Quote from leslak »I m feeling kinda cheated
They said they would do better reprints cause of the feedback of commander 2018 but the reprints we are getting are of cards from 1-2 years ago, with luck 6 years ago... on a 30 years card game...
I mean, yes it is nice to see some of the Amonkhet split cards in there (cause they are cast from the graveyard), yes it is nice to have sun titan but why sun titan?... It feels almost criminal not including Catalyst Stone in the flashback deck... I mean, it was excepted cause we didn't get Dream Chisel and Ixidor, Reality Sculptor in the morph one.
It looks like they choose to not reprint some cards that they know are a must in this kind of decks. I know we won't be getting Doubling Season in the populate one, neither Primal Vigor or Parallel Lives... If we are luck we can get Anointed Procession...
I think the madness deck have the potential to be the best, mostly because there is not much quintessencial cards for a fair/begguing deck around the theme. This way they can reprint value and we will be happy because of it, while having new cards to make a non-existing theme possible. It will be nice if it has Big Game Hunter as a good value reprint, it will be nice if it has Call to the Netherworld, Violent Eruption as good cards to keep the deck in theme.
Come on Wizards, why no Master of the Veil+Weaver of Lies in the morph deck?
Why no Recoup+Altar of the Lost in the flashback deck?
I mean, if you don't want to reprint Catalyst Stone+Dream Chisel+Ixidor, Reality Sculptor then at least give the decks some playability out of the box. Remember that what made commander 2017 a sucess was not only the pushed commanders but the fact that the decks were playable out of the box, and outside of some obscure stack manipulation combo... the decks were almost complete and didn't need much in terms of old and hard to find cards.
For next year try to reprint cards in the theme along side the pricy cards.
(PS: Can you stop reprinting cards that are not even 3 years old, or cards that saw reprinting in that time period? i mean, outside of basic lands players don't like to see the same 0,20 card in every 5 new products released :\)
Quote from Ryperior74 »oh-boy just realized something
since this legendary theme might be casting creatures matter
you don't think were gonna get a panharmonicon esque card with the words "whenever casting a creature would cause a ability to trigger it triggers twice instead" if that happens never i mean never under any certomstance make it a colorless permanent that would make a emegency ban in edh because of the eldrazis being cast matters
Quote from SnowPlaneFan »Quote from KolbaneX »Quote from RxPhantom »The set may end up being good, but the flavor does not resonate with me, though. But that's okay. Not everything has to be for me. I have no reservations about the cards themselves. I'm sure they'll be fine.How does The Little Mermaid, Hansel & Gretel, King Arthur etc not resonate?
I mean, don't get me wrong, I really am glad that WoTC is willing to experiment and bounce around all over the place flavor-wise from the very dark and gritty and gruesome and adult themed to the opposite side of the spectrum and everything in between. VARIETY is a great thing. I'm glad they are willing to experiment with all sorts of different flavors and vibes of all different sorts.
That being said, given that there are like 10 million+ MTG players, several million of whom are adults, and with people of course having a wide variety of different personal tastes from one another, I'm surprised that people are surprised that a Little Mermaid/Hansel & Gretel/targeted-at-kindergarten-aged-children type of vibe/flavor wouldn't be what ALL MTG fans are personally into or really resonate with.
Just to be clear: I'm definitely NOT implying that whole tired/incorrect shtick about MTG itself being a just-for-little-kids game. Of course not. The opposite, if anything. Right from the very beginning onwards, it seemed to be targeted mostly towards teenagers-AND-OLDER (adults, included, that is) rather than extremely-young-children in the 4-year-old-to-7-year-old range which is more of what the Little Mermaid/Hansel & Gretel lines up with (there's always exceptions of course, but on average I mean). MTG seemed to be appealing to people a decade older than that sort of stuff, with a very PG-13/nearly-R rated vibe, with all its adult style grittiness and darkness and full blown gruesomeness and whatnot in large portions of lots of the sets. And its blatantly-not-just-for-little-kids vibe wasn't even JUST to do with the artwork of its black cards, for that matter, but even just the general tone of even the non-gruesome creatures/spells of all the other colors and artifacts as well. It just really had a relatively mature theme for a LOT of the cards, probably the majority of the cards, in most of the sets. And it was like that for a loooooooong time, only starting to shift a little bit towards being a bit tamer/younger-vibes in more recent years, and even then, still not to a Little Mermaid/Hansel & Gretel level of shift for the most part, other than the once in a blue moon sort of thing like with Lorwyn or something maybe.
This is a big part of why so many adults didn't age out of MTG over the years/decades, even though many of us did age out of stuff like The Little Mermaid/Hansel & Gretel types of fairy tales/nursery rhymes as we grew out of young childhood and became teenagers/adults, by comparison.
I mean, if you just go back and look at the vibe of the card art in sets like Tempest and Stronghold for example, let alone basically all of the sets of the early 2000s, it's SERIOUSLY pretty dark and gritty, like not even just PG-13 but flirting with almost being R-rated level of dark and gritty for a lot of it. You can browse the card art from those sets on scryfall, or your collection if you collected back then if you forgot what these sets used to look like for much of MTG through the years. Even the earliest sets, which grabbed up about 5 or 6 million MTG fans (many of whom are still arouund) in those first couple years for that matter were far from being all that light and cutesy for the most part, even if it did get even a bit darker and gritter-yet in the next few years after that, on average.
But, here's the thing, though. Just like Kolbane said he's totally cool with this, even if it doesn't happen to personally resonate with him, well, I feel the same way, in that regard. That's the double-edged sword of variety. But it's a double-edged sword that is totally WORTH IT. You win some, you lose some, but at least you get tons of variety, which is fun in and of itself, let alone meaning that it doesn't get stuck on ONE thing over and over that you DON'T like (or like but then get bored of eventually), and then you're just permanently continuously stuck with that. At least with variety you'll have something to love some significant percentage of the time, and so will everyone else, some percentage of the time. So yea, that's cool, and I'm glad they are willing to experiment with all sorts of different stuff like they do.
Anyway, I'm (honestly) glad that you and the others who like Fairy Tale types of flavor are going to get to enjoy the set. I know how pumped I get when a new set is coming out that DOES resonates with me, I've gotten the chance to experience that numerous times over the years, myself, so, I definitely know how fun and exciting that is. So yea, by all means, enjoy!
Quote from KolbaneX »Quote from RxPhantom »The set may end up being good, but the flavor does not resonate with me, though. But that's okay. Not everything has to be for me. I have no reservations about the cards themselves. I'm sure they'll be fine.How does The Little Mermaid, Hansel & Gretel, King Arthur etc not resonate?
Quote from RxPhantom »The set may end up being good, but the flavor does not resonate with me, though. But that's okay. Not everything has to be for me. I have no reservations about the cards themselves. I'm sure they'll be fine.
Quote from Flisch »Isn't it weird how much tribal we got in Modern Horizons and now M20? I would think it's because the upcoming set has a big tribal component, but Modern Masters doesn't even affect that, so... Is it just some new approach to make the game more beginner-friendly? I'm not even sure if I like it or not, and this coems from someone who loves tribal. It's just so strange.
Quote from TwinfrodoPhoenix »Is this going to get banhamered in EDH lol. Super powerful.