MTG Salvation

mrsky....how can ur deck take advantage of wild pair with only 14 dudes and only 10 of them fetch each other.....timber mare to 1 of the other two seems fine but it isnt game over...ur dreck doesnt need wild pair and becomes a bad 6 mana conditional tutor...wild pair decks are heavily creature based decks that rely heavily on their creatures to win the game....you have no way to accelerate into it eithe except lens... i think sliver wp decks are much better...

for all the smack talk from dphoenixx and how he claims everything that is teps have they won anything with it???? i mean the deck wasnt perfect when it left their hands people on here mad significant contributions(myself NOT included) as well as pros making things work better....i dont understand why someone would make all this noise and claim all this expertise but have no results to back it up with...how do i know if i can trust their instincts on card evaluation when i dont know if there playskill is up to par??? maybe things dont work for them becuase they arent skilled enough,,,,i alkways side out lotus against big mana blue and it works really well.....the deal with the deck is that it is combo a skilled and intelligent person can use the tools in the deck to the fullest and tehy will win....luck is always a factor and caboose and i have said stuff about over tweaking teh deck....ptqs do have a randomness to them....leave the deck in its most powerful form and change maybe a thing or two for local meta...the deck will win if you win becuase of skill if the deck lost in some cases yes it will be because of luck but most of the time if you think about it you may have been doing something wrong or made a poor choice this deck is very good and can beat any and all hate play it practice it and win with it-

i ahve alot of respect for caboose and mystic as they test things and then admit fi they are good or not and dont always try to be right listen to them they both know the deck well and will be honest if something isnt good aka simain spirit guides.....

play tops board out your lotus vs tron and dont suck with teps

BTape are you qed for Japan?

i dont see tops anywhere on here
Mark Dean
1st Place - Texas - Forth Worth - 1/6

Main Deck
60 cards Sideboard 3 Gemstone Mine
4 Geothermal Crevice
4 Sulfur Vent
4 Tinder Farm
15 land

0 creatures 4 Burning Wish
4 Cabal Ritual
2 Channel the Suns
4 Chromatic Star
4 Chrome Mox
4 Darkwater Egg
2 Infernal Tutor
4 Lotus Bloom
3 Mind's Desire
2 Plunge into Darkness
4 Rite of Flame
3 Sins of the Past
1 Tendrils of Agony
4 Seething Song
45 other spells 1 Mind's Desire
1 Channel the Suns
1 Tendrils of Agony
1 Empty the Warrens
1 Pyroclasm
1 Hull Breach
3 Dark Confidant
3 Chain of Vapor
3 Orim's Chant
15 sideboard cards
i do see them here though:
Ryan Gin
1st Place - Oklahoma - Oklahoma City - 1/13

Main Deck
60 cards Sideboard 4 Ancient Spring
4 Sulfur Vent
4 Geothermal Crevice
4 Gemstone Mine
16 land

0 creatures 4 Chromatic Sphere
4 Chromatic Star
3 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Burning Wish
3 Mind's Desire
4 Rite of Flame
4 Seething Song
4 Cabal Ritual
2 Infernal Tutor
4 Chrome Mox
2 Sins of the Past
1 Chain of Vapor
1 Tendrils of Agony
4 Lotus Bloom
44 other spells 3 Empty the Warrens
3 Defense Grid
3 Duress
1 Hull Breach
1 Mind's Desire
1 Sins of the Past
1 Channel the Suns
1 Pyroclasm
1 Tendrils of Agony
15 sideboard cards

the second deck has tops and lotus...and duress and defense grid in the sb...wow amazing

why do you need duress maindeck...the deck has burning wish

i dont think no stick is good right now....

i guess i more meant that the slight burp where you dont have the mana sometimes is what is preventing this deck from crushing everyone...i have lotus though i dont need the land switch....and the spring is good for the cain of vapor

pre board he has nothing but a fast opp....boast board he has voidslime and stifle....the postboard plays out like any other deck with those cards....defense grid wrecks them they give you too much time ebcause their creatures suck and they ahve to ahve 4 mana to cast anything...

doesnt cabal therapy always work like that????

Jessica Alba> Teps

hermit: you are saying the pros to playing the d.rit is to beable to go off faster yet you concede that the red mana it gives is a problem that can be fixed by planning better....the japanese deck goes of turn four pretty much like clockwork but the rit goes off MORE OFTEN on turn three....since our lands come into play tapped i see turn two as the only turn that you can do anything....most pros agree that if it werent for the mana inconsistancy of this deck it would roll every other deck....getting blue can be a problem though that is why the lotus is good....also the rit makes it mroe suceoptable to discard which during the ptq i faced more often then not...i played against someone with 4 therapies 4 duresses main and 4 gerrards verdict postboard byt the lotus essentially allows you to beat them cool you took my `cards but if i draw anything good your going to have to watch me desire:).....but witht he rits you are goign to get eaten up by discard and sit in top deck mode.......if anyone posts their best d.rit list i will be more then happy to test it and feel i competent enough with teh deck to judge...

d.rit is bad...splice doesnt add to storm its a 1 accelrant for 3 when u have song...top is awesome lotus is awesome....i ahve tested this deck alot....i think playing low land count with rituals to add stomr is the best.....by cutting out cards your make the deck more inconsistant.....you have d.rit and simian spirit guide so you flip all this stuff over and then you have no colored mana you just keep taking out your utility for more red production i dont udnerstand why....lotus wins the game on the 4th turn end of story and when it flips over on desire it can be used for any color mana simian puts a monkey in play and d.rit gives u 3 red mana neither of which cast sins or minds desire which help kill people and the dotn cast tendrils which does kill people the simian spirit guides are bad lands in this deck....tap for 1 red and rfg its a really bad mountain....i think you are trying to make the deck faster but it will become much more inconsistant

i played something that sounds liek the same deck at oklahoma city ptq in the finals...opposition static orb and wirewood and sryb....its really good and it seemed like he was eating aggro and tron for breakfast...i really thought the deck was awesome...i cant wait to see his list

i love the top because it allows you to beat the hate....especially discard top trumps discard and lets you win the game....besides the tops won me the last game of the finals.....draw top play top draw top play top draw top play top.....i would only play spells that up the storm count....i dont like splicing because of that....i think the deck is really solid how it is...it hink taking out the chain is a mistake as it gives you a maindeck answer to trinketangels meddlign mages

Shuu Komuro - Ritual Storm



i played this exact list saturday to a ptq win....basically i started playing teps 5 days before and learned to play the deck( i playtested about 40 hours though:))...
Round1
i played against a very good player with 5 color zoo....basically i play lotus and go off and kill him. my goldfish>yours....
game 2 i made a mistkae with life accidently recording the same total twice...i blame this on me being really into the song that was on my headphones= ipod=loser
game 3 i play lotus and my goldfish is better then his....i did not sb at all for these matchups because our deck is built to crush it
r2
i played locket freeze combo game 1 he went first and i went off on turn three with alot of rite of flame and seething song for a big desire....game 2 he goes first again and plays trinket mage and a fortune thief morphed...i tendrils him for 12 when my lotus came into play....i dont know why he didn anything besides try to combo off....
r3
i played against 3 color aggro with a ton of discard...game one i combo off through a therapy and duress....
game 2 i get hit by every discard spell known to man...aka therapy verdicts and duresses....and i only lose becuase i cant find any desire wish or anything with top...
game 3 goes the same way and i cannot find any combo of tutor or burning wish or desire...i lose and am really mad ....again i didnt sb i thought about bringing in duress but the 1 for 1 trade didnt seem to be worth it as i know a steady stream of gas would be fine....
round 4
i play against g/w aggro....game 1 i combo off extra fast....
game 2 i bring in nothing...he triple armidillo cloaks a watchwolf....i combo off the next turn and whiff(didnt get anything) on a desire for 9...omg...g3 i combo off really fast and desire turn 3 for 6 and win....
round5
ii play against a w/g/u good styuff deck meant to beat teps and boros...aka the nightmare match....he has maindeck counterspells as well as three maindeck chants and 4 cunning wishes to get the fourth....
game 1 i burning wish for duress and duress revealing 2 chantsi rip one next turn i burning wish he counters it i wait and burning wish again 2 turns later and duress he chants i rip a gifts ungiven....on my turn i combo off and kill him....
Sideboard: -4 lotus bloom -1 chain of vapor
+3 defense grids +2 duress
i leave on duress in the board for wish tech:)
i keep a hand of accelerants and 2 duresses....he counters every spell i play time is running short so i duress he counters it and i burning wish and duress to find nothing...i combo off for about 12 goblins with another wish for the warrens....time runs out and we draw so i win...
round 6 i draw in with my friend a UW tron player:)

top8 2 cloupost decks the aggro discard deck aggro loam opposition me u/w tron and a zoo deck

quarters
i play the aggro discard player....she rips apart my hand the first game and i whiff on a desire for 7...i get mad and feel like this will turn out like every other ptq...me losing....game 2 i am really pissed because my first 3 hands dont ahve this thing called land(or lotus)....i mull to 4 and get land lotus seething and star....i win after she rips out the song as my lotus comes into play i desire for 5 and the last card is a sins...i win...
sb=- chain of vapor +1 warrens
game3 she rips up my hand bad but i manage a desire for 7....on turn 4....the third card revealed is an empty and she scoops:)

semis
i play cloudpost played by a really good player...early in the tourney i scouted his deck to see if he had anything...he didnt just counters...i combo off game 1 on turn4 and win:)
sb -4 lotus-1 vapor +3 grids+2 duress
game 2 he counters everything i slaver locks me one turn before i can get him
game 3
i duress him early and he coutners two fo them...i know i can get him on turn 4 so on turn three i cast a star and he counters scrying for an answer i tap a land rite of flame and slap down the grid:)....turn 4 i play a chanel the suns which i wish for and he doesn some math and condesends for 1(he had a chalice set for one btw) i combo off and kill him i desire for 7 and the last cad is desire and i keep going finally finding the tendrills on a desire for 14:)

finals
i play elf opposition....
game one he has no maindeck answers so i just race and win
sb -1 chain - 1 wish +2 grids
obv if i take out the vapor i will lose to opposition...and i do....he taps my crap oen turn before i can go off:(
sb i put everything back to normal
then sb like this -1 chrome mox -1 wish -1 lotus
+ 3 grids
my rationale is i need the chain and the grids i need for stifle and or chant i just felt the cards i had were fast enough to win as opposition resolve is gg no japan for me...
i get a lotus and a land plus tendrils and wish i keep....i play lotus...he attacks and plays elves setting up his stuff ...my lotus comes into play and hes tapped out he knows i just ahve some chromatic stuff 2 lands and a top and isnt worried i top eot and see nothing...im boned...on my turn i decide if i let him untap he wins so i go for it....lotus comes into play and i sac a land to rite i use one mana to top drawing a card with the sphere i top and the the cards are land sphere top...im like uhh i just lost in the finals of a ptq wtf....then i look at teh lonely seething song in my hand and the chanel the suns i had wished for the turn before...so heres what i did i sacd my land and channel into song into cabal i had put the top on top and just tapped the top to draw a top and rinse repeat a bunch of times with 1 mana left i sacced my lotus and tendrils him for 11...he looks at his hand
"i dont have a force of will in my deck"
me:"i guess youll take 22 then"
and that was it...overall i liked this deck and recommend it...you can win through hate...people think discard is a problem but with lotus and top it really isnt....and i hate desire i think winning the last game of the finals without it was really good for me as that card failed me alot throughout the day...whiffing on 9 8 and 7 sucks
i can answer any questions or anything else

i just won the oklahoma city ptq with japanese teps