play with a lot more cards that are good and now playable. Thus seeing more variety.
UW UW Control
3x Condemn
2x Dismiss
3x Dissipate
2x Into the Roil
4x Mana Leak
2x Spell Pierce
Sorcery (7)
3x Compulsive Research
4x Winds of Rath
Land (25)
4x Coastal Tower
7x Island
7x Plains
4x Sejiri Refuge
3x Terramorphic Expanse
2x Luminarch Ascension
1x Sacred Mesa
2x Story Circle
1x Teferi's Moat
Creature (6)
2x Sphinx of Jwar Isle
4x Wall of Omens
3x Blue Elemental Blast
3x Celestial Purge
2x Light of Day
2x Relic of Progenitus
1x Story Circle
1x Teferi's Moat
3x Witchbane Orb
I really like the Mystical Teachings + Blue Sun's Zenith or White Sun's Zenith synergy.
WUB Esper Control
1 Bloodgift Demon
2 Sphinx of Jwar Isle
4 Wall of Omens
Land
4 Arcane Sanctum
4 Evolving Wilds
3 Island
4 Jwar Isle Refuge
4 Plains
4 Sejiri Refuge
4 Swamp
Enchantment
1 Teferi's Moat
Sorcery
2 Infest
1 Blue Sun's Zenith
1 Consume the Meek
1 Disfigure
3 Dissipate
1 Doom Blade
4 Esper Charm
4 Mana Leak
4 Mystical Teachings
1 Rest for the Weary
1 Smother
1 Tribute to Hunger
1 White Sun's Zenith
1 Bloodgift Demon
2 Celestial Purge
1 Consume the Meek
2 Cranial Extraction
2 Infest
2 Negate
2 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Purify the Grave
1 Teferi's Moat
1 Witchbane Orb
About the Heirloom Format
Price limit in 2010: $0.05, $0.1, $0.2, $1
Price limit in 2012: $0.1, $0.2, $0.5, $1
Price limit in 2014: $0.13, $0.25, $0.5, $1.5
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
Original Deck
3x Ordeal of Heliod
2x Prison Term
3x Spirit Link
3x Sunbond
3x Temporal Isolation
Land (21)
7x Island
10x Plains
4x Tranquil Cove
3x Azorius Herald
4x Blessed Spirits
4x Drogskol Captain
4x Rattlechains
4x Tallowisp
Instant (6)
4x Blessed Breath
2x Dawn Charm
3x Echoing Truth
3x Hallow
3x Hindering Light
3x Rebuff the Wicked
3x Terashi's Grasp
About the Heirloom Format
Price limit in 2010: $0.05, $0.1, $0.2, $1
Price limit in 2012: $0.1, $0.2, $0.5, $1
Price limit in 2014: $0.13, $0.25, $0.5, $1.5
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
Original Deck
4x Avatar of the Resolute
4x Bond Beetle
4x Bramblewood Paragon
2x Centaur Battlemaster
4x Setessan Oathsworn
2x Staunch-Hearted Warrior
2x Ulvenwald Tracker
4x Pit Fight
4x Prey's Vengeance
2x Solidarity of Heroes
Sorcery (8)
4x Epic Confrontation
4x Prey Upon
Land (20)
20x Forest
4x Become Immense
4x Fruit of the First Tree
4x Mutagenic Growth
3x Predator's Rapport
About the Heirloom Format
Price limit in 2010: $0.05, $0.1, $0.2, $1
Price limit in 2012: $0.1, $0.2, $0.5, $1
Price limit in 2014: $0.13, $0.25, $0.5, $1.5
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
Original Deck
3x Fog
3x Lull
3x Moment's Peace
4x Oxidize
3x Elvish Mystic
3x Llanowar Elves
4x Myr Landshaper
4x Viridian Corrupter
4x Liquimetal Coating
3x Trepanation Blade
Sorcery (4)
4x Splinter
Land (22)
22x Forest
About the Heirloom Format
Price limit in 2010: $0.05, $0.1, $0.2, $1
Price limit in 2012: $0.1, $0.2, $0.5, $1
Price limit in 2014: $0.13, $0.25, $0.5, $1.5
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
Original Deck
4x Boomerang
4x Consign to Dream
4x Regress
4x Resounding Wave
4x Surging AEther
4x Wipe Away
1x AEtherling
4x Jace's Archivist
Sorcery (4)
4x Eye of Nowhere
Enchantment (2)
2x Dictate of Kruphix
Artifact (1)
1x Elixir of Immortality
Land (24)
24x Island
2x AEtherize
1x Ebony Owl Netsuke
4x Fog Bank
4x Mana Leak
4x Monastery Siege
About the Heirloom Format
Price limit in 2010: $0.05, $0.1, $0.2, $1
Price limit in 2012: $0.1, $0.2, $0.5, $1
Price limit in 2014: $0.13, $0.25, $0.5, $1.5
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
Original Deck
4x Darksteel Axe
4x Darksteel Relic
3x Inquisitor's Flail
3x Prowler's Helm
3x Worldslayer
3x Brass Squire
4x Phylactery Lich
4x Vampire Nighthawk
4x Vault Skirge
4x Darksteel Citadel
18x Swamp
Instant (3)
3x Undying Evil
Enchantment (3)
3x Gruesome Deformity
About the Heirloom Format
Price limit in 2010: $0.05, $0.1, $0.2, $1
Price limit in 2012: $0.1, $0.2, $0.5, $1
Price limit in 2014: $0.13, $0.25, $0.5, $1.5
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
I need help with this deck I just created. I don't know how many creatures it should have and which should it be. I also don't know what cards to put in the sideboard.
8x Island
6x Plains
4x Sejiri Refuge
4x Tranquil Cove
4x Urza's Factory
Artifact (1)
1x Elixir of Immortality
Instant (16)
4x Devouring Light
4x Dismiss
4x Dissolve
4x Mana Leak
3x Divination
4x End Hostilities
4x Treasure Cruise
Enchantment (4)
4x Oblivion Ring
Creature (2)
2x Prognostic Sphinx
3x Condemn
4x Karma
4x Sanctimony
4x Story Circle
About the Heirloom Format
Price limit in 2010: $0.05, $0.1, $0.2, $1
Price limit in 2012: $0.1, $0.2, $0.5, $1
Price limit in 2014: $0.13, $0.25, $0.5, $1.5
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
Original deck
What would you substitute Spirit Mantle with?
3x Akroan Skyguard
4x Eidolon of Countless Battles
4x Graceblade Artisan
4x Hopeful Eidolon
3x Phalanx Leader
4x Battle Mastery
4x Ethereal Armor
4x Glaring Aegis
4x Emerge Unscathed
4x Gods Willing
Land (22)
22x Plains
About the Heirloom Format
Price limit in 2010: $0.05, $0.1, $0.2, $1
Price limit in 2012: $0.1, $0.2, $0.5, $1
Price limit in 2014: $0.13, $0.25, $0.5, $1.5
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
I think the deck would be better like this. What do you think?
4x Dauthi Horror
4x Dauthi Slayer
4x Hypnotic Specter
4x Tormented Soul
4x Bonesplitter
4x Darksteel Axe
3x Lashwrithe
22x Swamp
Instant (8)
4x Undying Evil
4x Victim of Night
3x Sign in Blood
About the Heirloom Format
Price limit in 2010: $0.05, $0.1, $0.2, $1
Price limit in 2012: $0.1, $0.2, $0.5, $1
Price limit in 2014: $0.13, $0.25, $0.5, $1.5
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
I would like some help with this elf deck.
4 Bramblewood Paragon
4 Heedless One
4 Lead the Stampede
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Reclamation Sage
4 Sylvan Messenger
4 Voice of the Woods
4 Wolf-Skull Shaman
4 Wren's Run Packmaster
4 Wren's Run Vanquisher
3 Back to Nature
1 Gaea's Blessing
1 Great Sable Stag
4 Jagged-Scar Archers
1 Krosan Grip
4 Nullmage Shepherd
1 Tormod's Crypt
About the Heirloom Format
Price limit in 2010: $0.05, $0.1, $0.2, $1
Price limit in 2012: $0.1, $0.2, $0.5, $1
Price limit in 2014: $0.13, $0.25, $0.5, $1.5
The prices of the Heirloom decks in paper aren't budget at all. Using the original price limits of 0.05, 0.1, 0.2, 1 in MKM gives an average deck price of $30. It's more accurate to use higher limits and see the price trend instead of the lowest price so there's less fluctuation in price. That's why the limits are 0.2, 0.5, 1, 2 looking at the price trend.
AGGRO (1)
4x Dauthi Horror
4x Dauthi Slayer
4x Hypnotic Specter
4x Tormented Soul
4x Bonesplitter
4x Darksteel Axe
3x Lashwrithe
22x Swamp
Instant (8)
4x Undying Evil
4x Victim of Night
3x Sign in Blood
COMBO (1)
3x Ordeal of Heliod
2x Prison Term
3x Spirit Link
3x Sunbond
3x Temporal Isolation
Land (21)
7x Island
10x Plains
4x Tranquil Cove
3x Azorius Herald
4x Blessed Spirits
4x Drogskol Captain
4x Rattlechains
4x Tallowisp
Instant (6)
4x Blessed Breath
2x Dawn Charm
3x Echoing Truth
3x Hallow
3x Hindering Light
3x Rebuff the Wicked
3x Terashi's Grasp
CONTROL (3)
3x Fog
3x Lull
3x Moment's Peace
4x Oxidize
3x Elvish Mystic
3x Llanowar Elves
4x Myr Landshaper
4x Viridian Corrupter
4x Liquimetal Coating
3x Trepanation Blade
Sorcery (4)
4x Splinter
Land (22)
22x Forest
4x Boomerang
4x Consign to Dream
4x Regress
4x Resounding Wave
4x Surging AEther
4x Wipe Away
1x AEtherling
4x Jace's Archivist
Sorcery (4)
4x Eye of Nowhere
Enchantment (2)
2x Dictate of Kruphix
Artifact (1)
1x Elixir of Immortality
Land (24)
24x Island
2x AEtherize
1x Ebony Owl Netsuke
4x Fog Bank
4x Mana Leak
4x Monastery Siege
8x Island
6x Plains
4x Sejiri Refuge
4x Tranquil Cove
4x Urza's Factory
Artifact (1)
1x Elixir of Immortality
Instant (16)
4x Devouring Light
4x Dismiss
4x Dissolve
4x Mana Leak
3x Divination
4x End Hostilities
4x Treasure Cruise
Enchantment (4)
4x Oblivion Ring
Creature (2)
2x Prognostic Sphinx
3x Condemn
4x Karma
4x Sanctimony
4x Story Circle
MIDRANGE (4)
4x Avatar of the Resolute
4x Bond Beetle
4x Bramblewood Paragon
2x Centaur Battlemaster
4x Setessan Oathsworn
2x Staunch-Hearted Warrior
2x Ulvenwald Tracker
4x Pit Fight
4x Prey's Vengeance
2x Solidarity of Heroes
Sorcery (8)
4x Epic Confrontation
4x Prey Upon
Land (20)
20x Forest
4x Become Immense
4x Fruit of the First Tree
4x Mutagenic Growth
3x Predator's Rapport
4x Darksteel Axe
4x Darksteel Relic
3x Inquisitor's Flail
3x Prowler's Helm
3x Worldslayer
3x Brass Squire
4x Phylactery Lich
4x Vampire Nighthawk
4x Vault Skirge
4x Darksteel Citadel
18x Swamp
Instant (3)
3x Undying Evil
Enchantment (3)
3x Gruesome Deformity
3x Akroan Skyguard
4x Eidolon of Countless Battles
4x Graceblade Artisan
4x Hopeful Eidolon
3x Phalanx Leader
4x Battle Mastery
4x Ethereal Armor
4x Glaring Aegis
4x Emerge Unscathed
4x Gods Willing
Land (22)
22x Plains
4 Bramblewood Paragon
4 Heedless One
4 Lead the Stampede
4 Llanowar Elves
4 Reclamation Sage
4 Sylvan Messenger
4 Voice of the Woods
4 Wolf-Skull Shaman
4 Wren's Run Packmaster
4 Wren's Run Vanquisher
3 Back to Nature
1 Gaea's Blessing
1 Great Sable Stag
4 Jagged-Scar Archers
1 Krosan Grip
4 Nullmage Shepherd
1 Tormod's Crypt
RAMP (1)
24 Forest
Mana Ramp 16
4 Axebane Guardian
4 Overgrown Battlement
4 Vine Trellis
4 Wall of Roots
4 Garruk's Horde
4 Hydra Broodmaster
4 Krosan Tusker
4 Soul of the Harvest
4 Silvos, Rogue Elemental
4 Acidic Slime
3 Howl of the Night Pack
4 Terastodon
4 Tornado Elemental
UNCLASSIFIED (0)