My thoughts are to go Jodah if you insist on add all the angels, but Lyra Dawnbringer is my sweet Angel commander. She is pure fun, with an actual benefit to the tribe.
I think if you want to stay away from 5c "play out the same way" decks you're going to need to have most of your strategy be separate from the commander. Najeela might be boring on that account as her main design space is to cast her and attack as many times as possible with her
That's one thing I do like about Ramos very much as he's more of a ramp commander than a tutor/draw commander.
Well, I have a Ramos. I'm just wondering about viable, variable themes for a 5-color deck. Enchantress would probably be perfect--except that he loves my 4-color Enchantress as it is, headed up by Kynaios and Tiro. (I cannot recommend those guys highly enough as Enchantress commanders. They give a touch of draw to get the engine going until you can set up your Enchantresses, and they allow for use of those excess lands you draw. In my build, there is no group hug aside from K&T themselves, and yet, everyone loves that little hug so much that the Kings are left to their own devices. No one snipes them. Ever.)
So ... what does that leave? Are there some good 5-color tribes? (Besides slivers, which he hates, and Dragons, which we have Kaalia.) I tried God-tribal once, but it ended up being too slow and clunky, with too many of the gods not actually being creatures often enough.
Is there a sort of spell-tribal possibility? I'm reaching here, I know.
I've heard of 5-color Sunforger decks. Do those ever work?
Yes, well, I like Najeela because of the warrior tribal. But ... I did disassemble my Najeela after a few days, too. It was just too linear even for me. I know my darling won't like it.
Do you find that Sisay's tutoring ability makes games play out too similarly? I had a Zur "toolbox" once, and eventually I realized that the "toolbox" was actually the same few cards, regardless of my opponents' board states. It didn't matter what they did. I just did my own thing and won.
I know that this site will be shut down relatively soon, but I hope that it won't take two weeks to figure out a direction.
My darling has a 5-color deck, Jodah to be specific. But he is wanting to have it taken apart because it not only wins too often, but wins in an overwhelming/boring way. (Enter the Infinite/Omniscience/Haste/Eldrazi/Extra Turns) Whatever happens, the deck pretty much pilots itself. The correct answer is always to play the big haymaker in your hand, usually more than one of them.
He wants a new deck, and I am the deck-builder. But I am stuck on what sort of theme to tackle for this one, and I would appreciate any suggestions for generals that can help give the deck a sufficiently satisfying piloting experience.
Here are the things he likes:
* 5-color. He likes 5-color because he likes the mana-base. It has ABUR duals, fetches, etc. He loves those land cards, and Jodah was a good fit because it made the color-fixing relevant.
* Decision trees. He likes having to make the correct decision to make the deck "go". He absolutely loves his Izzet spellslinger deck that I built about six years ago. It's gone from Melek to Mizzix to Niv 3.0, but it always remains Izzet spellslinger, with lots of relevant, important decisions to make.
But it cannot be Superfriends for the simple reason that we have two 5-color Superfriends decks built to be rivals. Giving one the "top" mana-base would be an unfair advantage.
He also dislikes slivers, a lot.
He has nothing against tribal decks, and he is not looking for an "underpowered" (or overpowered!) general, but rather one that offers options and requires decisions.
I have been part of other forums where the moderation was strict. I didn't mind. I do think that here the mods went overboard, and if they are looking to take on board some suggestions for the future, I think that the "spam" infractions were probably the worst/most unwarranted, followed by the flame/troll ones, simply because I often found myself puzzled at seeing what was causing the infractions. It definitely seemed overdone.
Though I am not a big poster overall, at this or any site where I am a member, I did post much less often here than I would have otherwise, simply for fear that my posts would "earn" infractions. I don't suppose fear is the desired atmosphere, so I figured I would put in my two cents here, since now, even if this post were to earn infractions, the site is closing anyway...
Could you elaborate some? What would you change about our moderation style?
I've been here for a few years. I don't post all that often, but I read a lot. I don't recall personally receiving any infractions, but I do know that my husband ditched this site entirely after receiving an infraction for a "spam post", in which he was saying how much he liked whatever was being discussed. I've noticed a similar "itchy trigger finger", as another user put it, in that same vein.
I think I fell in love with Yawgmoth. He is my new mono-B deck. He's just so gorgeous and does everything black wants to do...
I'm probably going to slot Urza in at the head of my current Sai deck. Does anyone have any best guesses about Urza's being ban-worthy? (I hope he's not!)
Well, Kid #1 didn't take to it. Kid #2 was around 9 when she started. Kid #3 was around 6-7. Kid #3 is the only one who ever really went to FNM. She stopped because she said the 2-hour one way trek to play in English wasn't worth it. (She used to play Modern, RG Tron primarily.)
I started them with simple 40 card decks.
Kid #4 still plays 60-card kitchen table Magic. She's tried EDH, but finds it to be too much to track. She's 12 now, and started when she was 7.
Kid #5 doesn't like it.
Kid #6 started at 6. She plays 60-card kitchen table. (She favors RB Vampires and WB Clerics.) She got the Archenemy set for Christmas and loves it.
Kid #7 is only four, but he seems to like it a bit. We'll see how it goes.
I start them with simple 40 card mostly creature-based decks, expanding into ramp, snipe, bounce, and eventually countering, as I expand the decks into 60 card.
EDH comes after that.
Kid #2 has a cube of her own. Kid #3 has five EDH decks of her own. They love it.
Here is my list.
I don't have the 5-color attraction, so I have a harder time with it. I generally prefer to focus down in colors. I actually enjoy mono-color decks...
Well, I have a Ramos. I'm just wondering about viable, variable themes for a 5-color deck. Enchantress would probably be perfect--except that he loves my 4-color Enchantress as it is, headed up by Kynaios and Tiro. (I cannot recommend those guys highly enough as Enchantress commanders. They give a touch of draw to get the engine going until you can set up your Enchantresses, and they allow for use of those excess lands you draw. In my build, there is no group hug aside from K&T themselves, and yet, everyone loves that little hug so much that the Kings are left to their own devices. No one snipes them. Ever.)
So ... what does that leave? Are there some good 5-color tribes? (Besides slivers, which he hates, and Dragons, which we have Kaalia.) I tried God-tribal once, but it ended up being too slow and clunky, with too many of the gods not actually being creatures often enough.
Is there a sort of spell-tribal possibility? I'm reaching here, I know.
I've heard of 5-color Sunforger decks. Do those ever work?
Do you find that Sisay's tutoring ability makes games play out too similarly? I had a Zur "toolbox" once, and eventually I realized that the "toolbox" was actually the same few cards, regardless of my opponents' board states. It didn't matter what they did. I just did my own thing and won.
I like Najeela myself, and Sisay.
We have a 4-color Enchantress, though, and Kaalia dragons already.
My darling has a 5-color deck, Jodah to be specific. But he is wanting to have it taken apart because it not only wins too often, but wins in an overwhelming/boring way. (Enter the Infinite/Omniscience/Haste/Eldrazi/Extra Turns) Whatever happens, the deck pretty much pilots itself. The correct answer is always to play the big haymaker in your hand, usually more than one of them.
He wants a new deck, and I am the deck-builder. But I am stuck on what sort of theme to tackle for this one, and I would appreciate any suggestions for generals that can help give the deck a sufficiently satisfying piloting experience.
Here are the things he likes:
* 5-color. He likes 5-color because he likes the mana-base. It has ABUR duals, fetches, etc. He loves those land cards, and Jodah was a good fit because it made the color-fixing relevant.
* Decision trees. He likes having to make the correct decision to make the deck "go". He absolutely loves his Izzet spellslinger deck that I built about six years ago. It's gone from Melek to Mizzix to Niv 3.0, but it always remains Izzet spellslinger, with lots of relevant, important decisions to make.
But it cannot be Superfriends for the simple reason that we have two 5-color Superfriends decks built to be rivals. Giving one the "top" mana-base would be an unfair advantage.
He also dislikes slivers, a lot.
He has nothing against tribal decks, and he is not looking for an "underpowered" (or overpowered!) general, but rather one that offers options and requires decisions.
Anybody have an idea?
Please, someone tell me it's time!
Though I am not a big poster overall, at this or any site where I am a member, I did post much less often here than I would have otherwise, simply for fear that my posts would "earn" infractions. I don't suppose fear is the desired atmosphere, so I figured I would put in my two cents here, since now, even if this post were to earn infractions, the site is closing anyway...
I've been here for a few years. I don't post all that often, but I read a lot. I don't recall personally receiving any infractions, but I do know that my husband ditched this site entirely after receiving an infraction for a "spam post", in which he was saying how much he liked whatever was being discussed. I've noticed a similar "itchy trigger finger", as another user put it, in that same vein.
So yeah.
And lovely list! I want to build Yawgmoth so bad!
I'm probably going to slot Urza in at the head of my current Sai deck. Does anyone have any best guesses about Urza's being ban-worthy? (I hope he's not!)
I started them with simple 40 card decks.
Kid #4 still plays 60-card kitchen table Magic. She's tried EDH, but finds it to be too much to track. She's 12 now, and started when she was 7.
Kid #5 doesn't like it.
Kid #6 started at 6. She plays 60-card kitchen table. (She favors RB Vampires and WB Clerics.) She got the Archenemy set for Christmas and loves it.
Kid #7 is only four, but he seems to like it a bit. We'll see how it goes.
I start them with simple 40 card mostly creature-based decks, expanding into ramp, snipe, bounce, and eventually countering, as I expand the decks into 60 card.
EDH comes after that.
Kid #2 has a cube of her own. Kid #3 has five EDH decks of her own. They love it.