What about Sarra's Plane. I was comparing the art from Sarra's sanctum and it seams similar. Maybe the treasure is Karn and they resurrect that plane when they find him. It would make a cool storyline. It would also be cool to finnally see the Karn Planeswalker speculation finally realized. I always thought it would be cool if Woc made a set solely on that plane.
Manaburn was kind of silly to begin with in my opinion. I mean the land is already useless after it's tapped and not used...and you lose life too. Just doesnt really make sense to keep it around. Maybe if there were cards to force mana burn....but that would be too abusive....so losing mana burn I dont think will make any real difference....people will shrug and be like..."whatever...let's play"
'Cards that force mana burn'... I seam to remember a card called 'mana web'. Oh please can't they reprint that. awwwwwwwwwwww... as of 04/01/2008 Officially It doesn't cause mana burn...so sad.
Hiya explosion. This is my third day ever using a public forum. Nice to see such a welcom. anyway I'm passionate about this. I thought that was partly what these forums are about. I noticed a problem that seams to occure in 100% of the shops I've tried and I doin't know how interconnected these sites are. I've only seen 2 people from several sites commenting on both. If you don't like seeing the post simply don't post back. I'm not spamming the post, theres only one running post on each place I posted it. And I've followed everyones code of condut. Strangly enough I'm also pro free speach so I'm ok with anyone posting there responses in a civil manner. Oh and by the way this is my main and only account.
The author of this essay seems to miss his own point. By referring to women as "angels" and "the fairer sex," he puts them on a pedestal. By "othering" women and making them something to be worshiped or respected for their gender rather than their personality, he works at crossed purposes.
By the way, if this were a paper for an actual class, it'd be a failing grade. You start with a long paragraph that doesn't even touch on the point that you wish to make. It's wonderful that the US has a new president, but even on Inauguration Day, there's no need to evoke him on a post about discrimination against women in Magic.
"Wow I didn't know I was being graded on this. An english teacher did proof read this for me. She would of faild me if I was in her class, not due to content, but on grammer. Thanks for your concern though. I was trying to reflect the style of Lincoln's address. I was also trying to be very polite around a subject that is very close to my heart. I also didn't know what kind of reception the general concepts in this would get. oh by the way, I never refered to women as angels. Some time you really should read Lincoln's address before commenting. Eather that or read the post you're so graciously commenting on. Thanx Love."
For the record I am not Alacur.
Second the shop I go to is primaraly older players and yes on occassion they still need to be told this.
Heres a post from a different forum...it kind of explains why I posted the origional post.
I tend to believe that we are socially engineered to fulfil our gender roles. Look in the baby section of any department store some time. Why must a girl always be given pink and books on princesses and ponies. By the way, taking care of said pony. Well it isn’t easy. Those roles seam to follow us wherever you may go. I will say times they are changing. There is more of a blurred line between the gender roles in our society. And yes gender roles do differ in other cultures. As for GLBT issues, I do have to question as its been questioned before if some of the torment come really from the tormentors own insecurities of an inability to fulfil his/her own gender expectations. I write this also at a point of time when homelessness and suicide among GLBT teens seams to be up.
How does all of this fit in with the MTG community?
I go to a shop primarily of older male players. I’ve been hurased in the past by one of the kids and I pretty much have gone though enough in the past to ignore it. Others, younger, new players may not be as strong. I know our shop did lose one transgender boy after one of the 20 something patrons went on a 20-minute repetitive phrase of derogatory terms. Now in response other players in the shop have been exceedingly cool. I know the shop I go to is not the only shop that has had to deal with this problem, I am sure this is not the only incident. I’ve been to other shops. I even saw a shop owner join in. This I feel is unaccepatble and I left said shop.
As for Issues of Gender, One of my best friends is a woman magic player. I have seen women treated much lower then their male counterparts in shops. I’ve seen them poked fun at, ignored and demeaned to a truly unacceptable manner. Let me put it this way I would rather be treated as a gay magic player then a female magic player. Something truly needs to change.
I’m happy with my current shop. It has been one of the better shops with these issues.
Abraham Lincoln once refereed to this phrase in his inaugural address to the country. His closing paragraph was in fact a bit of a masterpiece in an address that seamed so painfully conflicted. At the time he addressed a nation divided. Most of the speech is spent trying to allay the fears of the southern states. In the end a war was fought and the slaves of the south freed. Today these words resonate, today a new president takes office and the world is changed. A time in history I thought I would never see comes to pass. And a man with Kenyan, English, and Irish decent came to office. The first African American President. "Times they are a changing."
So now, a word from my truly cynical side: So few minorities are still acceptable to torment. Lets face it we've become a society of PC (that’s Political Correctness). And that, i believe, is a good thing. We're a nation that has started to realize that we all are quite a lot alike. But, and this is a big but, I've noticed one big issue that polite society almost never mentions. This minority actually is Not a minority. It’s the silent majority: Women. The issue in question is that of Gender.
Why are there so few women gamers? I started asking this question at work, at home, to my friends, and yes even to total strangers. One man replied that women just aren’t hardwired that way; they don't have that competitive edge. I really had to disagree. My assistant Manager is playing this Sunday in a very competitive pool tournament. If women aren’t all that competitive why are there so many women’s sports leagues? Why since the dawn of poker have there been competitive women players? Why are there some women that even learn competitive martial arts? I've heard that MTG and some other traditionally men's games are kind of the old boys club, that any women is looked upon with suspicion until she either proves herself a tease or one of the boys. I've played a female toon on WoW and had guild mates either flirt with me or expect me to totally sit back and heal them even though I was playing a pally. Oh and the incessant flirting Jacks well that only, thank the goddess and god, lasted until I came out as a guy, then things got rather uncomfitable for a bit.
So what’s a guy gamier to do? First realize gamers of the fairer sex do exist. No, they aren’t spies. No, they aren’t eye candy. They are real live people. Be polite and respectful and they will be polite and respectful back. Treat them like you should be treating any new player, Trade with them. Talk to them. Introduce them to the group. Be FRIENDLY.
Finally, one last point. Homophobia. I think this has a lot to do with how one thinks of Gender and specifically femininity. Think of all the derogatory terms for gay men. How many of those came to use due to some illusion of a man not quite masculine enough. I’m gay, and yes, I know that list all too well. The purpose of a shop is to 1) make money, and 2) create a fun friendly environment to play, as the case may be, MTG. When you call someone a F*****, or a F**, or whatever. You’re diverting the shop from its purpose. New players, who may be LBGT (Lesbian, Bisexual, Gay, and Transgender) or straight allies, may overhear, feel uncomfortable, and quite frankly choose not return to the shop. *Side note: For a historical definition of F***** try Wikipedia
I’ll leave you with the last paragraph of President Lincoln’s speech.
"I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."
'Cards that force mana burn'... I seam to remember a card called 'mana web'. Oh please can't they reprint that. awwwwwwwwwwww... as of 04/01/2008 Officially It doesn't cause mana burn...so sad.
quotes from star city forums
"Wow I didn't know I was being graded on this. An english teacher did proof read this for me. She would of faild me if I was in her class, not due to content, but on grammer. Thanks for your concern though. I was trying to reflect the style of Lincoln's address. I was also trying to be very polite around a subject that is very close to my heart. I also didn't know what kind of reception the general concepts in this would get. oh by the way, I never refered to women as angels. Some time you really should read Lincoln's address before commenting. Eather that or read the post you're so graciously commenting on. Thanx Love."
So have you read the post yet?
Double-Post Warning.
Second the shop I go to is primaraly older players and yes on occassion they still need to be told this.
Heres a post from a different forum...it kind of explains why I posted the origional post.
I tend to believe that we are socially engineered to fulfil our gender roles. Look in the baby section of any department store some time. Why must a girl always be given pink and books on princesses and ponies. By the way, taking care of said pony. Well it isn’t easy. Those roles seam to follow us wherever you may go. I will say times they are changing. There is more of a blurred line between the gender roles in our society. And yes gender roles do differ in other cultures. As for GLBT issues, I do have to question as its been questioned before if some of the torment come really from the tormentors own insecurities of an inability to fulfil his/her own gender expectations. I write this also at a point of time when homelessness and suicide among GLBT teens seams to be up.
How does all of this fit in with the MTG community?
I go to a shop primarily of older male players. I’ve been hurased in the past by one of the kids and I pretty much have gone though enough in the past to ignore it. Others, younger, new players may not be as strong. I know our shop did lose one transgender boy after one of the 20 something patrons went on a 20-minute repetitive phrase of derogatory terms. Now in response other players in the shop have been exceedingly cool. I know the shop I go to is not the only shop that has had to deal with this problem, I am sure this is not the only incident. I’ve been to other shops. I even saw a shop owner join in. This I feel is unaccepatble and I left said shop.
As for Issues of Gender, One of my best friends is a woman magic player. I have seen women treated much lower then their male counterparts in shops. I’ve seen them poked fun at, ignored and demeaned to a truly unacceptable manner. Let me put it this way I would rather be treated as a gay magic player then a female magic player. Something truly needs to change.
I’m happy with my current shop. It has been one of the better shops with these issues.
Abraham Lincoln once refereed to this phrase in his inaugural address to the country. His closing paragraph was in fact a bit of a masterpiece in an address that seamed so painfully conflicted. At the time he addressed a nation divided. Most of the speech is spent trying to allay the fears of the southern states. In the end a war was fought and the slaves of the south freed. Today these words resonate, today a new president takes office and the world is changed. A time in history I thought I would never see comes to pass. And a man with Kenyan, English, and Irish decent came to office. The first African American President. "Times they are a changing."
So now, a word from my truly cynical side: So few minorities are still acceptable to torment. Lets face it we've become a society of PC (that’s Political Correctness). And that, i believe, is a good thing. We're a nation that has started to realize that we all are quite a lot alike. But, and this is a big but, I've noticed one big issue that polite society almost never mentions. This minority actually is Not a minority. It’s the silent majority: Women. The issue in question is that of Gender.
Why are there so few women gamers? I started asking this question at work, at home, to my friends, and yes even to total strangers. One man replied that women just aren’t hardwired that way; they don't have that competitive edge. I really had to disagree. My assistant Manager is playing this Sunday in a very competitive pool tournament. If women aren’t all that competitive why are there so many women’s sports leagues? Why since the dawn of poker have there been competitive women players? Why are there some women that even learn competitive martial arts? I've heard that MTG and some other traditionally men's games are kind of the old boys club, that any women is looked upon with suspicion until she either proves herself a tease or one of the boys. I've played a female toon on WoW and had guild mates either flirt with me or expect me to totally sit back and heal them even though I was playing a pally. Oh and the incessant flirting Jacks well that only, thank the goddess and god, lasted until I came out as a guy, then things got rather uncomfitable for a bit.
So what’s a guy gamier to do? First realize gamers of the fairer sex do exist. No, they aren’t spies. No, they aren’t eye candy. They are real live people. Be polite and respectful and they will be polite and respectful back. Treat them like you should be treating any new player, Trade with them. Talk to them. Introduce them to the group. Be FRIENDLY.
Finally, one last point. Homophobia. I think this has a lot to do with how one thinks of Gender and specifically femininity. Think of all the derogatory terms for gay men. How many of those came to use due to some illusion of a man not quite masculine enough. I’m gay, and yes, I know that list all too well. The purpose of a shop is to 1) make money, and 2) create a fun friendly environment to play, as the case may be, MTG. When you call someone a F*****, or a F**, or whatever. You’re diverting the shop from its purpose. New players, who may be LBGT (Lesbian, Bisexual, Gay, and Transgender) or straight allies, may overhear, feel uncomfortable, and quite frankly choose not return to the shop. *Side note: For a historical definition of F***** try Wikipedia
I’ll leave you with the last paragraph of President Lincoln’s speech.
"I am loath to close. We are not enemies, but friends. We must not be enemies. Though passion may have strained it must not break our bonds of affection. The mystic chords of memory, stretching from every battlefield and patriot grave to every living heart and hearthstone all over this broad land, will yet swell the chorus of the Union, when again touched, as surely they will be, by the better angels of our nature."