Gargizon 7GGU
Creature-Leviathan
Trample
Gargizon can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponets control.
You can't play spells or lands. All magic is nullified around it.Further more the creature seems to expel an researchers other than the ones the created it.Test on it are currently not possible.Alternate means will be needed to study it.-Simic researchers notes
13/13
Was gonna do it a hybrid but we already have one with trample
The Dimir will definatly be mentioned a few times through out the Dis book.He did the same thing in Rav and GP.It goes with the style of the guild, unseen and in the background.Szadek is still probably running the guild in his weakend and imprisoned state.He was running the guild while only seeing a hand full of its members,and undermining other guilds,i doubt it would be any different from prison.
Will Szadek had a hand in the fall of the guildpact,more than likely.He'll use the Rakdos and Nephlim to do so.The Rakdos would love to see it gone so they could fully spread anarchy and destruction.And the Nephlim are't bound but the guild pact.The Simic will be used to control the Nephlim as they have affinity for monsters.And the Azorius will bug out because someone is trying to destroy the only power they have.
Shared Delusion RB
Sorcery (C)
Look at target players hand and choose a card,then that player looks at your hand and chooses a card.Both players discard the chosen cards. The Rakdos don't care if you lose your mind.In fact they don't care if they lose they're mind either.
Or
Mind Backlash RB
Sorcery (C)
Target player discards a card.Discard a card from your hand at random.
Cheap but not to powerful.It would still help you get to haveing no hand.
This seems most definatly the other psuedo-keyword maro was talking about.Just like radiance it won't always work in your favor.Look at it block wise too,radiance is still worse and only gets worse with more multi color and hybrid added in.When Dis they're will onl be three guild that don't share a color with Boros,Dimir U/B,Golgari G/B,and Simic G/U.The other six guilds share a color with Boros,makeing radiance the least likely to help just your creatures or just hurt they'res.
And to all those who hate it.HELLLLLOOOO! Its a common 2 drop with a possible ablility.The only other one we have to compare it to is Scab-Clan Mauler.Without the counters from bloodthirst it wasn't that great.And the the chances of casting it with bloodthirst aren't always that great.But if you drew blood it was great 2 drop.
Does anyone else realize this actually help you if you have too mulligan alot due to lack of land.You'd have to play everything just to have things on the table instead about worrying holding things in your hand just in case.
Black-Im going to kill you,your worthless and i don't like you.The sacrifices i make to do that are nessesary.
Red-Don't tell me what to do.You are't stronger than me.I'll fight you to prove im stronger.
Rakdos-Why i choose insanity over sanity?Simple i want power and i want you dead.Worrying about how i get that power and how i kill you only delays me from takeing power and killing you with it.
Dbuel
It's ridiulous? I think you meant to say "ridiculous." Also, the word you want is "they're" as in "proof they're fake," and not "their." It's unbelievable to me that you can rudely use euphemisms such as "tin foil hat" and at the same time spell and type as you do. When you spell and type improperly, it only ironically points out the rudeness and unnecessariness of your using euphemisms such as "tin foil hat."
You see, a person who can't spell, type or choose the correct word from among homonyms gives the appearance, without intending to, of being unbalanced. Now, no one here is unbalanced, but why go around giving that impression when a little study can correct the problem.
Also, you're confusing "saying that they're fake" with "pointing out that Wizards must prove that they represent real products." These are two different things. It's because you haven't grasped my point that you misrepresent it.
*beams*
None of the above is intended as a flame, by the way. I'm trying to calmly discuss facts while you're being rude.
Jiyor
The fact that they gave a C&D to Salvation,and are sueing a man for 90K+ leans more in the diredtion that the playtest cards are in fact real.
____ = direction
Can i make this any clearer?
You can't understand my point because of one word being mispelled?Obviously common sense is much too harmful to your superior intelligence that you must ware a tin foil hat to protect it.
Your ideas is that someone could possiblymake playtest stickers.Yes i ageee someone could make them.But no one would want to make custom playtest stickers because they don't look like the real cards.It would would be a waste of time to make a program no one would use.
To belevie a company would go out of "they're" way to cursh an "innocent?" person by planting false information.Companies are evil,no one here will even bother to defend that,but no company is that vile.If you or i got sue over this they would be that evil.But R_E has been doing this for years with a high crediblity rate.They have no need to place false information on him just to crush him.
Further more you've been more rude than I.You,and only you,have for roughly 4 or so posts now commmented on my incorrect spelling.No one else has stated that my statement is incorrect because of my grammar.The possibility of your theory is so remote that to base a solid defence on such is foolish.Saying that the possiblity that is highly more likely wrong is also foolish.Your whole quote above is about you superior grammar.I nore anyother poster here should have to go through the post until every word and its useage is proper.I don't have to look up the statistics online to tell you the vast majority of peopel in the US don't use or write proper english.You just using it to mask the fact that the possiblity is not in your favor.In so many words you have insulted my intellegence just so you can feel that your ego isn't harmed.If your going to base someones ideas on the fact that "they're" not as intelligent as you please go elsewhere.
technik4
Furthermore, since both Rav and GP have avoided making multicolor enchantments
Ummm what?They made 10 multicolor enchantments.How is that avoiding makeing multicolor enchantments?
Anyhow.I would be nice to see how they do an enchantment block now.Back in Urzas white got the most enchantmanet interaction,blue and green got some and black and red got next to nill interaction.Lets just hope its not insane like Mirrodin block.
dbuel
Yes, exactly. This is why it matters whether the alleged playtest cards represent any possible products.
In other words, the fact that Wizards filed a lawsuit is evidence that the lawsuit is valid? It really isn't, though.
In court it will matter,not on this thread.Saying the the playtest cards are fake,with absolutelty no proof that their fake,and claiming some conspiracy theory is just ridiulous.
Your acting like R_E was a harmless butterfly that landed on Wizards shoulder.Then they crused him because they could.
The fact that they gave a C&D to Salvation,and are sueing a man for 90K+ leans more in the diredtion that the playtest cards are in fact real.Wizard obvioulsy saw R_E as a bee.They are allergic.And instead of getting stung,swatted it.Just because Wizards isn't being hurt in sales now doesn't mean they can't see hurt from future sales.
So put on your tin foil hat and take your "if the glove dosen't fit you must acquit" back to your bomb shelter.
Sabbath_Fiend Slaugter ( When this creature is put into a graveyard from play, destroy target permanent with converted manacost equal to this creature's manacost.)
Black and red with Encahntment destruction,i dont think so.
Doob
Well, atleast the other way, the guildamge killed itself with its ability, i still think this is way overpowered.
Sabbath_Fiend
Reusable mass removal is something they'll never do for two mana.
Please explain to me how paying 4BBBB and sacing four creatures to get -4/-4 is over powered compaired to paying 2BB and sacing two creatures to get the same effect?
Sabbath_Fiend
And, continuous artifact/land removal is never gonna se the game at two mana.
Except for the fact that you'd still be losing land too. IsoShatter anyone.Well the artifact part anyway.
And the black ability make on yours dosen't even fit the guild.Some how the suicidal anarchist guild truns into This minus the life gain?
dbuel
Can something be a "trade secret" if it's not part of the trade?
A trade secret is information on possible products.Whether or not that information become a produce or not isn't really relevant if it's copyrighted.If it never sees the light of day it dosen't matter.Wizards copyright the information to cover their butts.
dbuel
Anyone can scribble on pieces of paper, put a copyright at the bottom and call that a "trade secret."
Thats laughable.Your claiming any one can make the playest stickers.If anyone can please go right ahead.Prove me wrong and print one them scan it.I'll even give you a good idea of what it should be.
Jiyor, the Jackass 0
Creature-Human Dufus
When you play <this>, you lose the game.
0/0
You show me a scan of a card with a sticker like that or similar (like the one wizards print),then i'll believe your theory.The only people who have those stickers are Wizards.
Your just trying to make it sound like some outrageous conspiracy theory.
Falsified information screws your case,it dosen't help.Why would a company go balls to the wall that this is true information when it wasn't?They stand to lose alot if the information was false.R_E would definatly countersue.R_E may not be able to 90K,but Hasbro could definetly pay the money he could ask for.Which would be a lot more than 90k
akmage
an opinion from a record high post count holder isn't any more valid.
Ummmm What?Im sorry but thats just compleatly untrue.All i have to do is point out rumor season.During GP rumor season if i had put up Giant Solifuge as is,flavor text,card number and all,no one would have beleived me.I only had 50-60 posts at the time.I would've had insults flung at me like money poo.Though some would say their going to wait to see if R_E or another know poster to confirms it.If i had 500 post or so i would've gotten stuff like "that would be a cool card" or "is Wizards really gonna print that?",most people would might give it a 50/50.If i had a 1000 or more posts people would consider it truth.Unless it was compleatly ridiculous.
Though i do agree Millmaster came down kinda hard on the guy for only haveing one post.
I think it will be enchantments also.I don't think their going to but the bleed into their activation cost.Instan/soceries just boosted the spells effect then it was gone.Creatures just got a temporary boost then it was just vanila after it came into play.Im all for catching us off guard and suprising us.But that would unbalanceing to the other guilds.The Azurious,Simic and Rakdos would have a constantly reusable bleed effect and the other guilds wouldn't.You can only get a discards out a Shrieking Grotesque when you play black,and you can only get it up to four times if you put that many in your deck.
Frighting 3BB
Enchantment (U)
When Frighting comes inot play, if R was spent to play Frighting, creature you control gain haste until end of turn.
Creatures you control have fear.
One them was a card that saw print in Onslaught.
Someone in a post (probably this one) pointed out the other was a playtest for mirage that never saw print but wizards showed us som years ago.
The third was an unknown card.
Weather or not it is real dosn't matter.The card could see print in the next block or never see print.It's a play test card so in actuality its not a real card at all.But Wizards are the ones who decide if we see such information.Someone signed an NDA to work at Wizards.They then sent him the information,he showed it publicly.He got into trouble.
MaRo and others have stated many time how a card got held in storage until they made it.Even if they don't make it it dosen't give players the right to see it.Coldsnap is an entrie set of playtest cards the eventually found a home for.Coldsnap is a set made of cards that keep getting shelved,for years.Mindslaver got shelved for about 2-3 years until they finally made it.
Just because we want to see playtest cards doesn't give us some devine birthright to do so.
And more to the point the unknown card is most likely a real card or will see print soon.
The black was too fast and efficent how about -1/-1 instead.Still fast but not as efficent.
The read one is fine.It's either a repeatable Shatter with tempo loos or a repeatable Raze that cost 1 extra.
Keep reading the book.You'll find out why he's not going to be in Dissention.Though i agree i don't see Rakdos himself being the main foucs of the book.But who knows.
Creature-Leviathan
Trample
Gargizon can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponets control.
You can't play spells or lands.
All magic is nullified around it.Further more the creature seems to expel an researchers other than the ones the created it.Test on it are currently not possible.Alternate means will be needed to study it.-Simic researchers notes
13/13
Was gonna do it a hybrid but we already have one with trample
Will Szadek had a hand in the fall of the guildpact,more than likely.He'll use the Rakdos and Nephlim to do so.The Rakdos would love to see it gone so they could fully spread anarchy and destruction.And the Nephlim are't bound but the guild pact.The Simic will be used to control the Nephlim as they have affinity for monsters.And the Azorius will bug out because someone is trying to destroy the only power they have.
Cry of Contrition & Shrieking Grotesque dosen't make Orzhov big on discard.
Golgari only had Nightmare Void
Dimir had its Guildmage and Consult the Necrosages
Rakdos will have at least one discard spell.Either forced or random.
Sorcery (C)
Look at target players hand and choose a card,then that player looks at your hand and chooses a card.Both players discard the chosen cards.
The Rakdos don't care if you lose your mind.In fact they don't care if they lose they're mind either.
Or
Mind Backlash RB
Sorcery (C)
Target player discards a card.Discard a card from your hand at random.
Cheap but not to powerful.It would still help you get to haveing no hand.
And to all those who hate it.HELLLLLOOOO! Its a common 2 drop with a possible ablility.The only other one we have to compare it to is Scab-Clan Mauler.Without the counters from bloodthirst it wasn't that great.And the the chances of casting it with bloodthirst aren't always that great.But if you drew blood it was great 2 drop.
Does anyone else realize this actually help you if you have too mulligan alot due to lack of land.You'd have to play everything just to have things on the table instead about worrying holding things in your hand just in case.
Black-Im going to kill you,your worthless and i don't like you.The sacrifices i make to do that are nessesary.
Red-Don't tell me what to do.You are't stronger than me.I'll fight you to prove im stronger.
Rakdos-Why i choose insanity over sanity?Simple i want power and i want you dead.Worrying about how i get that power and how i kill you only delays me from takeing power and killing you with it.
____ = direction
Can i make this any clearer?
You can't understand my point because of one word being mispelled?Obviously common sense is much too harmful to your superior intelligence that you must ware a tin foil hat to protect it.
Your ideas is that someone could possiblymake playtest stickers.Yes i ageee someone could make them.But no one would want to make custom playtest stickers because they don't look like the real cards.It would would be a waste of time to make a program no one would use.
To belevie a company would go out of "they're" way to cursh an "innocent?" person by planting false information.Companies are evil,no one here will even bother to defend that,but no company is that vile.If you or i got sue over this they would be that evil.But R_E has been doing this for years with a high crediblity rate.They have no need to place false information on him just to crush him.
Further more you've been more rude than I.You,and only you,have for roughly 4 or so posts now commmented on my incorrect spelling.No one else has stated that my statement is incorrect because of my grammar.The possibility of your theory is so remote that to base a solid defence on such is foolish.Saying that the possiblity that is highly more likely wrong is also foolish.Your whole quote above is about you superior grammar.I nore anyother poster here should have to go through the post until every word and its useage is proper.I don't have to look up the statistics online to tell you the vast majority of peopel in the US don't use or write proper english.You just using it to mask the fact that the possiblity is not in your favor.In so many words you have insulted my intellegence just so you can feel that your ego isn't harmed.If your going to base someones ideas on the fact that "they're" not as intelligent as you please go elsewhere.
Ummm what?They made 10 multicolor enchantments.How is that avoiding makeing multicolor enchantments?
Anyhow.I would be nice to see how they do an enchantment block now.Back in Urzas white got the most enchantmanet interaction,blue and green got some and black and red got next to nill interaction.Lets just hope its not insane like Mirrodin block.
In court it will matter,not on this thread.Saying the the playtest cards are fake,with absolutelty no proof that their fake,and claiming some conspiracy theory is just ridiulous.
Your acting like R_E was a harmless butterfly that landed on Wizards shoulder.Then they crused him because they could.
The fact that they gave a C&D to Salvation,and are sueing a man for 90K+ leans more in the diredtion that the playtest cards are in fact real.Wizard obvioulsy saw R_E as a bee.They are allergic.And instead of getting stung,swatted it.Just because Wizards isn't being hurt in sales now doesn't mean they can't see hurt from future sales.
So put on your tin foil hat and take your "if the glove dosen't fit you must acquit" back to your bomb shelter.
Black and red with Encahntment destruction,i dont think so.
Please explain to me how paying 4BBBB and sacing four creatures to get -4/-4 is over powered compaired to paying 2BB and sacing two creatures to get the same effect?
Except for the fact that you'd still be losing land too.
IsoShatter anyone.Well the artifact part anyway.
And the black ability make on yours dosen't even fit the guild.Some how the suicidal anarchist guild truns into This minus the life gain?
A trade secret is information on possible products.Whether or not that information become a produce or not isn't really relevant if it's copyrighted.If it never sees the light of day it dosen't matter.Wizards copyright the information to cover their butts.
Thats laughable.Your claiming any one can make the playest stickers.If anyone can please go right ahead.Prove me wrong and print one them scan it.I'll even give you a good idea of what it should be.
Jiyor, the Jackass 0
Creature-Human Dufus
When you play <this>, you lose the game.
0/0
You show me a scan of a card with a sticker like that or similar (like the one wizards print),then i'll believe your theory.The only people who have those stickers are Wizards.
Your just trying to make it sound like some outrageous conspiracy theory.
Falsified information screws your case,it dosen't help.Why would a company go balls to the wall that this is true information when it wasn't?They stand to lose alot if the information was false.R_E would definatly countersue.R_E may not be able to 90K,but Hasbro could definetly pay the money he could ask for.Which would be a lot more than 90k
Ummmm What?Im sorry but thats just compleatly untrue.All i have to do is point out rumor season.During GP rumor season if i had put up Giant Solifuge as is,flavor text,card number and all,no one would have beleived me.I only had 50-60 posts at the time.I would've had insults flung at me like money poo.Though some would say their going to wait to see if R_E or another know poster to confirms it.If i had 500 post or so i would've gotten stuff like "that would be a cool card" or "is Wizards really gonna print that?",most people would might give it a 50/50.If i had a 1000 or more posts people would consider it truth.Unless it was compleatly ridiculous.
Though i do agree Millmaster came down kinda hard on the guy for only haveing one post.
Frighting 3BB
Enchantment (U)
When Frighting comes inot play, if R was spent to play Frighting, creature you control gain haste until end of turn.
Creatures you control have fear.
One them was a card that saw print in Onslaught.
Someone in a post (probably this one) pointed out the other was a playtest for mirage that never saw print but wizards showed us som years ago.
The third was an unknown card.
Weather or not it is real dosn't matter.The card could see print in the next block or never see print.It's a play test card so in actuality its not a real card at all.But Wizards are the ones who decide if we see such information.Someone signed an NDA to work at Wizards.They then sent him the information,he showed it publicly.He got into trouble.
MaRo and others have stated many time how a card got held in storage until they made it.Even if they don't make it it dosen't give players the right to see it.Coldsnap is an entrie set of playtest cards the eventually found a home for.Coldsnap is a set made of cards that keep getting shelved,for years.Mindslaver got shelved for about 2-3 years until they finally made it.
Just because we want to see playtest cards doesn't give us some devine birthright to do so.
And more to the point the unknown card is most likely a real card or will see print soon.
The read one is fine.It's either a repeatable Shatter with tempo loos or a repeatable Raze that cost 1 extra.
Keep reading the book.You'll find out why he's not going to be in Dissention.Though i agree i don't see Rakdos himself being the main foucs of the book.But who knows.