Town:
Newcomb - the one who has been pushing the thread along constantly. I especially like the constant re-evaluation of the game state as it's going along - like thinking about who he should be taking a look at when I flip town for example even though I'm clearly a scum read of his. I agree with a lot of his thoughts/reads on people too. Won't lie, I'd definitely be paranoid if he survives a long time though but even then I would be hesitant to lynch him.
Nacho - I liked his entrance into the game, though admittedly there was a patch of the thread where he then disappeared again. But I find his series of catching up posts over the last two pages of the thread (~p10), as well as his response to being called out for disappearing very organic.
tom - There's not really any one thing I can think of that leads me to townreading tom. But sort of the general tone/vibe of his posts have been good. I'm a little cautious that part of it is from him scum reading Iso, but I think I had a town lean on him before that all happened anyway.
Town-lean:
Vaimes - I'm still not really sure how people manage to correctly read Vaimes every single game, but there hasn't really been anything that stood out to me. The thing that puts him as a town-lean for me though is that I kinda feel the direction of the game so far has gone in a way that scum!Vaimes wouldn't have dropped off in activity in the last few RL days? Like although I don't think any scum has been in particular trouble, and he could coast along - I think scum Vaimes would have at least made pushes towards Ophidia/me, even if it was simply a sheep lolcat or something.
Grapefruit - I disliked his catch up post that lead to his vote on me (not for his vote on me, but the reasoning is very much just in line with other people's thoughts and I'm not sure that his reasoning isn't a contradiction with his thoughts he expressed earlier in the thread - not sure I buy his just making a wording mistake regarding "entrance"). But, his most recent series of posts and his earliest series of posts have been pretty good. Like even though he is happy to vote for me, I like that he is critically looking over Typhon/Delphine who are also on my wagon. I also don't have the sense that this is from him knowing I'm town and wanting to look good for D2+.
Null:
Pozzai - I can follow along/agree with some of the points made against Pozzai (I think tom/Vaimes/Newcomb have made very compelling arguments/thoughts), but being honest, a large part of me also is a bit hesitant because Regfan has been the one heavily pushing this wagon. Was planning on re-reading his meta to see if that gave me a better insight into him, but RL meant that didn't happen.
Typhon - typhon is black because I'm not sure there is enough to go on him since he was V/LA for the bulk of the game (at least when all the action kicked into gear). Gun to my head for v/w on him, I'd still go with town, but I think he definitely needs to be the focus of some attention tomorrow.
Scum-lean:
Ophidia - I didn't mind the self consciousness early on, but similar to Delphine, there's an element of not really doing anything until asked to that bugs me. Especially having to be prompted to make #494. Eh.
Regfan - I still think the most likely scum not on my wagon is Regfan. I liked the mindset that had him going over my post on Pozzai. But overall, I think his approach of voting for Pozzai, but also expressing his happiness with my wagon kinda seems to be trying to absolve him of any responsibility when I get mislynched. I get that I'm his second scum read so it's by no means a bad thing if I get lynched, I can see and follow that PoV. But like his recent exchange with Iso regarding voting for Pozzai instead, it kinda feels weak to me, I'm not sure he believes he had any chance of convincing anyone (especially Iso who had already declared his vote done for the day) to lynch Pozzai instead. Especially coupled with his statement that my flip isn't as informative to him as Pozzai's flip.
Scum:
Iso - with some distance from the game due to this weekend, I'm still not sure how much of my scum read on Iso is just taking too personally being scumread by him as well as his snap/overdramatic statement that his vote is staying on me. I'm not sure how objective I can be on that so I won't bother, but honestly I find other parts of his play suspicious too. His most recent exchange for example, I kinda feel he has backed himself into a bit of a corner regarding his strength of my read, so doing anything but affirming how a scum flip town clears him would seem odd. The other thing is that I think tom/Iso are unaligned - don't think town!tom would be misreading iso to such an extent that apparently iso is his preferred lynch over me.
Though in the slim chance that we are in the world where iso is town, I would definitely look at tom in detail. In that world, his reluctance to world build a scum team would be suspicious. I'm not sure I believe that he can think that Iso/me can be w/w. But I don't think him and Iso are w/w so...
DelphiBlue - I've talked already about the passivity that I dislike. But in #480, I don't buy that her entire game view is so distorted by my play that she needs my flip to reconsider the game state.
Team?:
In terms of worldbuilding, Delphi/Iso/Regfan/(Ophidia) seems a bit too out there for me. Although I find both Delphine/Iso scummiest, I think I'm sticking with my thought that it's unlikely both are scum. The only world I can see both being scum would be the precise team Delphi/Iso/Nacho, someone doing really well in the thread such that Delphine feels okay to hop onto my wagon at that point in time. So I guess bring in Pozzai/typhon maybe?
@X=Y - My issue with your analysis of your wagon is that while you may have mentioned a town read on Typhon at the start of your paragraph about him the way you went into it made it seem more like you have him as null. And having him as roughly null and saying you think the scum is x/y instead doesn't run smoothly.
I think this might just be an issue of it being a fairly weak town lean, but like I said, him being V/LA made me put him aside mostly.
X=y kinda gave up protesting his lynch up to this point. You can compare him to me, and see the difference between our posts. I tried harder to not get lynched than he did by explaining my thought process and being more open.
Eh I dunno, I don't think it's helpful to argue about being scum read for tonal reasons (which was definitely the case at first). Like Newcomb's early point - the post itself was written in a way to not give out my reads of the situation. Defending every little point initially just derails the thread to put more focus on me as town when it could be looking at scum.
Working on a reads list - not sure how helpful it'll be since apparently almost everyone is ok with my lynch, but hopefully it'll be useful to someone for D2 just as a summary of my perspective so far.
I've got some thoughts on Newcomb. A few things he has said have been noted but not commented on, a few of his conclusions seemed just a little bit off. But I'm not really ready to talk about them. Remember that thing Newcomb said about how this game seems pretty easy but if it isn't he would have to consider [whoever he said]? Yeah, that's basically where I'm at. If we lynch through Xequalsy/Iso/Pozzai/Typhon/Ophidia and don't find 2-3 scum, it's probably you or Newcomb.
Who else are we waiting on to come back from whatever? I haven't had a new thought in quite some time and am rather ready for some flips.
If we lynch through all those names and don't find 2 wolves, the game will be over.
Let's say we flip xequalsy town and I get N1'd. It's D2. Now what? Do you just want to keep swinging through the PoE of Iso/Pozzai/Ophedia (I don't think Typhon should be in the PoE at this point), or what?
Also I know I said we should just get on with lynching xequalsy but he's stated V/LA can we please not lynch him without a claim, thanks.
To clarify, do you want a claim? (Just Newcomb/tom/Nacho answer please).
Going to be away until Monday evening, got an unexpected project work load wise. Have also informed Wheat. Will devote time catching up to everything then.
the entire paragraph about Typhon to effectively end up with a fairly null read on him but still to progress stating that he thinks the scum on his wagon is Iso/Delphine doesn't add up at all.
Eh, I don't see why it doesn't follow:
I have a lean town read on Typhon over other things he did, but I still have concerns about his vote (the way he voted). I've shelved those for now, since he had to go without responding to my answers to his questions. Meanwhile, I think there was probably only one scum at the time on the wagon, and those were more likely to be Delphine/Iso who were much more scummier than a lean town read.
I guess what I'm currently trying to understand is why your play style seems to be a bit passive this game. Like the vote you made after I asked you to put down a vote, or the fact that I had to specifically ask why you made your vote on me in particular over anyone else in particular. I've also noticed the vast bulk of your posts is you answering other people's questions. (the other ~third is you prodding people with questions)
I'd have to go back and re-read some of your other games to figure out if it's just your usual play style, but it seems to me you're just scum who is happy to mostly coast along atm.
Town
Grape: I'm town despite there being some doubts now because of my peaceing out of the thread.
Why do you feel the need to sum up your standing within the thread?
So I do not like 209 and 211 from Typh despite him echoing my scum reads. I dislike his picking apart of X=Y's entrance which felt fairly normal despite not voting in the first post. I also hate using an activity tell this early (or even at all).
@Grapefruit
Who's xequalsy read was the most convincing?
The only one that stuck out was Newcombs, but that is just due to me leaning on his mega post to catch up. Honestly they're all pretty much the same. He didn't have a good entry and his recent defense has been underwhelming. I haven't really seen any dissenting opinions on that.
Hey, xequalsy: Why do you think I was "clearly wrong once"? Vaimes hasn't flipped. Do you expdct me to believe that you've grokked a better understanding of the gamestate than I have at this point when you've pressured absolutely nobody and the best vote you could come up with is on me?
Well I'm town so you're still wrong. It doesn't matter if Vaimes has flipped or not, you were "pretty sure" that the scum team was Grapefruit/me/Vaimes and now you're more Grapefruit/me/Ophidia. You're wrong for one of the teams.
And yes, since your basic premise of the game so far has been - xequalsy is 100% scum and I'm not moving off him for the rest of the day. So I by default have a better understand of the gamestate since I'm in the position of being the main wagon at the moment knowing the fact that I'm town.
The vote on you was a prod to see what you'd post. Yes, there probably could have been other people I found suspicious at the time I could have voted - but I didn't choose to use my vote that way. Currently, the vote is staying for your vote on me.
Cool. Any reason in particular that you waited until p7 to vote for someone?
The core of it is that I want my votes to really mean that I feel the person I'm voting is someone I want to lynch. There's more to it than that, but the only angle my brain seems to be able to come at it from rn is an incredibly long-winded narrative of my experience of trying to read you this game, and I'd rather not go there right now.
I mean for a person you're really wanting to lynch, you've not really presented much of a case here. Like you've made some comments on me before, but for this vote you didn't even bother to sum up how you arrived at it, nor whether it was anything in particular that made you finally vote for me (or if it was a summing together of lots of things at once). Don't buy that at all.
His RVS(?) vote on Vaimes even though the thread had long ago moved on is interesting but overall null I think - clearly his posts were as he was reading along.
In terms of his questions to people:
His question to Delphine in of itself seems fairly throw away - something to keep an eye on. (fake edit: eh, he followed up on his question to Vaimes about Newcomb, but not really this one.
@Pozzai: throwing your questions back at you - why did you ask that question and what did you hope to get from it?)
I sort of get what he's thinking of about asking tom the question he does. From the point of view of someone who did miss tom planning to play as someone else's playstyle, it does seem (depending on his level of familiarity with tom - @Pozzai/tom, have you and tom played together before?) like it's useful to work out why tom is doing what he is.
His question to Von about Newcomb seems fairly standard. His Grapefruit question seems pretty standard too.
Overall, it's certainly fairly fluffy, but I'm not really familiar enough with the way Pozzai plays to say whether that means anything in particular. I do think I disagree with Regfan still though (though other people very familiar with Pozzai feel free to disagree), I can't really tell yet from just the questions he asked whether he was attempting to solve the game at all with his entrance.
I do think tom did bring up a good point about his entrance though - it was interesting that he didn't really seem to remark on Regfan at all. His response to tom's prod is ok - like it's not awkward or anything, but it's kinda an easy cop out of having to engage much with Regfan (at that point).
His vote on Regfan I can buy coming from town!Pozzai, a little frustrated with Regfan. Null overall.
I like his follow up on Vaimes/Newcomb (as well as him continuing to throw out questions).
So overall, I like his tone so far, the varying amounts of follow-up (like his development of his Vaimes/Newcomb read is good, but everything else is eh/missing) are a bit iffy. Slight town-read overall. Nothing concerning me too much, but I think I will definitely try to read some of his other games to try and understand his meta. That would definitely help me clarify exactly what is down to his style of play and if this game is particularly different from his town game.
@X=Y RE; #287, I disagree; I think missing large sections of information (You may have missed part of one post of mine but would have been able to pick up what's been said re; the context and conversation that follows) is something that makes more sense from mafia. It's also a case of I think most areas he commented on when catching up don't help him determine anyones alignment and look like throwaway questions.
Eh, let's agree to disagree on the first point (not really getting anywhere with that to be honest and I think the second point was more important anyway). Gonna do a re-read of Pozzai, so expect something on that front in an hour or two.
Quote from Newcomb »
This, however... doesn't? It's sharp and aggressive and OMGUS-y and everything, but the specificity kind of works for me. I think scum!Pozzai would be more... something. Reasonable. Like, this argument doesn't do much for me. I feel like scum!Pozzai would feel a little exposed by it. I could be giving him too much credit, I suppose? But I don't feel like this is the kind of thing you type as mafia and go, "yep, this is airtight."
I'm not sure about this read - Pozzai being under a bit of pressure from multiple people in the thread might make them post a little less tightly, especially if they don't have an "airtight" defence lined up and still feel the need to say something.
Leaving aside my reads of each of you, I'd expect there to probably be one scum (or more, I guess but probably only the one) on the wagon.
I have a town read on Typhon from his entrance, and his push on Ophidia, but I think his vote on me was pretty weak to be honest, not even counting the activity tell part of it. Like, I'm not really sure why he focused a ton on the RVS entrance. But also the way he did it - by asking a lot of questions instead of really presenting much of a case on any of it. I think part of that was having to VLA pretty soon afterwards though so lack of follow up on it is null for me atm.
I think the scum is either Iso or DelphiBlue. Iso, because of his over dramatic vote park - especially when my vote on him was fairly early D1 (in what I assume will be a fairly long D1 RL time wise). I don't feel votes have to be for particularly strong reasons at the start of D1, so his response is a bit of an over-reaction. Delphine because she is taking a back seat, and it was a bit surprising to me that she hadn't even voted (especially when she had proffered opinions on me throughout the thread already).
For the scum not on my wagon right now, I would say Regfan stands out a bit for the whole shtick of commenting his approval of votes for me but not really pushing me in any of his responses to my questions so far. Like he's focused on Pozzai right now sure, but as I'm apparently his second top scum read after Pozzai, his interactions with me have been fairly surface level reiterations of his points about Pozzai. Feels like he's setting up swapping over to me after seeing which wagon is more easily pushed for.
(Also - and I appreciate it's probably down to me personally - but I was making a super rough 2 min "read" list in my QT, but his name was the one I forgot, even though we've interacted a fair bit so I'm definitely going to be read over him again in detail as well)
Quote from Iso »
It's almost as though you haven't been reading my posts.
I know your thoughts on Ophidia, but since you were happy to throw out 4 scum reads earlier, who else do you find suspicious? Surely you can't think you've solved the game? (Clearly you were already wrong once).
Newcomb - the one who has been pushing the thread along constantly. I especially like the constant re-evaluation of the game state as it's going along - like thinking about who he should be taking a look at when I flip town for example even though I'm clearly a scum read of his. I agree with a lot of his thoughts/reads on people too. Won't lie, I'd definitely be paranoid if he survives a long time though but even then I would be hesitant to lynch him.
Nacho - I liked his entrance into the game, though admittedly there was a patch of the thread where he then disappeared again. But I find his series of catching up posts over the last two pages of the thread (~p10), as well as his response to being called out for disappearing very organic.
tom - There's not really any one thing I can think of that leads me to townreading tom. But sort of the general tone/vibe of his posts have been good. I'm a little cautious that part of it is from him scum reading Iso, but I think I had a town lean on him before that all happened anyway.
Town-lean:
Vaimes - I'm still not really sure how people manage to correctly read Vaimes every single game, but there hasn't really been anything that stood out to me. The thing that puts him as a town-lean for me though is that I kinda feel the direction of the game so far has gone in a way that scum!Vaimes wouldn't have dropped off in activity in the last few RL days? Like although I don't think any scum has been in particular trouble, and he could coast along - I think scum Vaimes would have at least made pushes towards Ophidia/me, even if it was simply a sheep lolcat or something.
Grapefruit - I disliked his catch up post that lead to his vote on me (not for his vote on me, but the reasoning is very much just in line with other people's thoughts and I'm not sure that his reasoning isn't a contradiction with his thoughts he expressed earlier in the thread - not sure I buy his just making a wording mistake regarding "entrance"). But, his most recent series of posts and his earliest series of posts have been pretty good. Like even though he is happy to vote for me, I like that he is critically looking over Typhon/Delphine who are also on my wagon. I also don't have the sense that this is from him knowing I'm town and wanting to look good for D2+.
Null:
Pozzai - I can follow along/agree with some of the points made against Pozzai (I think tom/Vaimes/Newcomb have made very compelling arguments/thoughts), but being honest, a large part of me also is a bit hesitant because Regfan has been the one heavily pushing this wagon. Was planning on re-reading his meta to see if that gave me a better insight into him, but RL meant that didn't happen.
Typhon - typhon is black because I'm not sure there is enough to go on him since he was V/LA for the bulk of the game (at least when all the action kicked into gear). Gun to my head for v/w on him, I'd still go with town, but I think he definitely needs to be the focus of some attention tomorrow.
Scum-lean:
Ophidia - I didn't mind the self consciousness early on, but similar to Delphine, there's an element of not really doing anything until asked to that bugs me. Especially having to be prompted to make #494. Eh.
Regfan - I still think the most likely scum not on my wagon is Regfan. I liked the mindset that had him going over my post on Pozzai. But overall, I think his approach of voting for Pozzai, but also expressing his happiness with my wagon kinda seems to be trying to absolve him of any responsibility when I get mislynched. I get that I'm his second scum read so it's by no means a bad thing if I get lynched, I can see and follow that PoV. But like his recent exchange with Iso regarding voting for Pozzai instead, it kinda feels weak to me, I'm not sure he believes he had any chance of convincing anyone (especially Iso who had already declared his vote done for the day) to lynch Pozzai instead. Especially coupled with his statement that my flip isn't as informative to him as Pozzai's flip.
Scum:
Iso - with some distance from the game due to this weekend, I'm still not sure how much of my scum read on Iso is just taking too personally being scumread by him as well as his snap/overdramatic statement that his vote is staying on me. I'm not sure how objective I can be on that so I won't bother, but honestly I find other parts of his play suspicious too. His most recent exchange for example, I kinda feel he has backed himself into a bit of a corner regarding his strength of my read, so doing anything but affirming how a scum flip town clears him would seem odd. The other thing is that I think tom/Iso are unaligned - don't think town!tom would be misreading iso to such an extent that apparently iso is his preferred lynch over me.
Though in the slim chance that we are in the world where iso is town, I would definitely look at tom in detail. In that world, his reluctance to world build a scum team would be suspicious. I'm not sure I believe that he can think that Iso/me can be w/w. But I don't think him and Iso are w/w so...
DelphiBlue - I've talked already about the passivity that I dislike. But in #480, I don't buy that her entire game view is so distorted by my play that she needs my flip to reconsider the game state.
Team?:
In terms of worldbuilding, Delphi/Iso/Regfan/(Ophidia) seems a bit too out there for me. Although I find both Delphine/Iso scummiest, I think I'm sticking with my thought that it's unlikely both are scum. The only world I can see both being scum would be the precise team Delphi/Iso/Nacho, someone doing really well in the thread such that Delphine feels okay to hop onto my wagon at that point in time. So I guess bring in Pozzai/typhon maybe?
I think this might just be an issue of it being a fairly weak town lean, but like I said, him being V/LA made me put him aside mostly.
Eh I dunno, I don't think it's helpful to argue about being scum read for tonal reasons (which was definitely the case at first). Like Newcomb's early point - the post itself was written in a way to not give out my reads of the situation. Defending every little point initially just derails the thread to put more focus on me as town when it could be looking at scum.
Working on a reads list - not sure how helpful it'll be since apparently almost everyone is ok with my lynch, but hopefully it'll be useful to someone for D2 just as a summary of my perspective so far.
I'm Captain Sergei, VT.
Going to go through the thread in more detail now - I had a quick skim.
To clarify, do you want a claim? (Just Newcomb/tom/Nacho answer please).
Just behind the people who had RL reasons for being away, yes.
Eh, I don't see why it doesn't follow:
I have a lean town read on Typhon over other things he did, but I still have concerns about his vote (the way he voted). I've shelved those for now, since he had to go without responding to my answers to his questions. Meanwhile, I think there was probably only one scum at the time on the wagon, and those were more likely to be Delphine/Iso who were much more scummier than a lean town read.
I guess what I'm currently trying to understand is why your play style seems to be a bit passive this game. Like the vote you made after I asked you to put down a vote, or the fact that I had to specifically ask why you made your vote on me in particular over anyone else in particular. I've also noticed the vast bulk of your posts is you answering other people's questions. (the other ~third is you prodding people with questions)
I'd have to go back and re-read some of your other games to figure out if it's just your usual play style, but it seems to me you're just scum who is happy to mostly coast along atm.
Why do you feel the need to sum up your standing within the thread?
What changed between the two posts?
Well I'm town so you're still wrong. It doesn't matter if Vaimes has flipped or not, you were "pretty sure" that the scum team was Grapefruit/me/Vaimes and now you're more Grapefruit/me/Ophidia. You're wrong for one of the teams.
And yes, since your basic premise of the game so far has been - xequalsy is 100% scum and I'm not moving off him for the rest of the day. So I by default have a better understand of the gamestate since I'm in the position of being the main wagon at the moment knowing the fact that I'm town.
The vote on you was a prod to see what you'd post. Yes, there probably could have been other people I found suspicious at the time I could have voted - but I didn't choose to use my vote that way. Currently, the vote is staying for your vote on me.
I mean for a person you're really wanting to lynch, you've not really presented much of a case here. Like you've made some comments on me before, but for this vote you didn't even bother to sum up how you arrived at it, nor whether it was anything in particular that made you finally vote for me (or if it was a summing together of lots of things at once). Don't buy that at all.
His RVS(?) vote on Vaimes even though the thread had long ago moved on is interesting but overall null I think - clearly his posts were as he was reading along.
In terms of his questions to people:
His question to Delphine in of itself seems fairly throw away - something to keep an eye on. (fake edit: eh, he followed up on his question to Vaimes about Newcomb, but not really this one.
@Pozzai: throwing your questions back at you - why did you ask that question and what did you hope to get from it?)
I sort of get what he's thinking of about asking tom the question he does. From the point of view of someone who did miss tom planning to play as someone else's playstyle, it does seem (depending on his level of familiarity with tom - @Pozzai/tom, have you and tom played together before?) like it's useful to work out why tom is doing what he is.
His question to Von about Newcomb seems fairly standard. His Grapefruit question seems pretty standard too.
Overall, it's certainly fairly fluffy, but I'm not really familiar enough with the way Pozzai plays to say whether that means anything in particular. I do think I disagree with Regfan still though (though other people very familiar with Pozzai feel free to disagree), I can't really tell yet from just the questions he asked whether he was attempting to solve the game at all with his entrance.
I do think tom did bring up a good point about his entrance though - it was interesting that he didn't really seem to remark on Regfan at all. His response to tom's prod is ok - like it's not awkward or anything, but it's kinda an easy cop out of having to engage much with Regfan (at that point).
His vote on Regfan I can buy coming from town!Pozzai, a little frustrated with Regfan. Null overall.
I like his follow up on Vaimes/Newcomb (as well as him continuing to throw out questions).
So overall, I like his tone so far, the varying amounts of follow-up (like his development of his Vaimes/Newcomb read is good, but everything else is eh/missing) are a bit iffy. Slight town-read overall. Nothing concerning me too much, but I think I will definitely try to read some of his other games to try and understand his meta. That would definitely help me clarify exactly what is down to his style of play and if this game is particularly different from his town game.
Cool. Any reason in particular that you waited until p7 to vote for someone?
Eh, let's agree to disagree on the first point (not really getting anywhere with that to be honest and I think the second point was more important anyway). Gonna do a re-read of Pozzai, so expect something on that front in an hour or two.
I'm not sure about this read - Pozzai being under a bit of pressure from multiple people in the thread might make them post a little less tightly, especially if they don't have an "airtight" defence lined up and still feel the need to say something.
Leaving aside my reads of each of you, I'd expect there to probably be one scum (or more, I guess but probably only the one) on the wagon.
I have a town read on Typhon from his entrance, and his push on Ophidia, but I think his vote on me was pretty weak to be honest, not even counting the activity tell part of it. Like, I'm not really sure why he focused a ton on the RVS entrance. But also the way he did it - by asking a lot of questions instead of really presenting much of a case on any of it. I think part of that was having to VLA pretty soon afterwards though so lack of follow up on it is null for me atm.
I think the scum is either Iso or DelphiBlue. Iso, because of his over dramatic vote park - especially when my vote on him was fairly early D1 (in what I assume will be a fairly long D1 RL time wise). I don't feel votes have to be for particularly strong reasons at the start of D1, so his response is a bit of an over-reaction. Delphine because she is taking a back seat, and it was a bit surprising to me that she hadn't even voted (especially when she had proffered opinions on me throughout the thread already).
For the scum not on my wagon right now, I would say Regfan stands out a bit for the whole shtick of commenting his approval of votes for me but not really pushing me in any of his responses to my questions so far. Like he's focused on Pozzai right now sure, but as I'm apparently his second top scum read after Pozzai, his interactions with me have been fairly surface level reiterations of his points about Pozzai. Feels like he's setting up swapping over to me after seeing which wagon is more easily pushed for.
(Also - and I appreciate it's probably down to me personally - but I was making a super rough 2 min "read" list in my QT, but his name was the one I forgot, even though we've interacted a fair bit so I'm definitely going to be read over him again in detail as well)
I know your thoughts on Ophidia, but since you were happy to throw out 4 scum reads earlier, who else do you find suspicious? Surely you can't think you've solved the game? (Clearly you were already wrong once).