Quote from tarotplz »Thanks for the replies,
Let me ask you some more questions about the decks though.
In BW Control, what do you think about Liliana of the Veil? Do you think she fits in? If no, why does she fit in Tokens so much better?
Also, like Gazpoole stated above, how much of an impact do the mainboard wraths have in your opinion? How many times are they actually game deciding?
Quote from SavageGaul »Which decks does SFM benefit most? Two-colored (or mono-colored in the case of D&T), non-red, fair decks. It lines up well against the hyperaggro decks that rule the roost without coming anywhere near to invalidating them. Again, I freely admit to bias here. I play UW control and also have been working on brewing and testing the best shell for Orzhov Stoneblade in Modern, in order to be ready when her (hopefully inevitable) unban takes place.
Anyway, apologies for preaching to the choir; I haven’t seen anyone here suggest that SFM should remain on the ban list. It’s just that the case for her release seems to grow stronger and stronger with each passing day.
Quote from Crimson Lancer »Sooo I'm not sure where I'd post this, but this Thread seems pretty on-topic for this idea.
I'd like to see if there's a viable Build that would use the synergy between Karn, Scion of Urza and Tidehollow Sculler. Between Sculler, some vehicles like Looter Scooter or Heart, 3-drop Planeswalkers like Lili or Gid of the Trials, and also running the usual Lingering Souls and discard/removal package, that you'd have a fantastic disruption package with a really powerful grinding engine in Karn. Making a 4/4 or drawing you cards every few turns sounds incredibly powerful, and I feel like if I could figure out a truly nasty creature package to pair this idea with, it could have a lot of potential.
Quote from Colt47 »Quote from idSurge »History of Benalia is also 'lol' worthy right now, but not $40 lol worthy.
I think you are looking at the pre-release version. Regular version is going for 15 dollars. I actually think the card has legs in a couple of builds both modern and standard, but it's not worth the 15. This is probably the first time since maybe gatecrash where the prices on just about everything is probably going to drop.
Quote from idSurge »History of Benalia is also 'lol' worthy right now, but not $40 lol worthy.
Quote from Azetsu »Quote from Unreal207 »I haven't playtested it yet. But the more and more I think about things. I think the new Karn is the card engine we want!
I'm not sure but isn't Ob Nixilis, Pyhrexian Arena, Night's Whisper and Arguels Blood Fast just better?
With Karn the opponent can decide with card you get and he sees both.
On the other side Karn has a high loyality and can produce tokens (which are not strong in our deck)
Also the 4 cmc slot is quite filled by wraths and other walkers
Quote from Unreal207 »I haven't playtested it yet. But the more and more I think about things. I think the new Karn is the card engine we want!
Not surprised SFM is a popular wish (that + BBE would open a Naya deck maybe, or the comeback of a White Jund variant), although I ain't ready to vote for her in a format where nearly every midrange deck would play it (Collected Company, UWx, BGx, Eldrazi, many Tribals even Death's Shadow and Affinity may investigate into it). It would hurt diversity so much.