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Here's your third Crucible of Worlds effect, stapled to a land Panharmonicon and a 5/7 with reach. You're welcome, landfall.
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oh by the way it’s not the 3rd one
its the 4th one
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Sep 8, 20201
Ryperior74 posted a message on [ZNR] Ancient Greenwarden— Paste Magazine previewPosted in: The Rumor Mill
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Sep 5, 20201
FlossedBeaver posted a message on [RETIRED] [Admin] bobthefunny's Strategic ChalkboardPosted in: Staff HelpdesksQuote from TheOnlyOne652089 »Yes, its called affirmative action.
The only legal form of systematic racism in the USA.
There is no such thing as reverse racism. The continued denial of actual racism is, in fact, racist in and of itself.
Quote from TheOnlyOne652089 »For anything else everyone is equal before the law.
Theoretically, but not in practice.
Quote from TheOnlyOne652089 »This is a sick disregard of all the achievements of the last century.
Before the law any people of color are equal, EXCEPT that black have the actual benefit of affirmative action.
There is literally no oppression at all.
I have a BA in history from UCLA, and that is probably the lowest accolade among my peers in just this thread. What are your qualifications to be in a superior position of knowledge over me?
Quote from TheOnlyOne652089 »You have to realize that violence is NEVER acceptable.
These disgusting excuses for violence are a total failure to any social harmony.
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Simply put, any person that justifies their violence in a way like you suppose will put themselves in a role that ANYBODY else will dislike them.
Nobody wants to employee a person that justifies violence or insults against other people, and nobody should endure such infraction if you honor human dignity in the slightest.
Nobody is advocating for or justifying violence; rather, we are making an attempt to understand its roots. The best way to eliminate violence is not to quash it with more violence, but to prevent it in the first place. This is a major social issue that requires a proactive approach, which cannot happen without a fundamental understanding of the core dynamics at play, or the history of social injustice. What this is patently not is a chicken-or-the-egg scenario; we know which form of violence came first, and it did not spring from the BLM protesters. If you had a vested interest in actually preventing real violence, you should be able to bring yourself to admit this as fact.
Quote from TheOnlyOne652089 »People that act out like that are criminals and there is no excuse for going ballistic and terrorising your neighborhood because anybody claims oppressions of hundreds of years ago against generations they barely if at all remember.
This is a disingenuous take on reality, no doubt being fueled by conservative media outlets (or worse, alt-right conspiracy theories). The protests have been, by and large, mostly peaceful. The occasional Fox News soundbite with a provocative fire raging in the background is not a fair, or realistic, representation of the ongoing movement.
Quote from TheOnlyOne652089 »Nobody has to "right the wrongs" of the generation before them.
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You are not responsible for whatever your parents did and you are in no obligation at all to right whatever somebody claims they did.
And especially nobody is in the right to demand any of that from someone else.
Okay... I don't think anyone believes that 'blood guilt' actually exists, except as a knee-jerk defense to proposed equitable solutions. It's certainly not the same to say that generational poverty, its roots and associated consequences, exists and is patently observable. Black people are suffering as a direct consequence of past injustices, and while it's unfair to hold contemporary Americans accountable (and again, I see nobody advocating such), it doesn't mean we can't enact justice on their behalf. Black people can be raised to a higher station in society without other people (chiefly, whites) losing theirs. Society isn't a zero-sum game, but the perception that it is continues to fuel both personal and systemic racism.
Quote from TheOnlyOne652089 »Every life is a blank sleet.
Try explaining that to someone born into poverty.
Quote from TheOnlyOne652089 »Its arbitrary and pointless to dwell in the past...
And yet it is critical to observe the past, so that we better understand how we got to this point, and so that we can avoid the errors of the past.
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Sep 5, 20201
mikeyG posted a message on [RETIRED] [Admin] bobthefunny's Strategic ChalkboardPosted in: Staff HelpdesksQuote from bobthefunny »
My apologies, what I meant was, that this should be that area. This is a gaming forum, for discussing a hobby and a past time.
I think that's a great ideal, but still naive. I've never felt this community was truly that (literally as far back as the 'News days), nor any other comparable space online. Though, I don't really expect them to be, wherever you find people interacting you will find issues of racism/homophobia/misogyny/etc. And again, I won't speak for all marginalized people, but I don't have an expectation that that ideal can be reached - just that the people responsible for the space try to facilitate healthier discussions.
The Harry Potter community is dealing with issues of transphobia, sports communities are having conversations about racism, etc. Communities dedicated to hobbies and pastimes aren't devoid of these conversations. I get why you're aspiring to that, I just don't think it's realistic. And to a degree, I don't know that it's responsible, either.
To hopefully clarify what I mean by that, I'll use the analogy of a classroom as it's my bread and butter at work. One of the most frequent requests I get is to conduct professional development for teachers because the schools have policies around making classrooms safer, but many teachers lack for the confidence/skills to intervene in instances where bigotry is expressed in subtle/casual ways. Teachers already have enough to deal with, and they get that this is also important, but for many it's just not their strength and it's easier just to end conversations and maybe send a student to the office for detention if they do something egregious. Those teachers foster environments of neutrality, which isn't the same thing as fostering environments of safety and of growth - which is why my team gets called in for PD. To their perspective, the space is orderly and hurtful conversations are shut down so things are good. Yet from the perspective of some of the kids in class, they will see things differently. Common sentiments expressed in our focus groups were things like "I felt like if I defended myself, I'd be in trouble too", "no one stood up for me, not even my teacher", "I feel isolated/unsupported/anxious in that space", and "I don't want to be there."
That's clearly not a 1 to 1 comparison, but I think it helps illustrate where I'm coming from.
I left it general. People when attacked will lash back, and this places stress on all who participate in the confrontation. Willingly or unwillingly.
Dogwhistles to alt-righty/bigoted attitudes is a problem. These have no place on this site.
True, but they're here and I know you just want people to report and ignore but that's not happening and I think understanding why it's not is important.
I suppose a part of my struggle with this is the emphasis on attacks and confrontations. While certainly that might be accurate for some interactions, I think it's reductive to categorize all of the conversations we're talking about that way. I've seen posters attempt more of a call-in strategy, and I think more often than not the pushback against bigotry has been conducted with an intent of real shifts in beliefs. Hell, I've PMed posters to engage them in real dialogue away from the public view where people may be more inclined to posture and snipe for clout.
We ask that you report this issues to the moderation staff. If the staff responses are not adequate, that itself is an issue, which hopefully can be addressed and improved through discussion with community members in the staff inboxes and helpdesks, such as this one, and seeing what other ways community involvement can be improved.
I guess ultimately the issue here is one of vision. Do we think a community is healthier when hard conversations are stifled or when they're given space to proceed healthily and in good faith?
How do you think community involvement can be improved?
Thank you for your viewpoint here. I agree that it would be irresponsible to assume that confrontation would not occur. The point I was trying to make is that this type of confrontation in a digital environment often serves to escalate and exacerbate the problem.
Having allies and showing support is important, but this is best served by showing solidarity with the victim than in antagonizing the aggressor.
I suppose in the short term that could be true, but I do not believe that escalation is inevitable, nor do I think instances of escalation are lost causes even when they occur. Conflict is messy, so is growth - that's true of individuals and of communities.
I suppose that's how I see the role of authority figures in this context. They sift through the escalating tension to identify the healthy version of the conversation, deescalate and guide people to that healthier version of the conversation. If things are escalating, it's because people are invested in the issue on the table. I say harness that energy, just ensure it's directed in productive ways rather than destructive ways.
Last year, my city's Pride Festival hit the skids after a cluster**** of racism-related conflicts. In the wake of it, the community turned on itself, with escalating tension, death threats, people losing jobs, and a whole organization dissolving. My org began hosting summits to facilitate conversations at the organization/community leader level to hopefully resolve a lot of the unresolved conflicts and filter that down to the community level. Obviously we weren't going to solve racism with a series of summits, but conversations and deescalating meant we were moving in that direction. People shared, people heard about things they'd never experienced, structural issues and power dynamics in the community were exposed as unhealthy, relationships strengthened, and simple resolutions/initiatives were undertaken. There's still a ton of work to be done, but the community is healing because we made space for hard conversations, and yes for confrontations where warranted.
What I would hope to have occur is that the incident get reported to the moderation, such that the offender can be made aware of the issue in a way that would prevent escalation and reduce repetition of the behavior.
Do you believe that is happening? Do you think simply stopping the behavior on the forum is enough? These questions are more rhetorical in nature, more food for thought than otherwise.
There is certainly a rift right now between staff and community, in part due to the current burden and capabilities of the staff. I recognized that there is much room for improvement, and I certainly hope these discussions can help be a step towards that improvement.
For what it's worth, and please take this in the spirit intended, but when people perceive a vacuum of leadership on issues of principle they will attempt to fill it. I think the sentiments being expressed to you are indicative of that perception at work. I say that only because I think it's a dynamic the staff should understand the motivation behind if they want to dispel the perception and I think it ought to be considered as the staff discuss things. -
Aug 17, 20201
lookingupanddown posted a message on Secret Lair: Prime Slime available for order right nowPosted in: The Rumor Mill
Necrotic Ooze, Acidic Slime, Scavenging Ooze, The Mimeoplasm and Voidslime make their way to a slime-themed Secret Lair.
Good news: This entire thing is nonfoil.
Bad news: You have less that 24 hours to decide if you want to spend $30 for this... and shipping starts in mid-October.
If you like the art and Voidslime's flavor text, here's the link to order. -
Sep 4, 20201
sleeper agent 2.0 posted a message on [ZNR] Roil Eruption— Anna Hollinrake previewYou all think this should have just been a strictly better Lightning Strike?!?Posted in: The Rumor Mill -
Sep 3, 2020
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PigmyWurm posted a message on [ZNR] Inscription of Abundance— InMagic Community previewIs this the most busted rare ever? No. But these are three effects that seem great for a midrange deck if low to the ground agro decks are running around. Kill a creature, win combat or negate a burn spell with a permanent boost, win a race by gaining a chunk of life. It feels like the first you cast for 2 which helps you cast the 2nd for 5.Posted in: The Rumor Mill -
Sep 3, 20201
wallycaine posted a message on [ZNR] - Expeditions have returned!Posted in: The Rumor Mill
So there's a couple huge holes in your "reasoning" here. One is that decks aren't limited to 8 fetches, and most in standard would put in 10-12. So your example of Fabled Passage and Birth is already including less tutoring than just having a cycle of fetches in standard. Furthermore, just going by the number completely ignores that the play pattern is vastly different. Birth (and the vast majority of other tutoring effects) are spells, not lands. That means that the act of shuffling is less front loaded for the game. If you have an opening hand with 4 fetchlands, then you're going to spend your first four turns shuffling. If you have an opening hand with 4 Births, on the other hand... well, you probably should mulligan, but if you don't, they're going to get spaced out because you'll presumably have other things to do, and you won't start shuffling until turn 2 at the earliest. Even Fabled Passage is specifically designed to encourage you to wait until the later game to use it, so there's more likely to be a board state to consider while you wait. Additionally, the timing makes it so you can frequently drop Birth and pass once you've grabbed the Plains, letting your opponent start their turn while you shuffle. Fetch lands rarely afford that opportunity, because you need to fully resolve the ability before casting more spells, and you're often fetching to grab mana to cast your spells. So even if you were somehow limited to only 8 fetches, a deck with 8 fetches would still have more issues with shuffling than a deck with 4 Fabled and 4 Birth. And, as the final nail in the coffin, consider this: Your deck with 8 fetches would still run Birth of Meletis. Your multicolor green decks would still run Cultivate on top of their 10 fetches. So in order to print fetches but maintain the level of shuffling they're on right now, they would have to commit to not printing ANY land tutoring for 3 years. No Cultivate reprints. No new effects like Birth of Meletis. No standard variations on rampant growth effects like Scour the Sands or Migration Path. That's a hell of an ask from design. And that's on top of not allowing nonbasics to have land types for 3 years as well, not just 1.Quote from Dontrike »Quote from DJK3654 »
Note how almost all of these cards fetch basic lands for ramp and filtering effects. That's the kind of effect WotC wants shuffling for.
Yes, they do like basic land fetching, but at the same time in your very links Maro stated that too many isn't what they want either, which is is strange as 8 fetches in a deck is no different than 4 Fabled Passage and 4 The Birth of Meletis (or whatever other combination of FB and another card).
They say there can be too many fetches yet put out enough land tutoring where it's the same thing. Do you see the holes in their reasoning when compared to what they do? -
Sep 2, 2020
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sleeper agent 2.0 posted a message on [ZNR] Coralhelm Chronicler— Ashlizzlle previewPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Xcric »
Perhaps you missed the "right now"
This guy shouldve been one of the last revealed, not one of the first. You know, after we see all the kicker stuff not before. As it stands at the moment he screams bad rare because theres nothing to base him on.
An into the roil reprint is cool, but its going to take more than that to make this guy good/exciting.
Frankly, with what we've seen so far i expect to be disappointed.
Nah, I caught that, which is why I pointed out there's already a good target that's been revealed "right now." There's a decent black removal too.
Hard to square your criticism with your last sentence. You think this is bad because there aren't enough good kicker cards spoiled yet, but based on this being bad you expect the kicker cards spoiled later to be bad? Can't win huh. -
Sep 2, 20201
Guesswork posted a message on [ZNR] Roiling Vortex—Eric Froehlich previewPosted in: The Rumor Mill
Is there ever a time when you would want this card and Fires in the same deck?Quote from Ritokure »Oh, and also, this card is on Fires colors itself goddAMNIT STOP DOING THIS WIZARDS. Seriously, it's like they are actively trying to promote a single-deck format in Standard. -
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sleeper agent 2.0 posted a message on [ZNR] Coralhelm Chronicler— Ashlizzlle previewPosted in: The Rumor MillQuote from Xcric »going to have give me some kicker spells worth playing, because right now this guy aint doing *****.Quote from Tiro of Meletis »I got excited by the name and art, but it’s more narrow limited crap? Ugh. Come on
Uh, Into the Roil is getting reprinted. A 2/2 that draws you an into the roil is good.
(Also, we're on like day 2 of spoilers, there will be more cards with kicker, chill.) - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
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Right at the end there, you get at the problem with relinquishing power in order to produce freedom- others will take that power. A societal structure that exhibit very little control is easy to simply be changed. You've expressly stated that such a society would allow other sorts of orders within it (I presume this is what you mean). You know what I think will happen? One of those orders is not going to like your society and there going to start controlling it. Power in a society does not come from an institution, the institution is just a sampling, the real entity at work is human behaviour. Government is just one way behavior can be expressed, but there are countless others. If you want to address problems in the way people are acting, there are far more effective ways than cutting of one head of the hydra just because it's the scariest to you at the moment.
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I don't think stun messes the flavour of freeze themed cards. Stun is more flavorful for some cards than others, but so is create and the use of the term library and exile. I don't think it stun actually hurts the flavor of any card.
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Disagree. There are alternate words like 'stun' or 'immobilise' that avoid this association.
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Oh you mean this plea were you misunderstand the point of the thread and use it an excuse to deflect criticism despite you having no qualms about repeatedly criticising evolutionary theory?
"This is not a thread for debating ideas, but for expressing them.
Maybe if you make a thread for that purpose I will join, make a good opening statement and maybe I will find it worth my time."
This IS a thread for debating ideas, obviously, it's on the 'debate' section. It's just not about debating the general accuracy of religious belief, but rather debating the philosophy of how people approach belief. A question you have not engaged in any real capacity.
Your first post defined some of your beliefs. Which is relevant, but still not the question at hand.
Later on you get tantalizing close to truly engaging with the subject, but your answer is superficial and deflective:
"What would make me change my mind?
Well, that's sort of like asking a mathematician(or me since I am a mathematician) what would make him change his mind that 2+2=4, you see, it would take a fundamental shift in the nature of his perception(i.e. going insane) or the way the universe operated for the mind to change at that level, same as what would make me change my mind about the work of the Logos."
So, no, you haven't done anything but miss the point, argue on tangents and flagrantly violate forum rules repeatedly. If you want to me debate you, you're not trying very hard to actually having an honest and respectable one. I am fully willing to listen to whatever arguments you present, and answer any objections you have. But you, it seems, aren't, because you want to have your own argument.
To that, sir, I say, good luck, because I won't be engaging you on this thread any further until you start making a serious attempt to enagage with the topic. You might, however, having more pressing matters though in preventing yourself from being banned from this forum permanently.
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What I said was that quoting someone who supports very much opposed positions to you simply because of one tiny mostly entirely irrelevant thing to the discussion at hand that he does shares with you is dumb. The only reason to reference him is to lend authority to your point, but given Einstein's views answer the objection you are trying to make (evolution by natural selection does not need random mutations, only spontaneous ones), it doesn't get you any.
Little own that your posts here mostly argue against opposing worldviews when the thread is clearly not about that and is about discussing the nature of each person's belief, their philosophy when it comes to the notion of belief. If all you want to do here is basically insult and demean others views and tout your supposedly enlightened ones then you have come to the wrong place because why I made this thread was to engage religious belief from an entirely different angle than most discussions, and that there are people like you who seem refusee to have that discussion is exactly why I think it's important to try to have.
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At the cost of contributing to what is according to WotC's market research and theorising, and I think we can probably agree, magic's biggest limitation- barrier to entry.
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Yes, Blinking Spirit is our most generous master. The master will cares, the master will not hurt you.
In all seriousness, Izzet_Commando, I'd love to hear your arguments about some of this stuff.
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Vehicles makes perfect sense as being in Kaladesh. MaRo has repeatedly referred to some old mechanic idea that he liked being used, and has described Kaladesh as 'making you feel like an inventor' and there also the significantly possibility that this mechanic is the abandoned E mechanic from Mirrodin block- an artifact block. 'Vehicles' sounds exactly like what I'd expect of that.
But yes, maybe there's something different.
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Yes, of course. Mark Rosewater clearly doesn't care enough about the players to force a mechanic originally intended to be a joke that he's one of the sole supporters in R&D of actually doing. Instead he's doing that terrible thing where he's using an idea for a mechanic he'd been holding onto for a long time and he thinks players will really like. Despicable.
Clearly the only appropriate response to this heinous act of not satisfying the expectations of a limited group of fans is riots. Get out ya pitchforks, guys!