Birthing Pod is a fair card and the only people wanting it banned are people who either couldn't afford it, don't like it, lose to it, or are playing a deck that also either has a bad matchup to it or is losing Cruise.
lol.. If you actually bother to look through the posts and profile of ppl who actually wanted it banned or being reviewed, you would actually realise how wrong you are and how biased you are. In fact some of the ppl who acknowledges pod is a strong card play Pod themselves and thus it certainly invalidate what you claim about ppl who want the card to be looked at. Lol..
Guys, let's just stop the pod argument.. There is no point arguing when one side have a biased view since they are playing the deck themselves..
Such arguments are pretty pointless since generally neither both sides will be able to convince the other side even when data has obviously shown the power of certain cards.. not everyone thinks for the health of the format anyway at the end. Lol.
And the other half hate playing against it with their bad decks and want it banned because they think it will somehow help the game more than hurt it.
lol. That why i says depends on perspective. I personally think pod is strong and I hope it stays then I can play Pod back as well since I have all the pieces to play it anytime and I personally dun think my other decks fares badly against pod depending on draw but I also understand very well as better creatues are being printed out, sooner or later pod should be reviewed and to see if it really kills the modern meta or not..
Guys, let's just stop the pod argument.. There is no point arguing when one side have a biased view since they are playing the deck themselves..
Such arguments are pretty pointless since generally neither both sides will be able to convince the other side even when data has obviously shown the power of certain cards.. not everyone thinks for the health of the format anyway at the end. Lol.
how do you guys generally keep all your cards? I'm not saying the rares and the expensive 1. I keep the expensive rares and expensive cards like known modern staples in good binders I'm saying commons and uncommons that is not worth much. I have gotten alot whenever I go to tournaments and open packs but I do not wish to just throw them away since we never know when we can use some of them so i'm wondering how do you guys keep them..
Do you guys get big card boxes and just keep them or just throw them all in a drawer and etc and do you guys sort them out or anything as well?
If wizards bans treasure cruise this monday (which I think they will) there reasoning will prob be: aggro decks in modern have traditionally been explosive and good at getting the job done quick but when they fail they usually have a hard time to recover. treasure cruise takes away this and gives u/r/x aggro strategies the ability to recover when they are behind in attrition.
You don't seem to understand me. I'm not arguing what wizards will or won't do, I'm arguing what wizards should or shouldn't do. I just don't see the logic behind a TC ban right now and so think it shouldn't be banned.
Its a good thing you dont work for wizards then.
If treasure cruise is banned, it's a travesty. 15% or so of the meta plays it. Blue FINALLY gets a good draw spell and everyone freaking panics. How good does the value on creatures have to BE before blue can get actual draw spells? And don't say blue's draw was fine before because it was nowhere near fine. DTT and cruise are probably the best things to happen to the format in ages. The formats shown already it can handle it too. Why can't you?
yea because drawing 3 cards for one blue mana isnt on the broken side or anything. or 2x brainstorms in the power of 1 card for 2 mana isnt either.....
alright lets leave those delve cards alone and let blue dominate modern because unparalelled connsistency in modern wont hurt anything. If your right sheepz lets hope its a good thing
With such a statement from you, i actually wonder if you have actually played the decks that run DTT before or play against the decks that run DTT or not.. lol..
cruise is played in more than delver and fuels some combo decks in a way that ponder/ preordain can and they are banned. If they only banned cruise than dig would make twin better than it was before which is not what wizards wants.
Are you sure you know the combo decks? TC does not see play in combo decks in general. The commonly known modern combo decks such pod variants, twin variant, scapeshift/ r/g shift, ad nauseam, r/g breach, u/w tron, bloom titan, living end, griselbrand reanimator, 8 rack all doesn't run TC although you might see 1 or 2 TC for some unique list especially when people are playtesting for fun ( i did that a few times with my scapeshift, twin and etc as well to try) but the general consensus is most combo decks prefer dtt instead of TC cos the card selection is better for most combo decks rather than drawing more cards.
The only known combo decks that does run TC is mainly Jeskai ascendency and storm because of how their deck is built to use cards fast and even then they do not run 4 copies all the times. You really should read up more on combo decks before you make such a wrong statement regarding combo decks..
ascendancy and storm are what I meant by THE combo decks........
And oh ya. I'm not trying to argue that TC is not good. I'm mainly trying to say that MOST combo decks don't want to run TC. A fringe combo decks that want to run it does not equate to "some" but very few. You are giving the impression that quite a few combo decks are using that card which is rather misleading and give a poor representation of the combo decks in general. No offence meant.
just because every deck doesnt run it doesnt mean its not to powerful for the format. cruise/dtt are very powerful but dont take MY word for it lets see what happens monday.
Lol. You don't even understand where I'm coming from.
I already stated that I am not arguing about TC and about whether it should be banned. I'm only saying it is inaccurate to give the impression that alot of combo decks run TC when it is really just like 1 or 2 decks that really represent a very small % of the combo archetype and aren't even dominating or making results. IF you are saying alot of combo decks run EITHER TC or DTT then yes, you are correct.
cruise is played in more than delver and fuels some combo decks in a way that ponder/ preordain can and they are banned. If they only banned cruise than dig would make twin better than it was before which is not what wizards wants.
Are you sure you know the combo decks? TC does not see play in combo decks in general. The commonly known modern combo decks such pod variants, twin variant, scapeshift/ r/g shift, ad nauseam, r/g breach, u/w tron, bloom titan, living end, griselbrand reanimator, 8 rack all doesn't run TC although you might see 1 or 2 TC for some unique list especially when people are playtesting for fun ( i did that a few times with my scapeshift, twin and etc as well to try) but the general consensus is most combo decks prefer dtt instead of TC cos the card selection is better for most combo decks rather than drawing more cards.
The only known combo decks that does run TC is mainly Jeskai ascendency and storm because of how their deck is built to use cards fast and even then they do not run 4 copies all the times. You really should read up more on combo decks before you make such a wrong statement regarding combo decks..
ascendancy and storm are what I meant by THE combo decks........
And oh ya. I'm not trying to argue that TC is not good. I'm mainly trying to say that MOST combo decks don't want to run TC. A fringe combo decks that want to run it does not equate to "some" but very few. You are giving the impression that quite a few combo decks are using that card which is rather misleading and give a poor representation of the combo decks in general. No offence meant.
cruise is played in more than delver and fuels some combo decks in a way that ponder/ preordain can and they are banned. If they only banned cruise than dig would make twin better than it was before which is not what wizards wants.
Are you sure you know the combo decks? TC does not see play in combo decks in general. The commonly known modern combo decks such pod variants, twin variant, scapeshift/ r/g shift, ad nauseam, r/g breach, u/w tron, bloom titan, living end, griselbrand reanimator, 8 rack all doesn't run TC although you might see 1 or 2 TC for some unique list especially when people are playtesting for fun ( i did that a few times with my scapeshift, twin and etc as well to try) but the general consensus is most combo decks prefer dtt instead of TC cos the card selection is better for most combo decks rather than drawing more cards.
The only known combo decks that does run TC is mainly Jeskai ascendency and storm because of how their deck is built to use cards fast and even then they do not run 4 copies all the times. You really should read up more on combo decks before you make such a wrong statement regarding combo decks..
ascendancy and storm are what I meant by THE combo decks........
And they represent like less than 10% of the combo decks in modern ???
cruise is played in more than delver and fuels some combo decks in a way that ponder/ preordain can and they are banned. If they only banned cruise than dig would make twin better than it was before which is not what wizards wants.
Are you sure you know the combo decks? TC does not see play in combo decks in general. The commonly known modern combo decks such pod variants, twin variant, scapeshift/ r/g shift, ad nauseam, r/g breach, u/w tron, bloom titan, living end, griselbrand reanimator, 8 rack all doesn't run TC although you might see 1 or 2 TC for some unique list especially when people are playtesting for fun ( i did that a few times with my scapeshift, twin and etc as well to try) but the general consensus is most combo decks prefer dtt instead of TC cos the card selection is better for most combo decks rather than drawing more cards.
The only known combo decks that does run TC is mainly Jeskai ascendency and storm because of how their deck is built to use cards fast and even then they do not run 4 copies all the times. You really should read up more on combo decks before you make such a wrong statement regarding combo decks..
You can play modern casually with a relatively cheap deck $100-200 and hold your own, but considering your experience with modern you won't win any games in tournaments with a modern deck that inexpensive. Modern decks can get up to $1500 or more, consider lands cost upwards of $50 each, the best singles cost $60-180 and you'll need playsets of those.
No offence but the information that you gave is wrong. Only a couple of decks in modern costs more than $1500 when running in their optimum stocklist. In the current top tier or proven section of modern, only Junk/Junk and RUG twin cost is around or more than $1500 and that is simply due to having that 1 card tarmogoyf which take up more than $800 for a playset. If you aren't going for goyf or those decks that uses goyf, you can get very viable and competitive decks for way below $1000. Burn, u/r delver, scapeshift, Jeskai control/midrange, affinity, tron all cost way below $1000 for the usual list. There isn't any singles that is above $100 per card in current modern as well. The most expensive cards in modern beside goyf is liliana of the veil, vendilion clique, mox opal, dark confidant, cryptic command, karn liberated and a few others are all below $100.
And for lands, ever since KTK is out, prices of lands are never more than $50 per piece with the exception of only scalding tarn being the only current fetchland that cost more than $50 still and it is expected that the prices of Zen fetchlands will continue to go down as well since a reprint of the enemy color fetches should be coming soon.
And it is still possible to make rogue decks and still win in tournaments. Of course if you are talking about big tournaments such as GPT and GP then of course it is hard but in FMN and local LGS small tournaments, I dare says it is still possible to win though since not everyone will play competitive decks. I had friends who took decks that are fun like tribal decks of knights or goblins or other kind of rogue decks that we do not see and still win there and there but of course they did their homework beforehand and prepared abit.. They might not win 3-0 or 4-0 but getting 1 or 2 wins I still says everyone have a fair chance although using the known competitive decks do have higher chances to win more consistently..
Magic is a game of variance at the end so never says 1 can never win with an unknown deck or cheap decks especially since we have 2 cheap decks that is burn and delvers that fares well in general. lol..
Which would you recommend? Monastery Mentor is nice, but doesn't quite fit the game plan. If I wanted him, I'd probably just run the Young Pyromancer UR version. Soulfire Grand Master doesn't seem great with only 4 burn spells Valorous Stance would be the only one I'd really consider, as it's a great complementary removal to Bolt while also being able to protect Geist or Exarch/Mite from removal, but I'm not sure where I'd fit it.
I myself is intending to do back twin geist when FTR is out this week as well. my own current Geist midrange run 22 lands only but then I intend to up to 23 when I add in the twin combo and try to see how geist twin can work. Your list will be somewhat similar to me and I too have similar sentiments as well regarding fate. I will be trying out with valorous stance and as well as monastery siege. I would probably try a 2/2 split for stance and path.. I am kinda inclined to go less heavy on the combo though and load up more on instances so that it is easier for DTT.
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Such arguments are pretty pointless since generally neither both sides will be able to convince the other side even when data has obviously shown the power of certain cards.. not everyone thinks for the health of the format anyway at the end. Lol.
Do you guys get big card boxes and just keep them or just throw them all in a drawer and etc and do you guys sort them out or anything as well?
I already stated that I am not arguing about TC and about whether it should be banned. I'm only saying it is inaccurate to give the impression that alot of combo decks run TC when it is really just like 1 or 2 decks that really represent a very small % of the combo archetype and aren't even dominating or making results. IF you are saying alot of combo decks run EITHER TC or DTT then yes, you are correct.
And oh ya. I'm not trying to argue that TC is not good. I'm mainly trying to say that MOST combo decks don't want to run TC. A fringe combo decks that want to run it does not equate to "some" but very few. You are giving the impression that quite a few combo decks are using that card which is rather misleading and give a poor representation of the combo decks in general. No offence meant.
The only known combo decks that does run TC is mainly Jeskai ascendency and storm because of how their deck is built to use cards fast and even then they do not run 4 copies all the times. You really should read up more on combo decks before you make such a wrong statement regarding combo decks..
No offence but the information that you gave is wrong. Only a couple of decks in modern costs more than $1500 when running in their optimum stocklist. In the current top tier or proven section of modern, only Junk/Junk and RUG twin cost is around or more than $1500 and that is simply due to having that 1 card tarmogoyf which take up more than $800 for a playset. If you aren't going for goyf or those decks that uses goyf, you can get very viable and competitive decks for way below $1000. Burn, u/r delver, scapeshift, Jeskai control/midrange, affinity, tron all cost way below $1000 for the usual list. There isn't any singles that is above $100 per card in current modern as well. The most expensive cards in modern beside goyf is liliana of the veil, vendilion clique, mox opal, dark confidant, cryptic command, karn liberated and a few others are all below $100.
And for lands, ever since KTK is out, prices of lands are never more than $50 per piece with the exception of only scalding tarn being the only current fetchland that cost more than $50 still and it is expected that the prices of Zen fetchlands will continue to go down as well since a reprint of the enemy color fetches should be coming soon.
And it is still possible to make rogue decks and still win in tournaments. Of course if you are talking about big tournaments such as GPT and GP then of course it is hard but in FMN and local LGS small tournaments, I dare says it is still possible to win though since not everyone will play competitive decks. I had friends who took decks that are fun like tribal decks of knights or goblins or other kind of rogue decks that we do not see and still win there and there but of course they did their homework beforehand and prepared abit.. They might not win 3-0 or 4-0 but getting 1 or 2 wins I still says everyone have a fair chance although using the known competitive decks do have higher chances to win more consistently..
Magic is a game of variance at the end so never says 1 can never win with an unknown deck or cheap decks especially since we have 2 cheap decks that is burn and delvers that fares well in general. lol..
I myself is intending to do back twin geist when FTR is out this week as well. my own current Geist midrange run 22 lands only but then I intend to up to 23 when I add in the twin combo and try to see how geist twin can work. Your list will be somewhat similar to me and I too have similar sentiments as well regarding fate. I will be trying out with valorous stance and as well as monastery siege. I would probably try a 2/2 split for stance and path.. I am kinda inclined to go less heavy on the combo though and load up more on instances so that it is easier for DTT.