MTG Salvation

I'm not sure if returning lands as a cost is something you want to do on the level of a mechanic. It's a neat effect for a certain number of cards, but I could see it being kind of annoying as a big thing, especially for newer players. Is this something many people really get excited about?

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Twenty is a lot, other go to numbers would be 15 because 5 and 14 as double the starting hand size. Though it's really hard to evaluate as this is technically difficult for the opponent to disrupt and some cards let you draw a lot.

That's why I erred on the high side. I figured it's the kind of alt win effect you don't want to be super strong in-and-of-itself, but as more of a bonus on an already decent value card to close out the game if you really go off. Not something you build your deck to really rely on, but more give you a little inevitability.

Designed to be a fun build-around card.

Calculation Machine
Artifact (R)
You have no maximum hand size.
At the beginning of your draw step, draw an additional card. Then, if you have 20 or more cards in your hand, you win the game.

Wondering what the right number for the cards in hand requirement is. Erred on the higher side, but hard for me to say what's right. Obviously, something you would want to test, but any ideas?

This is essentially free ramp for any heavy green creature decks. I don't know why people seem to think this is trash. As @Randuir said, this is a very usable ability. You can spam it all day without virtually no downside to use. Might not be meta breaking, but this seems sure to show up in standard if nothing else.

Quote from Buffsam89 »

I 1000% disagree that this is “mythic worthy”.

This is still an overcosted wrath withbuilt in drawback, stapled to an overcosted beater with no evasion.

If this was a true Day of Judgement and the creature had something a bit more relevant in terms of pressure/survivability, sure, but as is, this isn’t a very good mythic.

For reference, we have Bonecrusher Giant, which seems more deserving of a mythic spot than this.

Mythic rarity is not about sheer competitive power level, it's about style and splashiness. Bonecrusher Giant is more of an aggressively good card, while this is more of a big splashy one.
Isn't not all the good cards being at mythic rare what we want?

Enchanted broom army coming in to clean house.


I love this set.

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Seriously why are they giving video game sites previews?

Outreach, obviously. They want people to see their ads who might not have ever bought any of their product otherwise.

But about the card. Big beatstick, but without evasion, protection or any effect other than stats, not sure how much use you'll really get from this. Very chonky though. And I appreciate that the Green ruler is a Giant.

Weird that this isn't a 4/4 with 'another red source' since that's usually how they deal with team buff effects.

But there it is. More dwarves in red. Cool.

A good card to have in standard generally to provide an answer to various potential wackiness.

Get together a few gingerbread men so I can bring my mighty Feasting Troll King back from the dead.
This set is fun.

Pretty solid. Probably limited fodder though.

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Quote from leslak »

Don't know if it is confirmed but there is a chance you can open hin on one of the collector's boosters.

Yes buy a box promos are in those more exspenisve boosters

Correct.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/project-booster-fun-2019-07-20

Collector Booster
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• 1 Ancillary Card (Non-foil)

This slot is for new cards that are connected to the set but don't appear in Draft Boosters. () For Throne of Eldraine, this will be the Buy-a-Box card, the new cards from the Planeswalker Decks, and the new cards from the Brawl Decks

Quote from Marl Karx »

This is why I am HIGHLY dubious of "psychographics" (which is not a real concept outside of the head of Magic designers wrapped up in inane "lifestyle" research IMO).

Which I'm sure you're an expert on.

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By linking color to "philosophy" above all else you easily miss the forest for trees -- in this case somewhat literally.

Hold on, what happened to psychographics? What does color pie philosophy have to do with it?
Also, the color pie is not based on philsophy above all else. Thematic and aesthetic associations (like the ones you are advocating) are easily more important, as you can tell from the extremely obvious influence it has over every single set.

Quote from Marl Karx »

When you are THAT associated with a forest (AND archery), you should be green.

Archery doesn't really have anything to do with green. Plenty of archer/archery cards in other colours.
Hanging out in the woods isn't the strongest link either, though that is something.

Quote from Marl Karx »

Its not even that much of a stretch on the philosophy front either because you can depict him and his men as Diggers (or Levellers I guess if they're too squeamish for that)

That sounds like a stretch to me, and I don't know how you possibly expect to convey any of that on a magic card. I would say that sort of political philosophy might be more white than green anyway.

You want to know why I think this card is red? One of the main reasons is because they wanted it to steal things from your opponent and red can do that. Blue or black wouldn't exactly suit a 'Robber of the rich, giver to the poor" character, would they? And considering Robin Hood is a daring action-hero lawbreaker- all pretty red things both philosophically and more thematically/aesthetically- that feels like a pretty good fit to me. Robin Hood is a classic vigilante hero, and much easier to fit into monored than monowhite.

Quote from TearingEons »

I enjoy the art and design of this card, just a little sad it's not legendary. I mean, if a random frog monster, The Gitrog Monster, can be legendary, then why isn't Magic's Nessie a legend too?

Not everything in a set can be Legendary, and that's especially a thing when you have a set like this with so many cards that could be legends flavourfully.

Quote from Neuroticneurok »

We'll have to wait and see what the rules text for the card actually is. If they didn't mean 'that card' but instead meant 'all cards exiled with ~", then they should have put that in the text.

This is the official rules text, isn't it? It's not a translation.