Conditional cards such as this are good if a deck is played around them.
I see this card's drawback less troublesome than the drawback to the HIGHLY played with MUCH sucess card Covetous Dragon.
As people have been saying, there are MANY ways to make those three 2/2s no issue at all.
Cards like this stimulate deck design. They scream 'Make me better than I seem' 'Find a way to make the drawback on the card hurt your opponent MORE'...stuff like that.
I'd take Rathi Dragon or Covetous Dragon over this anyday.
Other than that,it's nice for a casual deck and has good flavor.
Agreed, especially from an aggressive standpoint. I would consider this crap in any non T2 or block formatt. It should have been four mana with the drawback. But it is a good standard/block card. Still, in newer environments, It can be seething songed into play and then hit you opponent for 6 before they can remove him(haste). Then, they might hit you for six. Remember though, that if both players take 6, who will win, the burn deck or the non-burn deck?
Although that inevitably begs the question: what is that intelligence and where did it come from? Was it itself designed by an even higher intelligence or did it just poof into existence? The fact that such unanswerable, unresearchable, and unknowable questions are so intrinsically linked to "intelligent design" means it makes a lot more sense in a philosophy or religion class than a science class.
Agreed, and if you think about it, science says that through enough time and randomness, life began. Whether God played a role in that randomn chance doesn't really change anything else about science from then on.
As for flying being out of flavour, I beg to disagree. Certainly green should never get any fat flyers outside cycles of dragons or whatever, but I think you'll find that flying insects and small birds are more part of nature (green) than part of the sky (blue). Take Dream Thrush for example - it was blue because blue is the tricky colour, but quite frankly a Thrush is a green creature. Therefore green should have small flyers, which are therefore cheap, and mana acceleration and fixing is an inherently green ability - so the "mighty" Bird is perfectly good as it is, thank you.
Right on! That is about what I was arguing before. Conceptually the birds are perfect. The text word "flying" seems a bit off for green, but it is needed to support the concept of birds in nature(a green, white, or blue thing).
As for the Jitte, that is the Jitte's fault not the bird, should we ban islands because of mana drain?
Birds would have not been in 8th if the powers that be had their way. Selecting 8th edition gave birds a stay of execution. They are getting one last huzzah in Ravnica, mostly cause they will fit in with the color fixing and thematically, since a W/G guild would have a place for a small flier that makes mana. but after ravnica rotates out of standard i do not see birds coming back. they go against how green is currently defined... with utopia tree being the 'fixed' birds. now if the colors shift again and small fliers become greens thing then the birds will return...but i don't see that happening.
Yeah, if there is any reason to murder the birds, it would have to be the new color wheel. Still, conceptually they fit green. I mean a birds from a forest paradise are not green? You mean there no birds in the forest we love to play and tap? Darkness is conceptually black as well (emerce the area in darkness so nobody can see anything).
R&D is too concerned with the text of the card than idea when it comes to the color wheel recently.
Curse you color wheel, why can't we go back to blue burn, green flying, and red card advantage, why...oh WHY!!!:crying: :crying::swear: :crying::swear: :mad1: (just kiding)
Still I have never been turned-on by a weird serpent-haired girl before................well, there is a first for everything......Lightning Angel and Voice of All are not the only ones I find cute anymore...:) 8^)
As for the churches, you are from Malaysia I see, well then compared to your country (or almost any other country..), I believe that the church here does have quite a good chunk of sway.
:fingers:
I was nine when I first started playing and bought decks. Goes to show that the disclamers on these things are always overaged. Besides, don't most products like magic that have disclamers have 12+ disclamers. Odd.
Precons are not to complicated, although all of Magic is(off course new pre-made decks only scrap the surface).
All of these flashy Ravnica girls are quite showy...very PG...:eek:
NOTE: when I typed in s.l.u.t.y, it appeared as ****y. Must have been censorship...
Sword Weilder to Bench Warmer W(W/R)(if this doesn't come out as guild mana, i just guessed so...
instant
Destroy target blocking creature, it's contoller gains life equal to it's toughness. If you spent WW, remove target attacking or blocking creature from the game, it's controller gains life equal to it's toughness.
more balanced, and it's a different twist on bleed spells
EDIT: got the destroy and remove backwards...fixed it though
Sword Weilder to Bench Warmer WW
Instant-U or R
Remove target attacking creature from the game, it's controller gains life equal to it's power or Remove target blocking creature from the game, it's controller gians life equal to it's toughness.
Seems symetrical in the life gain from the side you are removing from...
Seems fair two me, but WW is a bit harsh without guildmana in a color pair orientaded set.
Just ebcause it can be removed doesn't mean it becomes suddenly a whole lot worse. If that was the case, why bother with creatures at all?
Well, when you play control, then that is a factor. But, yes, in every other case, who cares if it can be removed? The only reason control decks play things like Paladin en-vec and Voice of All is because they have very few threats and need to keep them alive, also it make creature removal a dead card. Voice of All turns Flametongue Kavu into suicidal crap b/c he can only target his own creatures...:tongue3:
Couln't have said it better myself.8^)
In the late game(which most standard games gave) it is just crap.:embarrass:
Agreed, especially from an aggressive standpoint. I would consider this crap in any non T2 or block formatt. It should have been four mana with the drawback. But it is a good standard/block card. Still, in newer environments, It can be seething songed into play and then hit you opponent for 6 before they can remove him(haste). Then, they might hit you for six. Remember though, that if both players take 6, who will win, the burn deck or the non-burn deck?
Agreed, and if you think about it, science says that through enough time and randomness, life began. Whether God played a role in that randomn chance doesn't really change anything else about science from then on.
Right on! That is about what I was arguing before. Conceptually the birds are perfect. The text word "flying" seems a bit off for green, but it is needed to support the concept of birds in nature(a green, white, or blue thing).
As for the Jitte, that is the Jitte's fault not the bird, should we ban islands because of mana drain?
Long live Birds of Paradise!!!:p
MaRo has feelings!???:confused3: :confused3: :confused3:
Thats the funniest thig I've heard today!:rofl:
Yeah, if there is any reason to murder the birds, it would have to be the new color wheel. Still, conceptually they fit green. I mean a birds from a forest paradise are not green? You mean there no birds in the forest we love to play and tap? Darkness is conceptually black as well (emerce the area in darkness so nobody can see anything).
R&D is too concerned with the text of the card than idea when it comes to the color wheel recently.
Curse you color wheel, why can't we go back to blue burn, green flying, and red card advantage, why...oh WHY!!!:crying: :crying::swear: :crying::swear:
As for the churches, you are from Malaysia I see, well then compared to your country (or almost any other country..), I believe that the church here does have quite a good chunk of sway.
:fingers:
:embarrass::embarrass:
Precons are not to complicated, although all of Magic is(off course new pre-made decks only scrap the surface).
All of these flashy Ravnica girls are quite showy...very PG...:eek:
NOTE: when I typed in s.l.u.t.y, it appeared as ****y. Must have been censorship...
I have to come clean, I traded one of my three to a freind. now, I just don't feel the same anymore...:crying:
Now, we're talkin!:) 8^)
Kamigawa relativity, well I guess shock is worth $3 then.:winky:
Seems fair two me, but WW is a bit harsh without guildmana in a color pair orientaded set.
Well, when you play control, then that is a factor. But, yes, in every other case, who cares if it can be removed? The only reason control decks play things like Paladin en-vec and Voice of All is because they have very few threats and need to keep them alive, also it make creature removal a dead card. Voice of All turns Flametongue Kavu into suicidal crap b/c he can only target his own creatures...:tongue3: