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  • posted a message on Gary Abuse via Flicker + Triad of Fates
    I think that black's reanimation engines (Corpse Dance,Chainer, Dementia Master, etc.) are substantially better than Triad of Fates at "flickering" creatures. Without a lot of untapping and/or ability copying, Triad of Fates is very slow to flicker anything at all. Probably the best reason to play them is their extremely cool flavor, so I wouldn't sweat it if the deck isn't necessarily comparable to Roon of the Hidden Realm

    There's definitely room for improvement, but it looks like you'd have more or less a good time playing this deck. Also, Arcane Sanctum, Crystal Shard, and Turn to Mist are not legal in a Triad of Fates deck because they all have blue in their color identity.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on King Macar - First Foray Into 2018 Commander
    Kaladesh block has a lot of goodies that synergize well with King Macar, the Gold-Cursed, namely artifacts with the vehicle subtype. Smuggler's Copter is pretty cheap now that it's banned in standard, but any vehicle that King Macar can crew by himself is a good option. I see you're already running Mobile Garrison. Marionette Master is like Disciple of the Vault on steroids.

    Cards I would consider cutting:
    Pain Seer - I'm kinda eyeballing it here, but your average CMC looks way too high to make running this dude a good idea. I'd hate to get domed for 9 to draw an uncastable Darksteel Forge on turn 4. Speaking of your average CMC, you've only got 32 lands, which is skimpy even for a low-curve deck. You've got multiple 7+ drops. King Macar generates mana, but not enough to warrant running so few lands. Aim for somewhere like 38-40 range or 37 if you lower the curve.

    Sly Requisitioner - This card looks like maybe it could fit into some sort of Krark-Clan Ironworks combo loop with Scrap Trawler and friends, but I don't see too many ways for your deck to proactively generate any significant quantity of servo tokens.

    Revel In Riches - This is a nonbo with King Macar exiling enemy creatures, and your deck doesn't look well-suited to take advantage of it.

    Tidy Conclusion - 5 mana is too much to spend on single-target spot removal, especially when your commander already offers repeatable creature removal.

    Tendrils of Corruption, Mutilate, Corrupt - Cut these or add more swamps. You won't have access to Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth every game.

    Cabal Stronghold - You need 4 basic swamps before you can net a single black mana off of this card. 5 before it starts being better than just a basic swamp. It doesn't interact with Urborg the way everyone wants it to.

    Gild - This card is just a 1-shot, sorcery speed version of what your commander already does. You don't need it at all.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on [[Primer]] Toshiro Umezawa
    Quote from ISBPathfinder »


    If you are swimming in triggers then adding more do nothing cantrip instants can work but I found that often the number of triggers I would get would vary a lot based upon my opponents playstyles as well as what decks they would play. For instance, you can play against a commander centric deck and you might see a lot less procs but then the next player might be ETB / Sac based and you get a bunch. I guess I would say that in general I would play with some and see how they go for you. If you seem to have a lot of wasted triggers then its not bad but I tended to see a lot of time where I would not get many triggers by just being in play with Toshiro and then out of nowhere a wrath would trigger a BUNCH of them which would also make it hard to have the mana to throw into little do nothing cantrips. I did run some like Cremate and Headstone but in a lot of cases the graveyard hate was more important to me and the fact that they draw was just the gravy on top to make them feel less situational as to when I wanted to see them.

    When it comes to sorcery speed one shot draw I would rather the two mana ones over 4-5 mana ones in part because this deck really is a draw / go style of deck and keeping mana up from turn to turn was important. Its better to pay less on your turn to keep more options up for later.


    I'd like to second this. When I ran a Toshiro list, I found that his triggers tended to happen in bursts, so mana is usually his biggest constraint, not cards. With that in mind, it's often better to cast one or two high-impact instants than it is to make sure you use every last trigger. Cheap sorcery-speed card draw will help you hit your land drops early so you have the mana to spend later once creatures start dying. Sign In Blood will net you the same number of cards as casting Aphotic Wisps twice, except you won't ever need to wait for a creature to die or spend a removal spell to get the second card off of Sign In Blood. You're going to want your non-removal instants for refilling your hand/GY, not as a DIY Think Twice.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on Jalira, Master Polymorphist - Nothing up my sleeve... presto!
    Here's some tech that I like for Jalira, Master Polymorphist

    Guardian Idol - Enables a turn 3 Jalira and a turn 4 polymorph by itself.
    Chronatog Totem - Not as good as Guardian Idol, but it's ramp that you can cash in for a polymorph later.
    Rings of Brighthearth - Doubles up on Jalira activations. Gets much better when you're running fetchlands.
    Mutavault, Inkmoth Nexus - Increases the likelihood that you draw a creature land by the time you're able to activate Jalira.
    Chamber of Manipulation - Steal your opponents' creatures, block with them, and then polymorph them into a Consecrated Sphinx or something.
    Myr Turbine - Very close to strictly better than Throne of Empires.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on WU Alt-Wincon.dec feat. Raff
    Phyrexian Processor is a card that gets better with flash and allows you to pay arbitrary amounts of life for Near-Death Experience
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Glissa, the Traitor - early midrange build, feedback welcome
    Quote from Chairwolf »

    The two serve different purposes. Baubles provide a lot of incremental value over time, while Memory Jar is a card I mostly play when I'm going off. If you're playing Memory Jar to simply refill your hand over and over, the resources that your opponents gain are going to outpace your own. That said, I love Memory Jar in my own build, but I mostly only use it when I believe I'm going to win and the cards my opponents draw won't matter.

    My opponents aren't actually drawing cards they'll get to use off of the jar though. I'm pretty much only ever cracking it on my turn when my opponents are tapped low. I also ran Lodestone Golem, Defense Grid, and a good number of other cards that restricted my opponents' ability to do anything at all. My Glissa build was pretty mean and ultimately too antisocial to exist for very long.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on Glissa, the Traitor - early midrange build, feedback welcome
    I used to run a Glissa deck, and my favorite thing to do was recur Memory Jar. It beats the hell out of bringing back baubles. Also, Forbidden Orchard is great at fixing your mana and generating easily disposable bodies against opponents that don't run very many creatures.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on Vona's Lifegain - Need Suggestions
    Just stopping by to offer some suggestions for Vona synergies.
    Magewright's Stone - 50% Cheaper to activate than Puppet Strings
    Maze of Ith - Just a good card, but also you can activate Maze of Ith’s ability targeting Vona during the end of combat step, after Vona has already dealt damage. You can then activate Vona in response to destroy a nonland permanent with Maze's ability on the stack. The end result is that you got to attack with Vona, activate her, and still have an untapped Vona to activate again or play defense.
    Reconnaissance - Works the same way as the Maze of Ith trick.
    Rings of Brighthearth - Double up on activations without paying 7 life the second time around.
    Thousand-Year Elixir - Also an upgrade on Puppet Strings. Guarantees that you can get at least one activation out of Vona if she resolves.

    I'd also look into ways to grant Vona double strike.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on Rona, Disciple of Gix (Let's Brew!)
    I think the best way to build Rona is to behave as if her activated ability does not exist, because it's pretty terrible and like 99% of the times you use it will be if you have literally nothing else to do. Paying 4 mana to sort-of half draw a card (she doesn't let you play the lands she exiles) in U/B is ludicrous. I think her ability to just be a Snapcaster Mage for artifacts and synergistic legendary cards (Oath of Jace, for instance) is where she can be made to shine. I'd start with a control shell, keeping artifacts, incidental self-mill, and looting in mind.
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on The Mall of Muldrotha
    Quote from Socat »
    The Food Chain package is just to close out the game with an infinitely large Torment of Hailfire, Exsanguinate or Villainous Wealth.

    Ah. Food Chain mana can only be used to cast creature spells though.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on The Mall of Muldrotha
    What's the Food Chain package for?
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on Buff the Vampire n Play-her
    Quote from Rasputin101 »

    Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it.

    No prob. I hope you have some fun games.
    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on Shrouded Lore (2018 Edition)
    Quote from Lithl »
    Quote from Oracletext »
    a critical mass of ways to arbitrarily remove large swaths of cards from your graveyard, (Watchers of the Dead perhaps?)
    Well, Watchers only affects opponents, so... :p


    Aw dang. Reading is hard. Brb dusting off my copy of Grave Consequences
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
  • posted a message on Buff the Vampire n Play-her
    Quote from Rasputin101 »

    2: Aura's and equipment don't work on Elenda. She dies, you lose everything. And in a deck where you want her to die that can be a problem.


    Equipment is actually fine on Elenda. For example, if she dies wearing a Nightmare Lash, you will get at least 1 vampire for each Swamp you control. This is because the game will use the last known info about her, which is that she had equipment/aura buffing her power. Nim Deathmantle is also very good alongside Elenda. Though, if you're gonna include Deathmantle, you should probably remove Ashnod's Altar if you're trying to avoid infinite combos. You should probably remove it anyway since it is notorious for enabling degenerate nonsense.

    Quote from Rasputin101 »

    I am having a few problems when playtesting at the moment. She's a bit clunky.
    White and black don't have the ramp power of green or the draw power of blue so I'm not getting permanents on the field fast enough.
    Some of my card choices need to be streamlined out.
    Anyone got any thoughts for what might work well in this build baring in mind I can't go infinite and I'm trying to avoid a good stuff deck?

    Cards I'd look to cut:
    Bad Moon - Doesn't pump Elenda's vampires. They're monowhite.
    Cradle of Vitality - It's too slow for what it does, which is put some +1/+1 counters on Elenda for 4WW. It also requires you to have gained some amount of life which is by no means a guarantee. At the same CMC you could just have the substantially more powerful and on-theme Necropolis Regent.
    Seal of Doom - You don't actually have any enchantment payoffs and 3 mana is too expensive for spot removal in Commander anyway.
    Valor In Akros - This would be good if you could give your tokens haste for a precombat Elenda sacrifice into massive amounts of damage, but Orzhov doesn't really do that.
    Vampirism - I guess this is a theme card? It's just incredibly bad.

    Bone Splinters - Sorcery speed is not what you want for your spot removal or your sac outlets. Maybe try Vicious Offering
    Call to the Feast - This is usually worse at making tokens than your commander. I wouldn't bother with it, since you'll be wanting to cast your commander on turn 4 instead of this.
    Dusk Legion Zealot - This dude is straight-up air.
    Caged Sun - This is only good in mono-colored decks. Play Obelisk of Urd instead if you want the buff.
    Dolmen Gate - This effect alone is not worth a card slot.

    Cards I'd find room for:
    Skullclamp - Somewhat of a non-bo with the anthem theme, but you have enough sac outlets that this should basically always be {1}: Draw two cards.
    Unspeakable Symbol - Both Elenda and her tokens have lifelink, so you can really get a lot of work done with this card, I think. Let each separate activation resolve before activating again so you don't get blown out by removal.
    Hatred - Aside from randomly demolishing people by producing a lot of commander damage out of nowhere and then gaining all the life back, you can use this to make a lot of (lifelink!) tokens if Elenda is about to die.
    Dawn of the Dead - Bringing back Elenda every turn is sweet, just remember to sacrifice her to something before the exile trigger resolves.

    Posted in: Multiplayer Commander Decklists
  • posted a message on Let's Break Garna, the Bloodflame
    Quote from prester_john »
    Can't believe nobody's mentioned Skirge Familiar yet.

    It's in the OP, hover over "Discard Outlets."
    Posted in: Commander (EDH)
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