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  • posted a message on {C19} Mystic intelect full deck list + command zone preview card - Elsha of the Infinite
    Quote from leslak »
    I m feeling kinda cheated Frown
    They said they would do better reprints cause of the feedback of commander 2018 but the reprints we are getting are of cards from 1-2 years ago, with luck 6 years ago... on a 30 years card game...

    I mean, yes it is nice to see some of the Amonkhet split cards in there (cause they are cast from the graveyard), yes it is nice to have sun titan but why sun titan?... It feels almost criminal not including Catalyst Stone in the flashback deck... I mean, it was excepted cause we didn't get Dream Chisel and Ixidor, Reality Sculptor in the morph one.

    It looks like they choose to not reprint some cards that they know are a must in this kind of decks. I know we won't be getting Doubling Season in the populate one, neither Primal Vigor or Parallel Lives... If we are luck we can get Anointed Procession...

    I think the madness deck have the potential to be the best, mostly because there is not much quintessencial cards for a fair/begguing deck around the theme. This way they can reprint value and we will be happy because of it, while having new cards to make a non-existing theme possible. It will be nice if it has Big Game Hunter as a good value reprint, it will be nice if it has Call to the Netherworld, Violent Eruption as good cards to keep the deck in theme.

    Come on Wizards, why no Master of the Veil+Weaver of Lies in the morph deck?
    Why no Recoup+Altar of the Lost in the flashback deck?

    I mean, if you don't want to reprint Catalyst Stone+Dream Chisel+Ixidor, Reality Sculptor then at least give the decks some playability out of the box. Remember that what made commander 2017 a sucess was not only the pushed commanders but the fact that the decks were playable out of the box, and outside of some obscure stack manipulation combo... the decks were almost complete and didn't need much in terms of old and hard to find cards.

    For next year try to reprint cards in the theme along side the pricy cards.
    (PS: Can you stop reprinting cards that are not even 3 years old, or cards that saw reprinting in that time period? i mean, outside of basic lands players don't like to see the same 0,20 card in every 5 new products released :\)
    I'd assume Dream Chisel isn't in the deck because it already has a commander that gives you a free morph per turn. You also have to be careful with cards like it and Catalyst Stone in decks built with very strong commanders for the theme like these. We already have a Future Sight and free morph + they all cantrip. Now, madness does have a machine gun commander, but I don't remember it having crazy amounts of card advantage or anything like flashback. If you're trying to share the commander experience with new players, you certainly don't want the decks to be capable of just rocketing out and blowing up a game out of nowhere. Making your stuff cost less sounds fine until it starts being worth 10 mana in a single turn or something. I had a standard flashback deck back in Innistrad and it got really stupid really quick and took extraordinarily long turns. You want the decks to have powerful commanders that can be strong if that's what you're into, but the default shouldn't be rocket launcher.

    Now, as for doubling season effects, I don't expect them because they're just not as good with populate decks. Populate wants impressive tokens where you're spending a lot more mana per token where doubling seasons would want to be in a deck like Ghave where you're spamming 1/1 or 0/1 tokens to hit an Overrun. You can get more mileage out of populate cards and Growing Ranks is a super cheap card. Infact, that burn spell we saw will quite possibly get you more tokens in one turn than a doubling season will total.

    Ixidor probably isn't in because he just isn't that good. Master of the Veil feels pretty situational and Weaver of Lies has too much potential to just generate way too much value with the right setup.

    Recoup just isn't as good in a deck with a lot of flashback. I'd be more likely to put it in the populate or madness deck. They have lots of nice spells that probably don't have flashback.

    Edit: Yeah, looking at the decklist, making all your flashback costs 2 less can get out of hand way too quickly, especially drawing all those cards, having a future sight in the command zone, and you already have that jace cost reduction. The deck has a multiple ways to make your spells cantrip as well as quite a lot of draw. Do you really want a precon to pull something stupid like drawing 4 cards for UU off the top of your library? They did a 2 mana cost reduction a few years ago but it was giant tribal and let you play 1 giant a couple turns early. It was effectively a sol ring not the amount of stupid that would happen here. It isn't always just about monetary value. They specifically don't want the decks to pull anything too stupid either and that's what I suspect would happen if you jammed Cloudstone Curio into the morph deck. I also don't think Thousand Winds or Skinthinner would be so much fun to get hit with the 5th time.
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  • posted a message on Brawl 2019 - Chulane, Teller of Tales
    Quote from Ryperior74 »
    oh-boy just realized something

    since this legendary theme might be casting creatures matter

    you don't think were gonna get a panharmonicon esque card with the words "whenever casting a creature would cause a ability to trigger it triggers twice instead" if that happens never i mean never under any certomstance make it a colorless permanent that would make a emegency ban in edh because of the eldrazis being cast matters
    I seriously doubt a cast trigger doubler would even be printed outside an eldrazi set. Eldrazi and card draw for casting creatures are the only examples I can immediately think of that even work with it. Most triggers are enters the battlefield, dies, or phase based. We're more likely to see upkeep trigger doubling which was basically done in time spiral by a card that gives you a second upkeep.
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  • posted a message on Major changes to Magic announced at SDCC? (New booster variants and premium styles)
    Collector's booster probably doesn't impact the average player much at all. I know a couple that really love to pimp their collection, including one that got all the expiditions, but most players will probably ignore it like every other super flashy special foil thing.
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  • posted a message on Major changes to Magic announced at SDCC? (New booster variants and premium styles)
    Well, if you feel you must collect all versions of all cards, it probably sucks for you. If you take a more realistic approach, though, it makes it easier to collect all of a certain subset such as regular version or even foil version since the pull rate for foil is higher and there are competing pimpness treatments with the other options being likely better for competitive decks due to the foil problem.
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  • posted a message on Next set is called "Throne of Eldraine"
    Quote from SnowPlaneFan »
    Quote from KolbaneX »
    Quote from RxPhantom »
    The set may end up being good, but the flavor does not resonate with me, though. But that's okay. Not everything has to be for me. I have no reservations about the cards themselves. I'm sure they'll be fine.
    How does The Little Mermaid, Hansel & Gretel, King Arthur etc not resonate?

    I mean, don't get me wrong, I really am glad that WoTC is willing to experiment and bounce around all over the place flavor-wise from the very dark and gritty and gruesome and adult themed to the opposite side of the spectrum and everything in between. VARIETY is a great thing. I'm glad they are willing to experiment with all sorts of different flavors and vibes of all different sorts.

    That being said, given that there are like 10 million+ MTG players, several million of whom are adults, and with people of course having a wide variety of different personal tastes from one another, I'm surprised that people are surprised that a Little Mermaid/Hansel & Gretel/targeted-at-kindergarten-aged-children type of vibe/flavor wouldn't be what ALL MTG fans are personally into or really resonate with.

    Just to be clear: I'm definitely NOT implying that whole tired/incorrect shtick about MTG itself being a just-for-little-kids game. Of course not. The opposite, if anything. Right from the very beginning onwards, it seemed to be targeted mostly towards teenagers-AND-OLDER (adults, included, that is) rather than extremely-young-children in the 4-year-old-to-7-year-old range which is more of what the Little Mermaid/Hansel & Gretel lines up with (there's always exceptions of course, but on average I mean). MTG seemed to be appealing to people a decade older than that sort of stuff, with a very PG-13/nearly-R rated vibe, with all its adult style grittiness and darkness and full blown gruesomeness and whatnot in large portions of lots of the sets. And its blatantly-not-just-for-little-kids vibe wasn't even JUST to do with the artwork of its black cards, for that matter, but even just the general tone of even the non-gruesome creatures/spells of all the other colors and artifacts as well. It just really had a relatively mature theme for a LOT of the cards, probably the majority of the cards, in most of the sets. And it was like that for a loooooooong time, only starting to shift a little bit towards being a bit tamer/younger-vibes in more recent years, and even then, still not to a Little Mermaid/Hansel & Gretel level of shift for the most part, other than the once in a blue moon sort of thing like with Lorwyn or something maybe.

    This is a big part of why so many adults didn't age out of MTG over the years/decades, even though many of us did age out of stuff like The Little Mermaid/Hansel & Gretel types of fairy tales/nursery rhymes as we grew out of young childhood and became teenagers/adults, by comparison.

    I mean, if you just go back and look at the vibe of the card art in sets like Tempest and Stronghold for example, let alone basically all of the sets of the early 2000s, it's SERIOUSLY pretty dark and gritty, like not even just PG-13 but flirting with almost being R-rated level of dark and gritty for a lot of it. You can browse the card art from those sets on scryfall, or your collection if you collected back then if you forgot what these sets used to look like for much of MTG through the years. Even the earliest sets, which grabbed up about 5 or 6 million MTG fans (many of whom are still arouund) in those first couple years for that matter were far from being all that light and cutesy for the most part, even if it did get even a bit darker and gritter-yet in the next few years after that, on average.

    But, here's the thing, though. Just like Kolbane said he's totally cool with this, even if it doesn't happen to personally resonate with him, well, I feel the same way, in that regard. That's the double-edged sword of variety. But it's a double-edged sword that is totally WORTH IT. You win some, you lose some, but at least you get tons of variety, which is fun in and of itself, let alone meaning that it doesn't get stuck on ONE thing over and over that you DON'T like (or like but then get bored of eventually), and then you're just permanently continuously stuck with that. At least with variety you'll have something to love some significant percentage of the time, and so will everyone else, some percentage of the time. So yea, that's cool, and I'm glad they are willing to experiment with all sorts of different stuff like they do.

    Anyway, I'm (honestly) glad that you and the others who like Fairy Tale types of flavor are going to get to enjoy the set. I know how pumped I get when a new set is coming out that DOES resonates with me, I've gotten the chance to experience that numerous times over the years, myself, so, I definitely know how fun and exciting that is. So yea, by all means, enjoy!
    I would reserve judgment for now. You might even be getting your R rated, adult themed set. The real Grimm stories are quite horrifying unlike the sanitized children's versions. Depending on where they go, it might make kaladesh the set look like the sanitized magic set by comparison.The real stories are very dark and veer toward calculated murder, suicide, sexual themes, etc. It could be one of the most R rated sets magic has done recently. We already, for example, see goldilocks slaughter the 3 bears and make them into trophies. It could even get as rapey as some of the art of innistrad first trip suggested. I wouldn't count on Disney version or even the relatively sanitized ixalan block where they glossed over things like rape and slavery. Depending on where they go and how it's received, it might even color wild west world that's on the short list. Its been pretty well spelled out that there won't be racist elements, but I personally wouldn't be surprised if we possibly see adult themes like prostitution that haven't been touched since Magic's early days. Being marketed toward an older audience than, say the new transformers card game, they might even want to try out some adult themes. Now, that doesn't mean it has to be sexist, though. Just like how Magic ramped up the hunky guy art, there's no reason we can't have guys be the damsel in distress role, prostitute themselves, be drugged and raped by women, etc. That's how you truly avoid being racist, sexist, etc.
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  • posted a message on Embodiment of Agonies (Amaz Preview)
    Split cards have 2 mana costs. Its that the total cmc is the total and they only have one mana cost on the stack because you're only casting half. It's pretty decent with split cards and silly with the 5 split card in silver border land. It's not broken or anything but it sure could be big if you can cast it in dredge.
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  • posted a message on Gargos, Vicious Warden and Cavalier of Squall (storms?)
    Quote from Flisch »
    Isn't it weird how much tribal we got in Modern Horizons and now M20? I would think it's because the upcoming set has a big tribal component, but Modern Masters doesn't even affect that, so... Is it just some new approach to make the game more beginner-friendly? I'm not even sure if I like it or not, and this coems from someone who loves tribal. It's just so strange.
    If you read mark Rosewater's blog, most requests are for tribal cards. Its simply filling requests that aren't problematic. The hydra, for example, functions quite well as a hydra lord, heroic lord, or generic beat stick.
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  • posted a message on Vilis, Broker of Blood
    Is this going to get banhamered in EDH lol. Super powerful.
    Why exactly? It's an 8 drop that. can draw cards in a 2 card combo or deter attacking you. There's plenty of 2 card combos that win the game, not just draw some cards. Now, it can draw at a decent rate with its ability, but that costs mana.
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  • posted a message on [M20] Scheming Symmetry - Andrea Mengucci Twitter
    It doesn't get around hexproof or shroud. This is a targeted spell. It says target.
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  • posted a message on [MH1] - Arcum's Astrolabe - gamelegends.it
    I'm pretty sure it can because snow is generic. Its just an indicator for mana from a snow permanent.
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  • posted a message on Coldhide(?) Golem (Spanish Twitter)
    Its not really even that innovative. The reason they didn't do it in Cold snap is because of a standard card that added mana to your mana pool equal to enchanted permanent's mana cost. Snow in the cost wouldn't make snow mana because snow isn't a type of mana like colorless is. It means mana from a snow supertype permanent. Splice onto instant and sorcery is a little innovative as well. This isn't the core set. If you can't figure out snow in the mana cost, the untap symbol, or something like that, modern horizons isn't a set for that person. They're not introducing any brand new keywords or doing anything weird just to be weird like tapping enchantments, special land equipment, cards that do weird un set type things, etc. This and the rock are simply cards you cast for mana like any other card. It has a few abnormal corner cases, but it's otherwise a normal magic card.
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  • posted a message on Coldhide(?) Golem (Spanish Twitter)
    Extremely novel is really weird stuff like force of savagery or bridge from below. This is simply a grizzly bear you play in snow decks. It doesn't make you do anything really weird to make it a playable card.
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  • posted a message on Mox Tantalite Twitch TV stream
    Realistically, how many modern playable cards would anyone want to enter the format at once? I thought the whole point of modern was to have a non rotating format that's free from the reserved list. If we got a modern horizons set every year or two that injects 50 cards into the format, it's effectively just standard where your old ***** is technically still playable. That's like yugioh where there's really one format where 99.99% of cards are "playable" but realistically there's maybe a standard worth of unbanned cards you can play at a tournament without looking silly.

    As for the card, its a rampant growth for non green commander that people have been begging Mark rosewater for. I doubt they are going to print a mox diamond/chrome for modern. They want the format to be reasonably slow unlike legacy.
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  • posted a message on [MH1] Force of Negation
    I really think it's better than force of will. Now, is it better in 100% of cases? No, it's not but force of will is kind of bad in lots of cases too. Exiling a blue card from your hand is a seriously heavy cost and this can be reasonably cast for mana instead. It also exiles which is big. Yeah, there are a few 100% creature combos and just a couple that can be played when it isn't your turn (barring something that lets you cast anything as an instant) but the vast majority of things that you would really want force for are noncreature anyway and most things you'd want to counter on your turn are better handled with a flusterstorm, negate, etc. anyway. Force of will is a catch all answer like a swiss army knife, but you also pay through the nose in either mana or 2 for 1 for it too. It certainly has its place, but if you're playing one in commander, I expect you'll want both. After all, you're probably seriously in blue and are probably running a suite of counters anyway.
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  • posted a message on God-Eternal Oketra
    She makes zombie tokens and we have a lot of zombie tokens get [ability].
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