MTG Salvation

What exactly would a Rome-only plane look like? What factions and elements would differentiate it from Ravnica, Theros, or even that Battlebond plane? What is the gimmick? I can imagine a lot of crossover of thematic elements with existing planes but what would be completely unique and the main draw?

A bunch of arbitrary and unnecessary changes.

Are we expecting this to be a $5 common in a few years?

And One With Nothing discards an entire hand for one mana

Why don't we all just keep out hot takes about race to ourselves from now on? It sucks that every spoiler thread that has a woman or a POC in the art depicted at all favorably gets derailed by bigots. Can we just talk about the cards and not how bad you guys think representation is?

Seeing a minority isn't an invitation to give your opinion on diversity.

On topic: I think the card isn't amazing but may have a niche in Pridemate decks in standard. I don't see it seeing play in EDH much, but could warrant an inclusion in more casual lifegain decks like an unconventional Oloro or maybe a go-wide lifegain strategy built out of Trostani. I didn't design the set, so maybe this card's lifegain was sorely needed for balance, but I would have liked to see more of a buff effect, like "Whenever a creature you control deals combat damage to an opponent, put a +1/+1 counter on it." A slow, but more playable effect for standard and typical white weenie decks.

It’s also pretty disheartening to associate some of those comments with someone being a racist. If anything, that’s more annoying than the hot takes. Oh, you don’t see how this can be possible because source material? Racist. Don’t understand the role of the character? Racist. I love it. All of you guys high-fiving and doing victory laps for calling somebody racist, on the internet. Good for you.

You're conflating the actual racist comments with those asking for clarification of contextualization. You don't need to white knight for the former in order to be accepting of the latter.

Then there are those using the “‘cuz fantasy” to explain it away. Well, to me, fantasy is used to sever ties with reality. Injecting realism via PC “checkboxes” crushes that in totality. I’m not saying they shouldn’t do this, but as mentioned above, you end up creating “token” characters just to please the masses. That’s not creativity, that’s being lazy.

And there we go. This isn't about people being accused of racism inappropriately or being upset about incivility. This is you having a problem with seeing POC represented in Magic artwork and trying to portray them as political plants in order to further your own political narrative.

to me, fantasy is used to sever ties with reality.

Why is the fantasy that you prefer one that doesn't have "realism" like POC, instead of one that doesn't have "realism" like racial disparity in class and representation? Both are fantastical depictions and you obviously prefer one over the other. Why do you think that is?

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It boggles my mind that people are so stuck on this. Her skin color literally doesn’t matter. They could have made her green with purple spots and it wouldn’t have made a difference. Her skin color is not relevant to her character or story arc. For the love of god people just let it go.

Yup. And it's pretty disheartening to come to this site which for years has been a great forum to discuss Magic spoilers and to be presented with some bigot's unwanted hot takes about how diversity is bad and its ruining muh Magic the Gathering. There are countless places where you can go and be racist on the internet but this isn't one of them.

Typically marrying a king is a surefire way to become a queen..

Reminds me of a Rancor that turns into something much much worse

Why is this rare?

WotC sure gave us a lot of puns this set. TIHI

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Why am I buying physical cards if hundreds, if not thousands are going to be inaccurate? Every burn spell, tons of creatures.

If WotC wants to invalidate thousands of cards they sold to us because "lol flavor" then they should be buying back old copies and replacing them with newly printed, accurate versions.

This is an incredibly dumb line of thinking, we're so deeply entwined with technology at this point that familiarizing ourselves with Oracle text isn't that hard

The cards aren't invalidated just because the printed wording isn't up to date, and Wizards isn't going to waste their time or money printing "updated" versions with each errata just because a very tiny minority of people find it mildly inconvenient

I'd rather they make periodic improvements to the game and retrofit preexisting cards into those changes than let it stagnate in those areas, and I would want them to put their resources into anything other than pointless reprints of cards with updated Oracle text

I don't think we should have to use a smartphone to look up creature types when we play EDH. Errata-ing hundreds of cards at a time shouldn't be done lightly just because you think this wizard looks more like a warlock than a wizard. What's even the difference? In Magic there has been none. This doesn't seem like a "periodic improvement." It seems like an arbitrary distinction made for flavor purposes that causes a lot of hassle for people playing with or against tribal decks in EDH.

And obviously WotC won't replace the cards they invalidated but I think if they were held to that standard they wouldn't be making decisions like this willy-nilly because Maro or some flavor director decided they want some new cards to be cool and different.

Some cards need oracle text to function. However, these arbitrary changes didn't need to happen. Magic is already a very memory-intensive game and we shouldn't have to memorize thousands of changes repeatedly because "lol flavor"

Why am I buying physical cards if hundreds, if not thousands are going to be inaccurate? Every burn spell, tons of creatures.

If WotC wants to invalidate thousands of cards they sold to us because "lol flavor" then they should be buying back old copies and replacing them with newly printed, accurate versions.

Why doesn't this hit planeswalkers

I like these lands. It seems like they should be in pretty much every EDH deck that shares the color.