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  • posted a message on Fall 2016 EDH/Commander Banned List - No Changes
    Quote from Technomagus »
    With the whole stance of "These are the rules we've laid out for the format. If you don't agree with any of them, you are free to modify them with your playgroup." All this does is enforce incompatibility with different playgroups.

    Suppose you have Playgroup A, a relatively low-power, more casual-oriented group, that's fed up with Dead-Eye Navigator, so they decide to ban it. Then you have Playgroup B, a highly tuned playgroup that feel Primeval Titan is not the most powerful thing that can be done at 6 mana, so they unban it. Then there's Playgroup C, that views the text on MTGCommander.com as immutable holy scripture (yes, I am being hyperbolic here intentionally). What happens, then, if a member of Playgroup A meets a player from Playgroup B and Playgroup C, and they decide to play a "friendly" game with their decks, and none of them have informed the others about their playgroups' house rules? Let's not even get started on playgroups that allow off-color Hybrids trying to play outside their normal playgroup. What about those who don't agree with the Tuck rule?


    Let's just go with the obvious: You build different decks.

    As of November there will be officially 32 different color combinations in Magic for Generals. There is a wide variety of deck types and accessible game modes to play within that variance to build more than one Commander deck. This is why I always tell people, always. Build 2 decks for each format you play with any regularity, it avoids power level and metagame shift issues.

    You have no idea how many times I've seen the power play discrepencies as well as players on this very forum after a ban be very angry that their one and only deck got banned or hated out. This is the gift of foresight and compromise. There are also times with flexibility, such as "oh you're playing a banned card" and people just say "we'll house rule that card as uh Counterspell tonight." It's not a big deal.

    The bigger deal is whenever the attitude of the single player is at the forefront. I remember during Amulet Bloom one person was hardcore against, was a younger person with little money and saw their deck devalued over night. Perfectly legitimate, only liked playing Amulet Bloom for whatever reason which limited flexibility to play other decks such as Ad Nauseum and other similar combo decks from winnings.

    But let's also be honest. The entry level for this format is really low. Next to pauper low, and mostly the first "real format" new players enter or at least try rather quickly. I mostly advise younger players to go into this format if they like battlecruiser Magic to start with and then branch off to Modern as Standard cards are reprinted in good order to build specific decks.

    This sort of thing is educating young players about their options and long term affordability and the social problems they can face and to understand that there are different types of players. This is an imperative to us the people who indoctrinate new players. Inclusiveness yes, but also being realistic about challenges and affordability.

    Which is why no matter the person. No matter the entire thing. People generally start with casual then move into Standard and/or Elder Dragon Highlander followed by Modern and Cube as the collection grows. There's a transition stage going from Standard to Modern, depending on income and temperament for formats if playing competitive. Most Cube players typically have at least 3-4 years playing and active collecting under their belt.

    You need to educate your players around you.



    Quote from dLANCER »
    If I wanted to host a seriosu compettion for EDH multiplayer, not that 100card singleton vintage 1on1 crap, where are the rules for deciding a winner, is it always last man standing, what about going to time? The Rules Committee fails here.


    This is where people who are wanton game designers can design new subroutines for the game. While I respect your opinion, I disagree with it immensely. There are enough primers on Commander to write wholesale books on the subject.

    What the RC want is basically "Here's the source code, it's all Open Source have fun :)" it's up to us to "program" that open source program into what we need and want. Tiny Leaders, 1v1 and French Commander born out of something that started at a kitchen table is fairly good.

    For competitive, my group on occassion usde a point system. Defeat a player get a point. Then go from there. There are several available via Google for ideas. This is about leadership as a player, it is up to ourselves to provide that leadership. If you crowdsourced a project to create a "viable rules set" for "competitive Commander" there are players that will contribute easily their opinion and experiences.

    The fancy term here are thought leader. And believe me, people do not like to start things they will certainly follow and then if there is success criticize you while also looking at you as being a genius.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Commander 2016 Foils
    Frankly the only thing I really want out of this set are interesting commanders that will last the next few years until they decide to go with four colors again. The only character I want is Urza as a Commander to finalize the mini cycle started with Mishra. I'd hope for Mishra 2.0 and Urza so that way we can finally see a Brother's War really take place.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Should we be doing all we can to extend a person's life?
    I remember walking into one of those elderly homes, there was a woman who cried "Help me, help me" and yet was conversant and "with it." However, the issue I had was quite simple.

    Why wasn't she reading a book?

    Why wasn't she learning how to use a computer?

    Television, card games, and ect.

    Instead sitting in the middle of a hallway looking at the wall. It was quite deleterious that she was reduced to the status of a child, but I feel that the quantum problem that we have in society is simple. Our of life stage planning sucks. Our system is basically broke for people over 18 years old trying to transition into the work force and for people going into retirement. Those two areas are probably one of the slickest and most dangerous periods of any person's life when it comes life planning. The society isn't constructed to really deal well with the situation.

    Individualism versus colletivism.
    Posted in: Debate
  • posted a message on Should I write about MTG for my college application essay?
    First off, I wouldn't bother with a four year university unless if people are offering you scholarships and grants that pay for the bulk of the education. If you are paying out of pocket, then community college and finally transferring to the better college.

    With that said, there's a few points. Look at sports essays done as examples that exemplify team players, leadership, focus, design and so forth. Then if you engage a lot with teaching other players, that is a form of coaching. If you relate the social aspects of sports like leadership, training, discipline, and so forth that can assist. However, if you have designed say your own formats for Magic and the like that is a different skill. That is basically game design which is design using math and other forms of your own mind.

    If you do anything like mod packs and the like for games, and are applying to a technical college then I would aim to reference structured design.

    It really depends on your audience and what schools you're talking about. Most want the super student, you know the person with a point and the sports scholarships.

    If you're a judge, heavily involved with a comic book shop as a worker, and so forth then that is more of the trade and business end of the deal. Being a "normal player" without a following and the like or going out of your way to design new formats that you play with your friends. I'm not really seeing anything strong out of it.
    Posted in: Real-Life Advice
  • posted a message on Will Chandra become evil?
    Chandra is Doug Beyer's favorite character. She is also within the top five planeswalkers, what she has lacked is a specific card that shows up as a tournament identity in Modern. Jace, Liliana, and Gideon all have cards that play well in Modern and are staples or banned. Chandra was the face of one Core Set and this is "her block" and gives us a good backstory and adds to her lore. She won't turn evil, but rather show change and growth as a character.

    I feel that Chandra would probably be a better face for the game than Jace. It's mostly the mechanics of red itself that limited Chandra than Chandra herself as a character.

    She will age as a character, mature, in her own fashion. But never truly grow old.
    Posted in: Speculation
  • posted a message on Kaladesh: Worst Set Since Homelands, or Worst Set Ever?
    It drafts well and has great art and flavor. It doesn't really add anything truly new to the game, it takes a few aspects and does them very well. This is a limited, cube, commander, and standard set. I just don't see the necessary power level that Khans added to really make for huge innovations and dramatic shifts with new deck types like Grixis.

    What I dislike right now is probably the lack of Modern staples within the set and which is more of a power level problem with commons in general. It's basically adding no new archetype to the game. It adds to pre-existing archetype and gives red it's Jace the Mindscuptor after all these years.

    It will modify and add to current archetypes in Modern, not create any new ones. Perhaps after Eldrazi Winter this is what people truly want anyway.
    Posted in: New Card Discussion
  • posted a message on Mothership - Full set
    Quote from Empathogen »
    Quote from Guesswork »
    People need to take another look at Deadlock Trap. Card is good. Probably the most efficient, versatile outlet for energy in the whole set. That thing is going to win games.


    It's alright.
    It's kind of like a different take on Tumble Magnet.
    As a Rare that comes in tapped, it's a bit boring,
    but there could be uses for it.

    I do like that it taps Planeswalkers for no apparent reason.


    Quiet speculation would be a card in this block or another set that turns planeswalkers into creatures with power and toughness equal to mana cost or loyalty.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on U.S. Legal System: How is this just?
    Quote from Jusstice »
    [quote][quote from="Magicman657 »" url="http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/community-forums/debate/753856-u-s-legal-system-how-is-this-just?comment=20"]
    There is no cap on the number of lawyers. Care to explain?

    There are private law schools all over, federal student aid, and unless it's different in some states, anyone with a law degree can sit for a state bar exam. Meanwhile, not even in the worse off states like California has the Bar Examining Committee artificially adjusted standards to limit entry into the field. Examinees continue to succeed or fail on the test based on their unadjusted performance.





    https://www.c-span.org/video/?314655-1/public-defenders-program-budget-cuts

    I like CSPAN.
    Posted in: Debate
  • posted a message on U.S. Legal System: How is this just?
    Quote from Jusstice »
    [quote from="Frostdragon4 »" url="http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/community-forums/debate/753856-u-s-legal-system-how-is-this-just?comment=13"]
    1. When have you ever come across campaign ads for a Judge, or even a DA? The average cable news watching voter doesn't care at all about these offices, or even understand what they do. The only factor I see that could possibly weigh in here is whether they’re putting either a (D) or an (R) next to their name on the ballot, or leaving it off. With party affiliation, it only shifts the power of appointment from the executive (as it would be where the office it not elected) to the partisan machinery of the primary process. Without party affiliation, the vote is essentially blind.

    2. As above, huh??? The US justice system compels the State to appoint a Public Defender for all criminal charges. And any economic factors that might be driving up the costs for legal services would only serve to raise the minimum standards for the profession, which are already the highest in the developed world.

    3. I’ll grant that there is some intersection between the public health system and the justice system, but what’s the alternative? Besides, most people believe the opposite, that standards for “insanity defenses” are still too low.



    Bwahahahaha, because public defenders suck at the state level. They used to be good at the federal level, until cut back started.

    Debt is evil. It binds you, it's not an "incentive." It's more like, "I'm going to smack your butt with a paddle if you don't clean the dishes." Whereas more lawyers are motivated by "I got to help someone out!" or "This case is extremely complex, and I can use my analytical ability to think through all this paper work." Don't confuse disincentives with incentives. IF a person wasn't going to enter a field, they would have done so.

    There's a demand for lawyers to fight local cases, and there's a demand for public defenders. What you seem to neglect is that I want more of a free market for young lawyers to prove themselves without having to be burdened by unnecessary debt.

    70k'year in Canada is pretty good living.

    You know what? Who I am to judge how much debt someone should have for an education? What really makes me feel special to say what people should pay for college.

    Here's the thing. Lawyers are necessary to transmute legalistic garbage into practical results. Period.

    Doctors being heavily encumbered by debt, makes then incentivized towards making money. Then we get more boob and vagina repair specialists than GP's.

    Chasing money and raising the price of an attorney pr doctor fee per hour is ludicrous.

    So we tried high debt with high education, created an education bubble. Let's go back to what works, capitalism without all the socialism. Low debt margins increases individual wealth, which then opens up people to spend more money to create other jobs.

    We're using a "Sith mentality" for a "Jedi problem." Which means "greed" isn't the largest motivating factor here.

    Debt is the problem, it creates fear and panic. The good side of self interest, that is the acquisitive towards resources to protect oneself against, well, poverty is natural to man.

    Instead I see student debt like a gambling addiction. "Skin in the game" means nothing to me.

    If the person is a fully actualized person by the time they graduate high school, then they will naturally want to be independent. "Giving" someone a discounted education is called grace and even then law degrees are overpriced and overpromised for results. This has been a continuing trend with colleges.

    Society is already waking up to the college lie, parents are having children focus on STEM degrees.

    But this is also a problem with Human Resources. No nontransferable skills, you must have the exact degree. Overqualified for an entry level job, blah blah.

    The whole system is rigged.

    Maybe it's time we stopped worrying about the students and looked at the employers and saying. "Hey the kids' got a law degree, might be worth hiring her for something above lettuce chopper."

    The system is borked. Period. Defending it in its totality is confusion. There are fewer business being created by young people as compared to other depressions and recessions. That's because of the debt problem.

    The issue with the legal field, is mostly that there's a cap on lawyers to limit the amount of lawyers so it does not bring down the average wage of a lawyer. If you saturate a market, wages go down. So there is protection being had at by holding back young lawyers with a paddle rather than freeing them to persue their trade.
    Posted in: Debate
  • posted a message on Chandra's card will be called Chandra, Torch of Defiance
    The best red planeswalker ever printed. This is the first Chandra where I've actually wanted copies of her.
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on Mothership spoilers 9/5 - PIA NALAAR, Tezzeret hint!
    So if something happen to Pia, we can assume that Chandra will reach the legendary status of Super Planeswalker?
    Posted in: The Rumor Mill
  • posted a message on U.S. Legal System: How is this just?
    Quote from Frostdragon4 »
    It starts with the high price of lawyers, which connects back into the overpriced nature of law school. It costs $60k for a doctorate in economics, it costs $150k for a law degree. The risk/rewards to being a lawyer are skewed that there's a lot of high competition for high salary starting jobs, but the debt is what gets you. That and the BAR exam is also a problem. There is a need for skilled lawyers at every level, but by using chaining each new lawyer with debt it increases the need to find high paying jobs to pay off high debt.

    If young lawyers were able to graduate with no to little debt, we would see more private practices open up. Young lawyers doing the DUI's and speeding tickets, then moving up to be prosecutors and defense attorneys in large cases. That is the system, but I would fathom that as lawyers would go up and down the pike. For instance a lawyer who was raising 2 children would perhaps not want to work for a high end law firm and just do some small cases to bring in money and maintain work experience until their children were older. On and off ramps for careers, and not encumbering people with debt.

    It's mostly the pipeline into the work environment that is the problem for young people, as well as the off ramps for people with children to come back to the work force. Fix those aspects of the working world, and you open a world of difference.

    I understand what your saying and I think that's an issue too, but that in and of itself does not explain why a system that seems geared for getting convictions through plea bargains is just?


    I get charged with a crime, if I can afford a lawyer and fight the charge it forces an economic decision. If a DA knows that a person is able to get "good defense" they will be more likely to go through the case through an investigation rather than charge shenanigans.

    There is another thing we're not talking about. Voting versus appointed DA's. Nifong from the Duke Lacrosse rape scandal was elected. Prosecution out of the "get tough on crime" approach from the 1970's and 80's was the crack epidemic. So conservatives latched onto the idea of get tough on crime, which they wanted more quantifiable aspects. Conviction rates were a part of this for getting tough on crime and sending people to jail as a way to remove evil from society.

    As we know today, high incarceration rates mean little if recitivism rates are high. Then there is the issue of mercy bookings and the mentally ill. The prison system is the largest mental health provider in the nation. Nifong himself is the poster child of why you don't want elected DA's, because he needed to look good in front of the electorate.

    So we are dealing with 3 separate issues:

    1. Elections of judges and DA's basing their success rate on convictions
    2. Expensive lawyers
    3. Inability for society to deal with the mentally ill

    From there we do the legitimate people who do belong in jail at least for a time and then transitioning those people back into society. We do have some statistics, such as men over the age of 27 are less likely to go back and engage in violent crimes. There are some areas of data we can deal with and readily work with.

    You need to take each issue one at a time.

    Posted in: Debate
  • posted a message on libertarianism.
    Quote from Ljoss »
    Quote from dox »
    Quote from MTGTCG »
    Most libertarians believe that taxation should be used to fund whatever protects our rights. This includes law enforcement, courts, and the military. Some libertarians believe in anarcho-capitalism.

    If there was no taxation, would your money be going to the exact places that the taxation was sending it in the exact amounts? Not for most people, so taxation is theft.
    Your conclusion does not logically follow your setup there... Your tax dollars go to fund things that the market does not provide for that you do benefit from so taxation it is not theft.


    Let's start with the latter justification. If you take someone's car in the middle of the night without their permission but leave behind a bag containing ten times its value in cash, have you still stolen from that person?





    War is the natural state of mankind, it is far easier to be immoral and take from another. This rejects the non aggression principal as the inherent nature of mankind is deceptive.

    Tax is taken from the individual to benefit the whole, where there are set norms and expectations in place through institutions.

    Theft is taken from an individual through force and unscrupulous means often for the benefit of an individual or a thin sliver of a group.

    Tax is justified through the collective benefit by everyone being taxed to provide for the benefits they consume.

    Theft has no mechanisms in place. There is no authority, there is no trust built. No rules of engagement. It's complete anarchy.

    Theft is selfishness.
    Tax is authoritarian.

    Thus far in human society to maintain an advanced post industrial society, it requires authoritarianism and taxes. Simply stated it cannot be done, because of the cost benefit analysis in people being to employ resources outside of basic survival. Freedom is created through negative and positive freedoms. Cost benefit analysis.

    Taxing is the easiest way to ensure protection of the group, and malcontents are locked away and property taken. That is the glory of authoritarianism, and why individuals get steam rolled.

    With that said, we can take into context a social contract, but we know that is nothing more philosophical justification. People are just lazy and want to be left alone to do as they please without working too hard. That's why people tolerate taxes and why they won't go away any time soon. Because the work to have a taxless society isn't able to come to fruition.
    Posted in: Debate
  • posted a message on U.S. Legal System: How is this just?
    It starts with the high price of lawyers, which connects back into the overpriced nature of law school. It costs $60k for a doctorate in economics, it costs $150k for a law degree. The risk/rewards to being a lawyer are skewed that there's a lot of high competition for high salary starting jobs, but the debt is what gets you. That and the BAR exam is also a problem. There is a need for skilled lawyers at every level, but by using chaining each new lawyer with debt it increases the need to find high paying jobs to pay off high debt.

    If young lawyers were able to graduate with no to little debt, we would see more private practices open up. Young lawyers doing the DUI's and speeding tickets, then moving up to be prosecutors and defense attorneys in large cases. That is the system, but I would fathom that as lawyers would go up and down the pike. For instance a lawyer who was raising 2 children would perhaps not want to work for a high end law firm and just do some small cases to bring in money and maintain work experience until their children were older. On and off ramps for careers, and not encumbering people with debt.

    It's mostly the pipeline into the work environment that is the problem for young people, as well as the off ramps for people with children to come back to the work force. Fix those aspects of the working world, and you open a world of difference.
    Posted in: Debate
  • posted a message on Amonkhet General Discussion
    Is this set still problematic with regards to cultural appropriation if Mark Rosewater comes from a culture that frequently interacted with the ancient Egyptians? What about the differences in culture between the people currently inhabiting Egypt and the modern ones?


    Most people don't care.

    The cultural appropriation only come whenever Selena Gomez wears Bollywood attire or Cher, of Armenian descent, wore Amerindian garb. Even then, the logic is flaccid because it is a part of artistic expression which heralds into aesthetics, what is art, and so forth.

    Then there's the problem with the Red Skins football team, which is a legitimate complaint.

    The other thing really here is that we need to look at something outside of our own culture. Japan. Japanese loved Kawigama, because it took an American company using Japanese lore to build a Japanese world with a game that is popular inside of Japan. Had Kawigama been designed better, we would have seen a return to Kawigama by now, but I digress.

    Egypt has been used in media for decades, the ancient Egyptians don't exist to have any complaints. We have also had Arabian Nights as an expansion to the game, and thus far I have yet to really hear from any players who happen to be Muslim complain about Army of Allah or the fact that one of the most powerful planeswalkers in Magic is Arab and his name was Taysir.

    http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Taysir

    Now, modernly Magic would not even touch anything to do with Islam or any real world counterparts. However, we can surmise simply that Taysir is an Arab and probably more than likely a Muslim that also happens to have been the most powerful or second to most powerful planeswalker in Magic next to Urza and Bolas.

    So in short, Muslims seem okay with Magic because Magic has historically been rather respectful to source material.

    Ancient Egyptians don't exist, but modernly whenever we do see ancient Egypt in modern culture everyone exploits it to their own artistic ends. Including people from modern Egypt.

    And this is why respecting foreign cultures is great, but you can't appease everyone and that is why keeping diversity on the table and ironing out a few cross cultural problems when you approach them. This is similar to the issue that Japan has with the Swastika, that to their own culture the same symbol is seen as good luck to everyone else in the world it's Nazism. So homegrown they use the symbol, everywhere else it's either tucked away and not noticed or they edit it out.

    Simplicity at it's finest. When you make a mistake, you own up to it and move on. Taysir isn't used, because he's dead. So they're able to dodge the issue of Taysir is a Muslim wizard problem as well as other issues of the past. And besides, we already saw Khans of Tarkir take on aspects of cultures who are Islamic. Abzan in short is the Ottoman Empire, and there hasn't been any real issue with Turks complaining about Abzan. Nor has there been any problem with Greeks complaining about Theros.

    I feel it's safe to say right now, with the current formula. Magic isn't going to get hit with cultural appropriation. Even in the same way, we see so far that Kaladesh is steam punk merged with India. And frankly, there's been no large scale complaints. These people are rather conservative and are trying to develop their own products and worlds to protect their trademarks and branding purposes and expand the branch while being inclusive rather than exclusive.

    So in short, they learned from Arabian Nights in both the good way that to be respectful of other cultures but also that you can't be scared of not using something by just being as original as you can while being faithful and respectful to the source materials.

    In short, if we take Kaladesh as an example I would not hesitate that someone who is Indian would look at it as something cool. The same with people that are descended from ancient Egyptians. Just like I'm certain that many Greek Americans look at Theros, it's cool but it doesn't define their culture it just reflects it in a healthy manner.
    Posted in: Magic Storyline
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