Well locking down their stuff with Ajani is pretty good, and they need to attack to win so bridge seems great too. Could be alright moving forward. HAHA I am sure this would not eat a ban
I am sure 90% of the deck is safe, I am just scared about the SSG into Chalice @ 1 on turn 1, or the RARE Blood Moon turn one, and/or SUPER rare Ajani turn 1/2, as these don't help either.. Honestly, other than that, no part of the deck is near broken, but without that start, I feel the deck loses quite a lot of power. It made me tremble when I saw the Eldrazi decks that included SSG and Chalice. I hope nothing arises out of it.
Looks pretty cool, I think I'll save this as something to work on in addition to some of the other decks I am looking at
NOOOOO, don't make the deck popular and make it have a ban!!! J/K of course. While the deck is fun, I have found it is only good when you know the meta of your LGS and can tailor it to your meta. Other than that, I took the deck to a top 8 finish at a GP Trial...I came 7 out of 15. So, not impressive, lol. I am not sure of the Eldrazi match up, only because no one at my LGS plays it.
A Dega (Mardu...I guess) build with Boom//Bust, Flagstones of Trokair, and 4 SSG, MIGHT be enough, I guess. I have shied away from such builds in my deck, just because of the power (and non-bo with Flagstones) of Blood Moon.
I actually like the sound of this deck quite a bit, any chance of a list for us to look at? I am open to all strategies now to deal with these eldrazis to try and combat them
Right off the top of my head:
4 Blood Moon
4 Leyline of Sanctity
3 Temple of Triumph
1 Rugged Prairie
11 Plains
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Ensnaring Bridge
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Assemble the Legion
4 Ajani Vengeant
2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
4 Clifftop Retreat
4 Ghostly Prison
1 Gideon Jura
4 Lightning Helix
The list is always in flux, though.
EDIT: I even thought about Chancellor of the Tangle, because I do not get near enough turn 1 3/4 drop starts, but there is no way to get rid of them from your hand, thus they are wasted with bridges. Still, the deck is weak to 0/x creatures. Believe it or not, I have lost to more than 1 BoP with Kessig Wolf Run...
If you only wanted to beat Eldrazi you'd probably play RW prison/land destruction. Boom/Bust, Fulminators, Ghostly Prison, Leyline, Runed Halo, Ajani Vengeant, etc. The problem is though that a lot of your other MU's would be crap, unlike the Eldrazi decks where many of their MU's are really good, and they only have a few suspect MU's that can be worked around if you wanted..I've always thought that UW Eldrazi is probably the best place to be with Drowners/Displacers/Path in the MB, and you get very powerful hate cards like Stony Silence, Rest in Peace, etc. out of the board.
For me though, Modern is a dead format. It is the epitome of Magic the Hearthstoning.
I play R/W Lockdown, a deck my wife built with SSG, Chalice, Blood Moon, Ghostly Prison, Ensnaring Bridge, Leyline of Sanctity, etc, that uses Ajani, Assemble the Legion, and Gideon Jura, as win conditions. I WISH that more Eldrazi showed up at my LGS. I might do good against them.
If it does, then I just have to decide if I want to play Crack the Earth and Mana Tithe instead of Chalice and/or SSG.
I don't usually play gravehate other than Leyline of the Void myself, as it stops my bridges getting nuked.
What do you mean?
I might be completely wrong, due to being new to the deck, but I assume he means something along the lines of: Your opponent cannot bolt their own delver to exile bridge from below, due to LotV being a replacement effect and cancelling it out. So I assume he means that LotV can prevent your bridges from getting wrecked by an opponent saccing or self-destructing one of their own creatures to destroy them.
Well, thank you for bringing this to my attention in another thread, Kathal! Glad to see some extra information here that I didn't even think of, I was pretty stuck in a plain B/U build, that almost never won, because I just kept trying to make a control deck that had a combo finish.
Well, I am still trying to find a viable way to make spellweaver helix, demonic pact, and raven's crime work. I mean, it is just 2 black cards and one colorless card, but I have found no way to make it good...probably due to the amount of decks that play Abrupt Decay.
EDIT: Oh, NVM. Kathal already pointed it out. My bad. And thank you, Kathal, for that link, I was wondering when it would become something.
Because they can create copies during your end step, which enter tapped, and don't leave until THEIR end step. The combo is slowed down, but only by 1 turn.
I didn't think getting fifth would increase one card's price so much. I hate to say it, but I am seriously considering selling out of modern and going back to standard...or just getting out of the game entirely. I have WAY too much money invested into MTG and I believe it is either in a bubble, or is about to be, and I cannot justify holding so much value in cardboard that, less than a month ago was worth 1/20 what it is now (multiple copies of cards spiking, and decks that do not put up the results their individual card prices are warranting).
I am almost positive that they confirmed that the only 5 walkers in Magic Origins are the planeswalkers that they are focusing on and that they will all be monocolored.
I personally want a 4 mana Gideon that is actually playable.
Woah, woah. Gideon is playable, but only in certain decks. Asking for a 4 mana Gideon that is playable seems super greedy to me! (Sarcasm Implied).
I am hoping for an, at least decent, Gideon. I would be SUPER HAPPY if he was 4 mana and was at least half as powerful as Gideon Jura, but I am not holding my breath.
If decks like Splinter Twin became cheaper to build Dark Confidant would rise again. Maybe Modern Masters 2 will be enough to do it (though I do not expect it, as Twin is a mythic).
But Splinter Twin is a rare in MM2015? I do believe the price will definitely drop some, leading to more and more players playing the deck.
My favorite moment was when I was playing B/W Tokens at my LGS and my opponent was playing combo elves. I had to keep mulling, and I went down to 2.
My hand was a Ghost Quarter and a Zealous Persecution. Turn one, I was on the draw and drew a Lingering Souls.
My opponent just kept casting mana dorks, but no buffers, so when I topdecked a swamp, I tapped my swamp for a black and ghost quartered it for a white. I cast Zealous, wiping his board and bought enough time to win the game. My opponent seemed super salty.
Haha. Someone actually did sideboard this card against my wife when she was playing my B/W Tokens deck last night at Modern. I didn't even know the name of the card! Talk about strange coincidences. Still, while the card seems okay if built around or against a VERY narrow field, I can't really think of any way it would ever see sideboard play, other than a deck that is green and folds to any flier....which doesn't seem very likely to me.
I am sure 90% of the deck is safe, I am just scared about the SSG into Chalice @ 1 on turn 1, or the RARE Blood Moon turn one, and/or SUPER rare Ajani turn 1/2, as these don't help either.. Honestly, other than that, no part of the deck is near broken, but without that start, I feel the deck loses quite a lot of power. It made me tremble when I saw the Eldrazi decks that included SSG and Chalice. I hope nothing arises out of it.
NOOOOO, don't make the deck popular and make it have a ban!!! J/K of course. While the deck is fun, I have found it is only good when you know the meta of your LGS and can tailor it to your meta. Other than that, I took the deck to a top 8 finish at a GP Trial...I came 7 out of 15. So, not impressive, lol. I am not sure of the Eldrazi match up, only because no one at my LGS plays it.
A Dega (Mardu...I guess) build with Boom//Bust, Flagstones of Trokair, and 4 SSG, MIGHT be enough, I guess. I have shied away from such builds in my deck, just because of the power (and non-bo with Flagstones) of Blood Moon.
Right off the top of my head:
4 Blood Moon
4 Leyline of Sanctity
3 Temple of Triumph
1 Rugged Prairie
11 Plains
4 Sacred Foundry
4 Ensnaring Bridge
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Chalice of the Void
2 Assemble the Legion
4 Ajani Vengeant
2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
4 Clifftop Retreat
4 Ghostly Prison
1 Gideon Jura
4 Lightning Helix
The list is always in flux, though.
EDIT: I even thought about Chancellor of the Tangle, because I do not get near enough turn 1 3/4 drop starts, but there is no way to get rid of them from your hand, thus they are wasted with bridges. Still, the deck is weak to 0/x creatures. Believe it or not, I have lost to more than 1 BoP with Kessig Wolf Run...
I play R/W Lockdown, a deck my wife built with SSG, Chalice, Blood Moon, Ghostly Prison, Ensnaring Bridge, Leyline of Sanctity, etc, that uses Ajani, Assemble the Legion, and Gideon Jura, as win conditions. I WISH that more Eldrazi showed up at my LGS. I might do good against them.
If it does, then I just have to decide if I want to play Crack the Earth and Mana Tithe instead of Chalice and/or SSG.
I might be completely wrong, due to being new to the deck, but I assume he means something along the lines of: Your opponent cannot bolt their own delver to exile bridge from below, due to LotV being a replacement effect and cancelling it out. So I assume he means that LotV can prevent your bridges from getting wrecked by an opponent saccing or self-destructing one of their own creatures to destroy them.
EDIT: Oh, NVM. Kathal already pointed it out. My bad. And thank you, Kathal, for that link, I was wondering when it would become something.
Woah, woah. Gideon is playable, but only in certain decks. Asking for a 4 mana Gideon that is playable seems super greedy to me! (Sarcasm Implied).
I am hoping for an, at least decent, Gideon. I would be SUPER HAPPY if he was 4 mana and was at least half as powerful as Gideon Jura, but I am not holding my breath.
But Splinter Twin is a rare in MM2015? I do believe the price will definitely drop some, leading to more and more players playing the deck.
My hand was a Ghost Quarter and a Zealous Persecution. Turn one, I was on the draw and drew a Lingering Souls.
My opponent just kept casting mana dorks, but no buffers, so when I topdecked a swamp, I tapped my swamp for a black and ghost quartered it for a white. I cast Zealous, wiping his board and bought enough time to win the game. My opponent seemed super salty.