Yuck. One of friends (female) got randomly asked out by this guy a while ago. He's a senior and she's a freshman, so them going out is more than a little odd. Today was her birthday, and he got her this necklace and earrings, and I'm worrying because he's known her for like 3 days. Either he's totally smitten with her, or he has ulterior motives, in which case...Plus, he's more than a little attractive, and he's on my water polo team, so I get a free show every day or so. Speedos are...difficult to get on under certain circumstances . He seems like a nice guy, though, so I'm trying not to worry about my friend. Ah well...must go, English essays don't write themselves *phases out*
So you are religious, Tesh? Being a member of this clan has helped me smash many myths of being gay. Among them is the myth (which I thought made perfect sense) that gay people are not religious, by and large.
It's a sad commentary that I held this view, mainly because of the skewed view I perceived that Christians hold towards people who are homosexual. When I learn of homosexual Christians, my mind goes: "OMFG WTF HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE?!?!?11/!??"
However, the intolerant views of the religious establishment is actually held by a minority of Christians.
It is good to have you, Teshevair.
Thanks! It's good to be here too. Actually, a lot of the stuff that the religious right quotes to attack homosexuality is in the old testament, or is in the works by the apostles in the New Testament. In the Gospel (which I personally consider to be most true to what Jesus wants for us), again and again the point is made that all are welcome, even those rejected by society. A lot of the time, the example of the tax collector is used (they were essentially the Antichrist of the time.) I personally believe that a lot of what is written in the Bible was designed to make sense to the people of the time. Unfortunately, it hasn't been updated...but you can extrapolate the meanings if you look at it the right way. Following word-for-word a Book that, while the writers may have been God-touched, they were still human, seems like a bad idea to me. So I do my best to reconcile my Christianity, my bleeding-heart liberalism, and recently, my sexuality. It's a bit of a balancing act, but I manage.
I spoke with him on AIM, he apologized and said he didnt mean it that way. Everything is cool.
Also, most people are seriously confused about Christianity(especialy those who follow it), Id like to apologize on behalf of them in there ignorance.
Strange. It's so weird to be a fairly devout Catholic who just figured out he was gay. The funny thing is that in theory, Christianity a very tolerant religion. The most important thing is to love everyone equally. And yet a lot of Christians are really, really, REALLY intolerant, like our dear president. I don't get what God he follows, because 90% of the time it sure isn't mine.
Speaking of physics homework, thank god I'm still in conceptual physics. It's like taking physics without the calculus and all the math. Senior year is really going to suck, though, because I'm in ad-math and my mom really wants me to do the high-end science courses.
All this Rav stuff is going completely over my head. I really should read the spoiler on the main site. I've been kind of distracted...
Shame I'm going to have to wait for the U/R guild. (Izzet, I think?) I remember having a B/R pinging deck when I first started, which was right around Apocalypse. Ah, Invasion block...I hardly knew ye...They had Quicksilver Dagger back then, which was fun to use. Sofi's a lot better, but it's expensive, and Mirrodin's rotating out in two weeks or so anyway. Those U/B mill decks look like fun. So...do you think that people will make guild-themed decks, or will they mix and match guilds to make decks?
Don't worry, I can find it. Well, I somehow managed to feel like the same person all day. Except that I was not very smart most of the day. I forgot one piece of physics homework (though I don't think the teacher noticed...I did it in pen during class), did the wrong problems for the other piece of physics homework, and got an iffy grade on my first math quiz of the year. Yuck. Luckily my day got better from there. Some people organized a Super Smash Bros. (the N64 version) tournament to raise money for the Red Cross. I didn't get to play, but watching was fun, and I played some after school. French was fine, World Cultures was godly (we have an awesome teacher), and water polo practice was...interesting, as usual.
By the way, I've sort of been missing out of the Gamers part of this thread...I really want to do Magic Online 'cause getting to tournaments is a pain for me (and because finding people to play with is a pain), but my parents probably won't let me. Internet safety, not talking to people you don't know and all that. Most of the people at my school like playing Odyssey Block Constructed because we all started right around then, and they occaisionally have tournaments. I'm an okay player, I use a GWU Solitary Confinement /Genesis lock, with mill from Ambassador Laquatus for the win. Usually second game my deck sideboards itself into a U/G Madness deck, which is fun. Ravnica's got me excited, I love the setting and the art is godly. The preview card today on MTG.com is cool. I really should look at the spoiler on the main site here, but I never have time.
I don't know exactly. If I understood it, I might not disapprove of it. It's the "I am so much more street than you. So much stronger than you. I will fight any time, any place, and I like to pretend that I have no feelings." That's my general impression. Of course, as I don't understand it at all, I could be wrong. Most of what I understand is that it feels alienating.
If you find yourself sexually attracted to men and not to women, then you should not attempt to force yourself to change. And vice verse.
Force myself to change? I never saw the point in changing myself to suit others before, but...I don't really understand what all these things are. Some people I knew...if they found out that I was attracted to males, they would despise me. This includes family members. Though fortunately my parents are open-minded.
The part that makes me feel the worst is that some people have said, over the years, that I was gya because I acted the way that I did. Singing, high voice, skinny and somewhat effeminate. So I worry about fulfilling stereotypes, and then I don't really know what to do.
"I've watched you from my window,
I saw you on the day that you arrived,
Perhaps it was the way you walked,
the way you spoke to your men,
You were different then,
You were kind and good,
I thought you understood.
-they hear drums, you hear music,
As do I. Don't you see?
We're the same. We are different,
You and I are different,
They hear only drums!
All the time I watched from my room, I would
think of coming downstairs!
Thinking we'd meet! Thinking you'd look at me,
thinking you'd be repeled by what you saw.
Don't reject me, don't deny me, Captain.
Understand me, be my friend.
They hear drums, we hear music,
-be my friend."
One of the most beautiful passages from Sondheim's Passion. It seemed appropriate somehow.
I have watched this thread for a while. I've tried to understand all of you, and I decided to walk in.
The fact is, that while I seem attacted to males, I don't like the whole macho thing. I have some guy friends, and some girl friends, but since I realized my problem women haven't seemed repellant or anything. I can still appreciate female beauty, but it's no more sexually exciting then it ever was, that is, not at all. I just don't really know what to do, so I posted. And I must admit, this is rather frightening, to say all this to strangers. I guess anononymity lends courage. "Don't reject me, don't deny me..."
Excuse me for my hesitation. I am Teshevair, and I have no idea what I'm doing here.
Perhaps I should start with myself.
I'm a high schooler. I have never been particularly attracted to 'manly' pursuits such as oversize males violently slamming into each other like so many billiard balls. Rather, I am a classically trained singer and pianist. I have an unusual accent to my speaking my voice, a large vocabulary, an occasionally clueless disposition, and no idea how to connect with 80% of the males in my class. Recently, I began playing water polo, and I began to especially notice that the male body fascinates me. So here I am with few male friends, a very un-macho attitude, and an attraction to men. Coming upon this site in links from the Wizards forums, I also came upon the link to this clan. And so you see my predicament.
...I've said too much again. Please excuse the gush factor.
Perhaps I should also mention that some of the members of my water polo team are also ... 'out there', shall we say. As in, they might not be homosexual, but they certainly seem to be imitating all the stereotypes. And then I see you people, and I can't but be curious. Again, I apologize. I really don't understand these things, let alone talking about this with people I barely know.
Yuck. One of friends (female) got randomly asked out by this guy a while ago. He's a senior and she's a freshman, so them going out is more than a little odd. Today was her birthday, and he got her this necklace and earrings, and I'm worrying because he's known her for like 3 days. Either he's totally smitten with her, or he has ulterior motives, in which case...Plus, he's more than a little attractive, and he's on my water polo team, so I get a free show every day or so. Speedos are...difficult to get on under certain circumstances
Thanks!
Strange. It's so weird to be a fairly devout Catholic who just figured out he was gay. The funny thing is that in theory, Christianity a very tolerant religion. The most important thing is to love everyone equally. And yet a lot of Christians are really, really, REALLY intolerant, like our dear president. I don't get what God he follows, because 90% of the time it sure isn't mine.
Speaking of physics homework, thank god I'm still in conceptual physics. It's like taking physics without the calculus and all the math. Senior year is really going to suck, though, because I'm in ad-math and my mom really wants me to do the high-end science courses.
Shame I'm going to have to wait for the U/R guild. (Izzet, I think?) I remember having a B/R pinging deck when I first started, which was right around Apocalypse. Ah, Invasion block...I hardly knew ye...They had Quicksilver Dagger back then, which was fun to use. Sofi's a lot better, but it's expensive, and Mirrodin's rotating out in two weeks or so anyway. Those U/B mill decks look like fun. So...do you think that people will make guild-themed decks, or will they mix and match guilds to make decks?
By the way, I've sort of been missing out of the Gamers part of this thread...I really want to do Magic Online 'cause getting to tournaments is a pain for me (and because finding people to play with is a pain), but my parents probably won't let me. Internet safety, not talking to people you don't know and all that. Most of the people at my school like playing Odyssey Block Constructed because we all started right around then, and they occaisionally have tournaments. I'm an okay player, I use a GWU Solitary Confinement /Genesis lock, with mill from Ambassador Laquatus for the win. Usually second game my deck sideboards itself into a U/G Madness deck, which is fun. Ravnica's got me excited, I love the setting and the art is godly. The preview card today on MTG.com is cool. I really should look at the spoiler on the main site here, but I never have time.
I just realized.
I just came out. (Sort of, anyway)
On the internet!
How very anticlimactic. Perhaps that has something to do with being exhausted.
I think I need to go to sleep now. This will probably hit me in the morning.
Thank you all. Even if you don't know it, you have helped me. Just reading you guys has helped me.
(On a side note, I think I feel less emo now.)
Force myself to change? I never saw the point in changing myself to suit others before, but...I don't really understand what all these things are. Some people I knew...if they found out that I was attracted to males, they would despise me. This includes family members. Though fortunately my parents are open-minded.
The part that makes me feel the worst is that some people have said, over the years, that I was gya because I acted the way that I did. Singing, high voice, skinny and somewhat effeminate. So I worry about fulfilling stereotypes, and then I don't really know what to do.
This is making me feel really depressed and emo.
I saw you on the day that you arrived,
Perhaps it was the way you walked,
the way you spoke to your men,
You were different then,
You were kind and good,
I thought you understood.
-they hear drums, you hear music,
As do I. Don't you see?
We're the same. We are different,
You and I are different,
They hear only drums!
All the time I watched from my room, I would
think of coming downstairs!
Thinking we'd meet! Thinking you'd look at me,
thinking you'd be repeled by what you saw.
Don't reject me, don't deny me, Captain.
Understand me, be my friend.
They hear drums, we hear music,
-be my friend."
One of the most beautiful passages from Sondheim's Passion. It seemed appropriate somehow.
I have watched this thread for a while. I've tried to understand all of you, and I decided to walk in.
The fact is, that while I seem attacted to males, I don't like the whole macho thing. I have some guy friends, and some girl friends, but since I realized my problem women haven't seemed repellant or anything. I can still appreciate female beauty, but it's no more sexually exciting then it ever was, that is, not at all. I just don't really know what to do, so I posted. And I must admit, this is rather frightening, to say all this to strangers. I guess anononymity lends courage. "Don't reject me, don't deny me..."
Perhaps I should start with myself.
I'm a high schooler. I have never been particularly attracted to 'manly' pursuits such as oversize males violently slamming into each other like so many billiard balls. Rather, I am a classically trained singer and pianist. I have an unusual accent to my speaking my voice, a large vocabulary, an occasionally clueless disposition, and no idea how to connect with 80% of the males in my class. Recently, I began playing water polo, and I began to especially notice that the male body fascinates me. So here I am with few male friends, a very un-macho attitude, and an attraction to men. Coming upon this site in links from the Wizards forums, I also came upon the link to this clan. And so you see my predicament.
...I've said too much again. Please excuse the gush factor.
Perhaps I should also mention that some of the members of my water polo team are also ... 'out there', shall we say. As in, they might not be homosexual, but they certainly seem to be imitating all the stereotypes. And then I see you people, and I can't but be curious. Again, I apologize. I really don't understand these things, let alone talking about this with people I barely know.