@Blues your luck only pushed me so far as I lost in the finals. So close, yet so far.
@KingTorg my previous vote was with you on fug, before all of the D_V fallout. I know at one point when we were going through all of the replacements, etc., I was asked if there was a lead I'd be interested in following up on (I can't recall who asked, apologies), and that said, this would be my answer.
I would say that of the one's you listed, UW is the best choice. It's more consistently better than UTron, and if Storm ever gets too good, the ban hammer will be brought out.
Just letting you guys know now, I'm leaving for SCG Atlanta tomorrow, so posting will be probably nonexistent (not that I'm flooding the thread anyway, amirite)
D_V
Lean: Scummy
Reasoning: I don't know what kind of information EternalLurker has on you out-of-game, but in-game, the inconsistencies you have posted on page 6 and 7, in my opinion, justify the scum lean I have on you. I find some of your statements as far fetched as Eternal and Blues do. As well, there seems to already be a consensus about voting for you.
Regardless of the statements EternalLurker has made in post #315, statements D_V has made on pages 6 and 7 in his discussions with Blues and Eternal are so far-fetched, I cannot justify a vote for anyone more than I can for D_V. I had already intended to write a post marking an FOS and vote on MysticSunray for lurking, but it seems that D_V has justified a vote for himself due to inconsistency.
After reading through the past like two and a half pages, this about sums up my feelings (and in turn has saved me from having to write a big post about it myself, so thanks Folza!
In playing the deck recently, I've found myself wanting one more wind condition in the main, and I'm very much liking Dragonlord Ojutai in that slot. It provides a great amount of card advantage while clocking your opponent very quickly.
I've also found myself wanting an additional WinCon, but I'm not sure that Ojutai is the answer; Curving into sweepers is kind of our thing, and I get that Ojutai would ideally come down post-sweeper, but I find myself leaning very hard on sweepers, to the point that I almost want a 4th in the main. For me, the extra WinCon would have to play better with Supreme Verdict. Ætherling comes to mind, but with a 'practical' cmc of 7, the price is just too high. I think the best bet is probably Elspeth, Sun's Champion. I also think something like Secure the Wastes could be okay despite not being perfect with sweepers as the instant speed allows you to pick your spots better, and being an instant allows the flexibility to fire it off early as a defensive spell and recast it later as a wincon with Snapcaster.
Edit** Batterskull also seems like a fine addition. Especially if one were to eschew Sphinx's Revelation for Pull from Tomorrow as I have been advocating. It seems fine with Sweepers, and being able to flash in snapcaster EOT, and suit up next turn is a neat line.
I've considered Elspeth, Batterskull, and Secure the Wastes as options. I just REALLY like the Anticipate off of Ojutai. I think Batterskull would be fine and there's fewer KCommands in Grixis Shadow, so maybe that's the answer.
Round 1: Mono White Hatebears (L)
I was so damn close to stabilizing twice, and he just Flickerwisped the eff out of me both times. Selfless Spirit is very good.
Round 2: GB Tron (L)
We played a 40 minute game 1. I lost to a topdecked Collective Brutality, with a Gideon of the Trials two cards deep in my deck and my opponent at 9. So close. I fought through like 3 Ulamogs, a World Breaker, 2 Wurmcoils and a new Emrakul, and was SO close to winning. Still a bit frustrated at that one. There's an argument to conceding earlier in the game for time reasons, but I completely ran my opponent out of threats and still had at least one Colonnade and one Gideon left. My opponent drew natural Tron game 2 with an Ulamog to boot, so I could just like never get out of that.
Round 3: GW Value Company (W)
Pretty self-explanatory. Lost game 1 to a flurry of creatures. Won games 2 and 3 through boardwipes and planeswalkers.
I'm pretty sure that Glimmer of Genius is like the best card in the 75, almost not close. In playing the deck recently, I've found myself wanting one more wind condition in the main, and I'm very much liking Dragonlord Ojutai in that slot. It provides a great amount of card advantage while clocking your opponent very quickly. I'm planning on playing this at the Atlanta Classic next weekend, so I'll post a report afterwards. Sideboard is still in flux, as always. Meddling Mage seems great against the combo decks, as well as decks with threats we might struggle to handle (like naming Reality Smasher out of Eldrazi Tron so their Caverns don't matter).
What do you think about Nassif´s list? I think he's got some points well. Mana Leak is currently awful
I much prefer Nassif's list to the Mana Leak lists. Leak just isn't that good at the moment, espacially when you're playing 6+ cards that you want to cast on turn 2 that draw you a card.
@KingTorg my previous vote was with you on fug, before all of the D_V fallout. I know at one point when we were going through all of the replacements, etc., I was asked if there was a lead I'd be interested in following up on (I can't recall who asked, apologies), and that said, this would be my answer.
Vote: Vaimes
CLEARLY SCUM, CREAKING THE RULES AND *****
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After reading through the past like two and a half pages, this about sums up my feelings (and in turn has saved me from having to write a big post about it myself, so thanks Folza!
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Vote: D_V
I've considered Elspeth, Batterskull, and Secure the Wastes as options. I just REALLY like the Anticipate off of Ojutai. I think Batterskull would be fine and there's fewer KCommands in Grixis Shadow, so maybe that's the answer.
Considered it. Don't have one, and also don't think I can fit it in with so many taplands and so many Glacial Fortresses.
3x Wall of Omens
1x Snapcaster Mage
1x Dragonlord Ojutai
Enchantments:
4x Spreading Seas
2x Detention Sphere
Planeswalkers:
2x Gideon of the Trials
1x Gideon Jura
Instants and Sorceries:
4x Serum Visions
4x Path to Exile
2x Negate
2x Glimmer of Genius
4x Cryptic Command
3x Supreme Verdict
1x Sphinx's Revelation
4x Flooded Strand
2x Hallowed Founatin
5x Island
2x Plains
4x Celestial Colonnade
3x Glacial Fortress
1x Temple of Enlightenment
1x Mystic Gate
4x Tectonic Edge
2x Rest in Peace
2x Stony Silence
1x Wrath of God
1x Timely Reinforcements
1x Vendilion Clique
2x Disdainful Stroke
1x Dispel
3x Meddling Mage
1x Geist of Saint Traft
1x Grafdigger's Cage
Round 1: Mono White Hatebears (L)
I was so damn close to stabilizing twice, and he just Flickerwisped the eff out of me both times. Selfless Spirit is very good.
Round 2: GB Tron (L)
We played a 40 minute game 1. I lost to a topdecked Collective Brutality, with a Gideon of the Trials two cards deep in my deck and my opponent at 9. So close. I fought through like 3 Ulamogs, a World Breaker, 2 Wurmcoils and a new Emrakul, and was SO close to winning. Still a bit frustrated at that one. There's an argument to conceding earlier in the game for time reasons, but I completely ran my opponent out of threats and still had at least one Colonnade and one Gideon left. My opponent drew natural Tron game 2 with an Ulamog to boot, so I could just like never get out of that.
Round 3: GW Value Company (W)
Pretty self-explanatory. Lost game 1 to a flurry of creatures. Won games 2 and 3 through boardwipes and planeswalkers.
Round 4: Budget GW Aggro (W)
Again, self-explanatory.
I'm pretty sure that Glimmer of Genius is like the best card in the 75, almost not close. In playing the deck recently, I've found myself wanting one more wind condition in the main, and I'm very much liking Dragonlord Ojutai in that slot. It provides a great amount of card advantage while clocking your opponent very quickly. I'm planning on playing this at the Atlanta Classic next weekend, so I'll post a report afterwards. Sideboard is still in flux, as always. Meddling Mage seems great against the combo decks, as well as decks with threats we might struggle to handle (like naming Reality Smasher out of Eldrazi Tron so their Caverns don't matter).
I much prefer Nassif's list to the Mana Leak lists. Leak just isn't that good at the moment, espacially when you're playing 6+ cards that you want to cast on turn 2 that draw you a card.
Also curious as to what DC means.