How is one 5/5 better then multiple 4/4's? I think that covers my thoughts on that.
Played a few games. Daxos's Torment hits and has haste. Say turn 4 you drop Sigil. Turn 5 you drop an enchantment. Turn 6 you swing. Daxoss has already swung for 15. It's not an "is it better" but it is a clock they have to deal with. It's also something they can't "Powder Keg" for 0.
Thoughts on Daxos's Torment. I'm toying with a heavier Black build using this guy and a couple Grim Guardian along with Doomwake Giant. This allows me Abrupt Decay in the SB too. Still messing around with the mana base though. So far I'm replacing Sterling Grove with these 4 cards.
Mogis, God of Slaughter being the same cmc as The Abyss but being one sided and a shock bonus seems fine. I don't own City of Traitors so I'm not play-testing with it. I am looking for a way to get Mogis a creature for a 7pt swing but not sure what.
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after 12~ games:
-1 mountain
+1 swamp
need to find room for at least 2 Liliana of the Veil.
Is the official oracle text tap to add {B} or "black" mana? If it doesn't say "black" Mind Bend doesn't work. Is does not change any text not in the text box of the card.
I played this a few times and it was fun. I used Esper Sojourners to forcefully tap down lands and Frost Titan as the threat.
Necra Sanctuary is pretty dumb vs. aggro. You stall and wait until they die.
EDIT: + 2 Virtues Ruin +1 Tsabo's Web. Rishadan Port is a little b* and Death and Taxes is too much a 50/50
After 10 games, pretty sure Words of Wilding is needed to keep from decking. Eidolon of Blossoms is cool and all but it triggers from Replenish and that killed me one game.
Edit 2: Words of Worship is better.
Edit 3: PandaBurst! GWb Enchantress + Entomb
Edit 4: yeah. no pandaburst with this build. //fail
TLDR: Why do some people get so into it when an in-game situation doesn't turn out the way they want it to?
People want to win.
Problem comes from people thinking they should win. They see competitive players winning all this cool stuff and making money. So you opp spends money, plays a lot and believes they can be that pro too. Sorry. Doesn't work that way. Make a fantasy MTG league and they can arm chair it just like every other 'sport' and they can gripe then.
This doesn't work at all. You pay a life to draw a card, you pay a life to make a mana, and then use the mana to gain 2 life instead of drawing. You paid 2 life to gain 2 life, there is no net gain in cards or life. This combo literally does nothing. Also Yawgmoth's Bargain has been banned since the dawn of EDH.
Like jakalova said, WoW gets 5 per, so yep, works just fine.
And, When I say 5 player free for all. This is type 1 multi-player. Some long time before EDH was a thing.
Other was:
Elves, Living Plane, Cradle in to Defense of the Heart. Next Turn pop Defense, get Spirit of the Night and Ascendant Evincar. Kill all lands permanently and swing with a 7/6 Flying, Trample, First-strike, Haster. 1 Player scooped. The other 2 didn't realize they couldn't play lands.
Crazy stuff into Academy Rector -> Diabolic Intent -> Yawgmoth's Bargain -> Words of Worship -> Channel -> infinite life + draw the deck -> Glacial Chasm -> Hurricane for a million. turn 2. I think it was a 5 player free-for-all.
Didn't have much time to play with this yet. Only played vs. Mono-U Draw Go w/ Misthollow Griffin and JtMS. Lands seem fine. In all the games I never drew a Bloom so I have no idea what it could have been. Pretty sure -2 Inquisition +2 Meditate and adding a Demonfire might be good for anti-Surgical stuff. Probe seems fine right now but with an extra R win-con, might drop one. Then again, Consume Spirit might be better to counter act Contract and Bargain if you need to drain something to stay alive.
Sideboard is hard as it's an all in combo. City Of Solitude is probably a 4 of.
try the "Text Spoiler" option.
Not perfect but works for what you're asking.
Cross referencing this here.
Played a few games. Daxos's Torment hits and has haste. Say turn 4 you drop Sigil. Turn 5 you drop an enchantment. Turn 6 you swing. Daxoss has already swung for 15. It's not an "is it better" but it is a clock they have to deal with. It's also something they can't "Powder Keg" for 0.
4 Argothian Enchantress
1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Sorcery
3 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Replenish
Enchantment
2 Oblivion Ring
1 Banishing Light
4 Enchantress's Presence
4 Utopia Sprawl
4 Wild Growth
1 Sphere of Safety
4 Sterling Grove
1 Aura of Silence
3 Solitary Confinement
1 Words of War
1 Sigil of the Empty Throne
3 Elephant Grass
1 Ground Seal
1 Enlightened Tutor
Land
3 Serra's Sanctum
4 Windswept Heath
1 Dryad Arbor
1 Karakas
2 Savannah
7 Forest
1 Plains
1 Taiga
4 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Choke
1 Replenish
1 City of Solitude
1 Helm of Obedience
2 Rest in Peace
1 Moat
1 Seal of Primordium
4 Bloodghast
3 Braids, Cabal Minion
2 Mogis, God of Slaughter
Lands
3 Badlands
4 Swamp
4 Wasteland
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
3 Mishra's Factory
4 Ancient Tomb
1 Mountain
1 Rishadan Port
4 Bloodstained Mire
2 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
4 Trinisphere
2 Crucible of Worlds
1 Smokestack
4 Sphere of Resistance
4 Mox Diamond
Enchantment
1 Nether Void
Sorcery
4 Smallpox
4 Sinkhole
Mogis, God of Slaughter being the same cmc as The Abyss but being one sided and a shock bonus seems fine. I don't own City of Traitors so I'm not play-testing with it. I am looking for a way to get Mogis a creature for a 7pt swing but not sure what.
edit
after 12~ games:
-1 mountain
+1 swamp
need to find room for at least 2 Liliana of the Veil.
-1 Smallpox
-1 Trinisphere
+2 Liliana of the veil
Do you want to be in the top 4?
I played this a few times and it was fun. I used Esper Sojourners to forcefully tap down lands and Frost Titan as the threat.
Can you elaborate on that?
4 Argothian Enchantress
1 Heliod, God of the Sun
4 Enchantress's Presence
4 Wild Growth
4 Utopia Sprawl
1 Sigil of the Empty Throne
1 Solitary Confinement
4 Sterling Grove
1 Blind Obedience
1 Sphere of Safety
3 Elephant Grass
1 Necra Sanctuary
2 Crop Rotation
2 Replenish
2 Serra's Sanctum
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Swamp
2 Verdant Catacombs
3 Windswept Heath
3 Savannah
1 Bayou
5 Forest
3 Plains
1 Aegis of the Gods
3 Solitary Confinement
1 Aegis of Honor
4 Leyline of Sanctity
1 Blind Obedience
2 Rest in Peace
1 Helm of Obedience
1 The Abyss
1 Oblivion Ring
Testing out Grim Guardian. So far so stupid.
Necra Sanctuary is pretty dumb vs. aggro. You stall and wait until they die.
EDIT: + 2 Virtues Ruin +1 Tsabo's Web. Rishadan Port is a little b* and Death and Taxes is too much a 50/50
After 10 games, pretty sure Words of Wilding is needed to keep from decking. Eidolon of Blossoms is cool and all but it triggers from Replenish and that killed me one game.
Edit 2: Words of Worship is better.
Edit 3: PandaBurst! GWb Enchantress + Entomb
Edit 4: yeah. no pandaburst with this build. //fail
People want to win.
Problem comes from people thinking they should win. They see competitive players winning all this cool stuff and making money. So you opp spends money, plays a lot and believes they can be that pro too. Sorry. Doesn't work that way. Make a fantasy MTG league and they can arm chair it just like every other 'sport' and they can gripe then.
Like jakalova said, WoW gets 5 per, so yep, works just fine.
And, When I say 5 player free for all. This is type 1 multi-player. Some long time before EDH was a thing.
Other was:
Elves, Living Plane, Cradle in to Defense of the Heart. Next Turn pop Defense, get Spirit of the Night and Ascendant Evincar. Kill all lands permanently and swing with a 7/6 Flying, Trample, First-strike, Haster. 1 Player scooped. The other 2 didn't realize they couldn't play lands.
3 Infernal Contract
3 Gitaxian Probe
4 Dark Ritual
4 Thoughtseize
2 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Squandered Resources
4 Cadaverous Bloom
4 Natural Balance
4 Lotus Petal
4 Elvish Spirit Guide
1 Simian Spirit Guide
1 Banefire
7 Swamp
7 Forest
Didn't have much time to play with this yet. Only played vs. Mono-U Draw Go w/ Misthollow Griffin and JtMS. Lands seem fine. In all the games I never drew a Bloom so I have no idea what it could have been. Pretty sure -2 Inquisition +2 Meditate and adding a Demonfire might be good for anti-Surgical stuff. Probe seems fine right now but with an extra R win-con, might drop one. Then again, Consume Spirit might be better to counter act Contract and Bargain if you need to drain something to stay alive.
Sideboard is hard as it's an all in combo. City Of Solitude is probably a 4 of.